Speculation: Roster Building Thread : Part XV (Light em up!)

[will1066]

Ah. Well that makes sense then!

You owe the franchise an apology for calling it a clown.

 

[LokiDog]

I bet y’all we move Zib and retain no more than 1M, if anything and people will end up being surprised. I’m not saying we’ll get a good return, but even though the term is longer, I imagine it will be similar to the Trouba deal. Full pop for a negligible return. Never be surprised when NHL GMs are willing to gamble on a player needing a change to think they can get a 1C/high end 2C for a similar return to Vaakanainen and a 4th. If reports he’s willing to waive are true, I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s moved more easily than people expect. Some GM will think that he’s still a point per game play driver who just needs a shakeup and take a shot on a low cost of acquisition. Almost guarantee.

 

[McRanger92]

I bet y’all we move Zib and retain no more than 1M, if anything and people will end up being surprised. I’m not saying we’ll get a good return, but even though the term is longer, I imagine it will be similar to the Trouba deal. Full pop for a negligible return. Never be surprised when NHL GMs are willing to gamble on a player needing a change to think they can get a 1C/high end 2C for a similar return to Vaakanainen and a 4th. If reports he’s willing to waive are true, I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s moved more easily than people expect. Some GM will think that he’s still a point per game play driver who just needs a shakeup and take a shot on a low cost of acquisition. Almost guarantee.

Probably correct. I will believe he will waive when he's gone and not a moment sooner.

 

[Chalfdiggity3]

Where the hell can we watch msg now that it’s been removed from optimum?

There bullshit Gotham app is $360 a year lol.

Fubu I just want the knicks and rangers but have to pay for an entire subscription that’s well over $100.

This is gross. I’m about to not watch or care about my favorite team and franchise over my entire life bc of both greedy corporations.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

I don't believe that we will have to take nothing back for Zibanejad, honestly I think teams will look at him as a guy who needs a fresh start and it's a gamble but if a team believes that then it comes down to where can you find a 1b center in this league for a reasonable trade price. Think of teams without a shooter on the pp, bad pk, etc. A team like Anaheim, San Jose maybe where they are trying to gain some traction to move their rebuilds ahead. Having said that, I want a new GM, the fact we gave away Kakko for less skilled unsigned trouba is proof this guy is over his head.

 

[Crease]

Where the hell can we watch msg now that it’s been removed from optimum?

There bullshit Gotham app is $360 a year lol.

Fubu I just want the knicks and rangers but have to pay for an entire subscription that’s well over $100.

This is gross. I’m about to not watch or care about my favorite team and franchise over my entire life bc of both greedy corporations.

DirectTV still has MSG. But I think it’s just a matter of time before MSG goes full exclusive on the Gotham app.

 

[Mr Mxmzptlk]

You owe the franchise an apology for calling it a clown.

The franchise? What about those poor clowns he slandered!!!??????

 

[bernmeister]

I bet y’all we move Zib and retain no more than 1M, if anything and people will end up being surprised. I’m not saying we’ll get a good return, but even though the term is longer, I imagine it will be similar to the Trouba deal. Full pop for a negligible return. Never be surprised when NHL GMs are willing to gamble on a player needing a change to think they can get a 1C/high end 2C for a similar return to Vaakanainen and a 4th. If reports he’s willing to waive are true, I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s moved more easily than people expect. Some GM will think that he’s still a point per game play driver who just needs a shakeup and take a shot on a low cost of acquisition. Almost guarantee.

I do not share your optimism on this as to min retain only necessary.
I believe when he waives -- ? is where -- he is moveable enuf at max retained, 8.5 -> 4.25.
He should be super doable in trade if a 3rd team [ANA?] retains, cost of which, using the Marleau standard is x for 1 yr per of unused or diminished service, X being dependent on how much further retained -> how much Zib gets paid.
In this instance, I believe that is a rate of 4 5ths for the remaining seasons and something less for this year = half season.
A bargain if it gets him off this team.
I expect VAN winds up w/him
tho outside chance Leafs may gamble if Matthews is sitting extensively/completely

Where the hell can we watch msg now that it’s been removed from optimum?

There bullshit Gotham app is $360 a year lol.

Fubu I just want the knicks and rangers but have to pay for an entire subscription that’s well over $100.

This is gross. I’m about to not watch or care about my favorite team and franchise over my entire life bc of both greedy corporations.

You can't expect it for free
The more it is available, the more likelihood you get competition which at least moderates prices.
Providers [Spectrum, etc] get charged, that gets passed on to consumers.

Best hope is Gotham mushrooms while providers get volume discounts, and with huge Gotham base increased, + possibility of subscribers costs reduced by direct goodwill contributions by conditional advertisers targeted to reduce subscription cost, Dolan will agree at a certain pt value of goodwill >> extra cash

you get what you pay for
you get what you don't pay for

 

[Mike in Houston]

MSG used to be so great. Of course you got the live games, but their shoulder programming was great. Sportsdesk. Hockey Night In NY. The Rangers coaches shows that ended when Gallant got the job. MSG Vault. The high school stuff.

 

[mas0764]

I told all of you guys kakko is easily a 30/30 guy somewhere else. Maybe we should have f***ing played him…

We need to clean out the front office and prospect development staff.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

We need to clean out the front office and prospect development staff.

They need to stop chasing high priced talent when they’re trying to rebuild.

 

[mas0764]

You wanna get the blood pumping? Igor+Miller for Pettersson is a way for both teams to fire early on NMCs. Pretty sure money is close.

I’d do it

 

[alkurtz]

I think many of you are looking at things through the lens of wishful thinking. There isn't a team or front office around the league that does not scout and evaluate intensively. They see exactly what we see with Zibanajad. I don't think they say that this is a player that needs a new start. They see a player who has aged prematurely and will likely not improve but will continue to worsen. If I were any other GM I would not gamble on him under any circumstances no matter what the deal was.

 

[mas0764]

They need to stop chasing high priced talent when they’re trying to rebuild.

Would you deal our top 5 pick for Pettersson?

 

[jerseyjinx94]

Petterson is another soft player who can’t perform in the playoffs signed long term. Why are we trying to get him

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Would you deal our top 5 pick for Pettersson?

I would have a year ago.

I don’t want anything to do with the player now. Too many red flags.

 

[B17 Apricots]

MSG used to be so great. Of course you got the live games, but their shoulder programming was great. Sportsdesk. Hockey Night In NY. The Rangers coaches shows that ended when Gallant got the job. MSG Vault. The high school stuff.

Yep, it's trash now. But at least we get that dumbshit sports betting show with that jerk off who yells annoying shit every other commercial. Great stuff.

 

[will1066]

MSG used to be so great. Of course you got the live games, but their shoulder programming was great. Sportsdesk. Hockey Night In NY. The Rangers coaches shows that ended when Gallant got the job. MSG Vault. The high school stuff.

A lot of the shoulder stuff have moved to the app.

 

[kovazub94]

Yep, it's trash now. But at least we get that dumbshit sports betting show with that jerk off who yells annoying shit every other commercial. Great stuff.

Does others also have technical issues with Gotham app? During stream there’s a regular - 4-5 moments during a single period when there’s an interruption for about a second.

Separate issue but for the amount of money they charge for subscription - rev and ff should be an option.

 

[Ruggs225]

Ah. Well that makes sense then!

I honestly wouldn't call him up to this shitshow anyway. There is no defense in front of goalies.

 

[RangerBoy]

Petterson is another soft player who can’t perform in the playoffs signed long term. Why are we trying to get him

It's the Rangers way. One dimensional soft players. $11.6M. 7 more seasons.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

It's the Rangers way. One dimensional soft players. $11.6M. 7 more seasons.

Pettersson is an excellent defensive player fwiw.

The drama that is surrounding him right now is a different flavor of what’s going on here and he Panarin’d out during their run last year. That’s the caution here, not being a 1 dimensional player because that isn’t true.

 

[Synergy27]

Hey it’s 2025. I woke up today and I’m still a Ranger fan for some reason. Life is weird.

 

[cheech70]

Only the 4th try Tankathon

Pick	Team	GP	Record	Pts	PT%	RW	Streak	L10	Odds	#1 OVR
1 4	NY Rangers	36	16-19-1	33	.458	16	Lost 4	2-8-0	8.5%	8.5%
2 1	Nashville	38	11-20-7	29	.382	9	Lost 3	4-5-1	11.5%	11.5%
3 2	Chicago	38	12-24-2	26	.342	10	Lost 5	3-7-0	18.5%	25.5%
4 2	San Jose	40	11-23-6	28	.350	7	Lost 8	1-8-1	13.5%	13.5

 

[Jauffre]

Only the 4th try Tankathon

Pick	Team	GP	Record	Pts	PT%	RW	Streak	L10	Odds	#1 OVR
1 4	NY Rangers	36	16-19-1	33	.458	16	Lost 4	2-8-0	8.5%	8.5%
2 1	Nashville	38	11-20-7	29	.382	9	Lost 3	4-5-1	11.5%	11.5%
3 2	Chicago	38	12-24-2	26	.342	10	Lost 5	3-7-0	18.5%	25.5%
4 2	San Jose	40	11-23-6	28	.350	7	Lost 8	1-8-1	13.5%	13.5

first try for me.