Speculation: Roster Building Thread : Part XV (Light em up!)

[RangerBoy]

Where the hell can we watch msg now that it’s been removed from optimum?

There bullshit Gotham app is $360 a year lol.

Fubu I just want the knicks and rangers but have to pay for an entire subscription that’s well over $100.

This is gross. I’m about to not watch or care about my favorite team and franchise over my entire life bc of both greedy corporations.

$30 per month. October to April. Only the first round of the NHL playoffs will be on MSG. That will not be an issue this season. ESPN and TNT don't black out the NBA playoff games if the games are on MSG. 1st/2nd round round are on the RSN's in the NBA.

Altice/Optimum is hemorrhaging subscribers every year. Video and broadband.

Dolan and the Yankees/Nets probably want people to purchase the app and pay them directly instead of going through Infinity or Optimum. I read Optimum was paying MSG $10 for every sub. They want more now.

The RSN model is over. Streaming is the new marketplace. The Gotham app has a one minute delay. MSG+ didn't have the one minute delay. Fix it.

 

[GAGLine]

Where the hell can we watch msg now that it’s been removed from optimum?

There bullshit Gotham app is $360 a year lol.

Fubu I just want the knicks and rangers but have to pay for an entire subscription that’s well over $100.

This is gross. I’m about to not watch or care about my favorite team and franchise over my entire life bc of both greedy corporations.

I didn't even know this was happening. I got a text from Optimum this morning about it. Such bullshit.

Will games on the MSG app still be blacked out on ESPN+? I'm guessing they will.

I'm officially done with Optimum. f*** them. As soon as the WJC is over, I'm getting rid of it. And f*** MSG too. I'm not paying for the app. If they want to f*** around, they will find out how many people will stop giving them money to watch this shitty team.

 

[duhmetreE]

I don’t get the obsession with Pettersson.

He’s a phenomenal talent but I just don’t think he’s someone you win a cup with. I’d take JTM over him every time

We desperately need our Messier. Not another Zibs

 

[haohmaru]

I'm out of state for about the last 11 years but I'm looking at this and.... man, $30/mo. for the Gotham App? Seriously? I can get Disney/Hulu/ESPN+ for $16.99 combined and the Gotham App is almost double that? No thanks.

 

[Shadowtron]

I didn't even know this was happening. I got a text from Optimum this morning about it. Such bullshit.

Will games on the MSG app still be blacked out on ESPN+? I'm guessing they will.

I'm officially done with Optimum. f*** them. As soon as the WJC is over, I'm getting rid of it. And f*** MSG too. I'm not paying for the app. If they want to f*** around, they will find out how many people will stop giving them money to watch this shitty team.

Xfinity did the same to me about 4-5 seasons ago. I listen to them on iHeart radio or watch whenever they’re streaming on Max. Ridiculous isn’t it? And the MSG app is outrageously overpriced.

 

[McRanger92]

I don’t get the obsession with Pettersson.

He’s a phenomenal talent but I just don’t think he’s someone you win a cup with. I’d take JTM over him every time

We desperately need our Messier. Not another Zibs

RB's going to come after you for mentioning JT and Messier in the same sentence.

 

[Crease]

The Rangers need a Tkachuk. They will overpay for a Pettersson. This is the NYR we're talking about.

 

[Mike in Houston]

A lot of the shoulder stuff have moved to the app.

Like what?

 

[Tob]

I don't believe that we will have to take nothing back for Zibanejad, honestly I think teams will look at him as a guy who needs a fresh start and it's a gamble but if a team believes that then it comes down to where can you find a 1b center in this league for a reasonable trade price. Think of teams without a shooter on the pp, bad pk, etc. A team like Anaheim, San Jose maybe where they are trying to gain some traction to move their rebuilds ahead. Having said that, I want a new GM, the fact we gave away Kakko for less skilled unsigned trouba is proof this guy is over his head.

Ive been adamant about positive value for Trouba and even neutral value for Goodrow. Useful grit players on short contracts that had a purpose on a desperate team. Zibanejad however is the kind of soft low T player no GM will take at his term remaining and dime in a dozen skill level someone could pay $6M 3 years on the market for.

 

[will1066]

Like what?

I believe all of the beginnings episodes are there, plus a show called 50ish Things About 'Player', another show called My First, which featured Laf. There's also Player's Playbook and Club 30, which is the Hank podcast.

 

[Profet]

I didn't even know this was happening. I got a text from Optimum this morning about it. Such bullshit.

Will games on the MSG app still be blacked out on ESPN+? I'm guessing they will.

I'm officially done with Optimum. f*** them. As soon as the WJC is over, I'm getting rid of it. And f*** MSG too. I'm not paying for the app. If they want to f*** around, they will find out how many people will stop giving them money to watch this shitty team.

The service is such shit...

Every time I log in to a device it kicks out all other sessions.

If I'm working late and decide to stream the game from my work computer browser? Then the next time I fire up the app on my GoogleTV I have to do their whole sign in process again... which is super annoying as they don't have a "sign in on the web" option and I have to enter my entire username and password with arrow keys and an on-screen keyboard.

THAT is the thing that kills me. All these dinky services that don't have the development bandwidth to create usable apps.

I LOVE when they play on Max because it is a no hassle experience.

The Gotham app is armature hour.

- A software engineer

 

[mas0764]

I have a horrible feeling they are going to move Trocheck

If we win the value exchange, isn’t that a good thing? The dude is 31 and we aren’t winning this year anyway. Why are we holding on to him?

 

[Mike in Houston]

I don’t get the obsession with Pettersson.

He’s a phenomenal talent but I just don’t think he’s someone you win a cup with. I’d take JTM over him every time

We desperately need our Messier. Not another Zibs

The fanbase always covets players they don't have and has an odd obsession with kids.

 

[Profet]

If we win the value exchange, isn’t that a good thing? The dude is 31 and we aren’t winning this year anyway. Why are we holding on to him?

The only reason to keep a guy like Trocheck is for the culture.

If Trocheck is the type of personality you want other to emulate, you keep him.

 

[NYR94]

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

The Rangers need a Tkachuk. They will overpay for a Pettersson. This is the NYR we're talking about.

I don’t think they will. They’re gonna shift so hard away from pure skill and go for 2 way grit and characturrrr

 

[Mike in Houston]

 

[NickyFotiu]

The thing with KAM…. I want to see him without Housley and our current Chinese fire drill coverage. Please just put him back with Fox

Still think he’s a top4LHD for the next decade+. Hasn’t peaked yet and has a lot of potential

Our left side is so bad. Unless it’s a player like MacTavish coming our way, I hold on to KAM

KAM has been pretty bad this season but he is 1 of our very few guys with size, speed, and youth. Makes it scary to think of moving him. Hopefully he bounces back. Its a mental thing for him. The physical skills are there.

 

[TGWL]

Where the hell can we watch msg now that it’s been removed from optimum?

There bullshit Gotham app is $360 a year lol.

Fubu I just want the knicks and rangers but have to pay for an entire subscription that’s well over $100.

This is gross. I’m about to not watch or care about my favorite team and franchise over my entire life bc of both greedy corporations.

Contact me and I can give you some options.

 

[Kocur Dill]

You wanna get the blood pumping? Igor+Miller for Pettersson is a way for both teams to fire early on NMCs. Pretty sure money is close.

Igor+Miller to SJ for Askarov+Dickinson?

 

[GAGLine]

He needs a complicated statistical model to tell him the team that is 5th to last in the league, and 4-15 in its last 19 games, is a longshot to make the playoffs?

Thanks, Einstein.

 

[NYR94]

He needs a complicated statistical model to tell him the team that is 5th to last in the league, and 4-15 in its last 19 games, is a longshot to make the playoffs?

Thanks, Einstein.

yeah my point was more how big the falloff is from Fox to the other D but i dont know how to share just that reply without the stuff about the standings

 

[TGWL]

KAM has been pretty bad this season but he is 1 of our very few guys with size, speed, and youth. Makes it scary to think of moving him. Hopefully he bounces back. Its a mental thing for him. The physical skills are there.

I'm not sure what he's bouncing back to. Besides point productions, everything seems pretty similar for him. Zone % in 3 straight seasons have basically been the same.

I don't think Miller has ever really been that good for us. For the most part it feels Miller is playing the same game, but now every mistake ends up in our net, rather than turning a blind eye to those mistakes when they didn't end up in our net. I actually think he's focusing more on defense and not jumping into the play or pinching at much, but that might be worse for him.

 

[Levitate]

$30 per month. October to April. Only the first round of the NHL playoffs will be on MSG. That will not be an issue this season. ESPN and TNT don't black out the NBA playoff games if the games are on MSG. 1st/2nd round round are on the RSN's in the NBA.

Altice/Optimum is hemorrhaging subscribers every year. Video and broadband.

Dolan and the Yankees/Nets probably want people to purchase the app and pay them directly instead of going through Infinity or Optimum. I read Optimum was paying MSG $10 for every sub. They want more now.

The RSN model is over. Streaming is the new marketplace. The Gotham app has a one minute delay. MSG+ didn't have the one minute delay. Fix

 

[RangerBoy]

Would Florida want to re-acquire Trocheck? Bennett is a group III this summer. I am not sure how much money Bennett wants in his next contract. He hasn’t signed an extension in Florida. They can't keep everyone. Zito is part of the Team USA management team with Guerin, Drury and Fitzgerald. Trocheck is signed for four more seasons at a good number. $5.625M. Tallon traded Trocheck to Carolina. Trocheck slides into their 2nd line role next season and he is valuable contributor this season. EF did say teams will climb buildings for Trocheck. NYC has a few newer very tall buildings like the Freedom Tower and Hudson Yards buildings. The Rangers should get a a really good return. Not futures based. Trocheck has the NMC this season and a 12 team NTC in July. He would probably waive for FLA. That team has become a destination for players.

Lundell would be perfect for the Rangers. A good two-way center. Still young 23. Signed for five more seasons at $5M AAV. The Rangers need a center like Lundell. Florida has those two-way centers. TB had Cirelli and Gourde. Vegas has Wild Bill.

Florida needs help on D. They lost Montour and OEL in the summer. UV18 seems like a guy they would like. His cap number is low. $1.1M. Florida takes him and turns him into a competent D. He is arb eligible in July.

Florida acquires Trocheck and UV18. The Rangers acquire Lundell and he fits perfectly into the group. Other smaller pieces are add on each side.

The Athletic did a feature on the top front offices in all four professional sports. Zito and Florida was mentioned as one of the top groups in pro sports. Zito was part of the group which picked Trocheck for the 4 Nations team.