Speculation: Roster Building Thread : Part XV (Light em up!)

[RangerBoy]

Larry must be loving the clicks all this drama is getting him

Writing dramatic ass pieces like this

Larry is right. These guys are a joke. Seismic changes.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Nothing Brooks said was wrong.

Nothing about that article was dramatic or over the top.

 

[RangerBoy]

Larry went full scorched earth. OMG this is glorious!

Gotta say it feels like he's pulled some of this right from these pages. Is @LokiDog Larry Brooks?

I have a cousin. She is divorced. Two kids. Took them to the Kings game. $900. Tickets. Sweaters. The Rangers were ass. They don't care about the paying customers. Brooks mentioned that in the column.

Rangers have quit on Peter Laviolette — and it will eventually cost him his job​

Ownership and management had no stomach for this. The hierarchy was not going to allow this flawed core to fire another head coach less than two years after beseeching GM Chris Drury to dismiss Gerard Gallant in May of 2023, 11 months after going to the conference final.

But that’s what this splintered core has effectively done even if Peter Laviolette remains behind the Rangers bench much like a broken general pleading with his troops not to desert the battlefield. It is only a matter of time, whether it is this week, next month or the moment the season ends.

This is like the old movie plot in which a man has been poisoned and knows he will die in 24 hours but takes the time left to track down his murderer. But in this case, it does not take nearly that long to identify the culprit.

It’s the core.

Now the splintered core.

The Rangers have quit on their coach, they have quit on the organization, they have quit on themselves, they have quit on each other, they have quit on the fans who pay top dollar to fill the Garden and they have quit on New York.

This is worse than the Dark Ages of 1997 through 2004 in which mercenaries filled the Ranger$ roster and missed the playoffs seven straight seasons. I have been watching the Rangers for nearly 70 years, I was in the side balcony while the team was an Original Six laughingstock and I was in the blue seats when it all came tumbling down for Emile in 1975-76, but I don’t know if I have seen anything quite like this ongoing disgrace to the sweater.

Laviolette and his staff have done themselves no favors. The Rangers have no structure. They have not defended from Game 1. There is no coherent way out of the defensive zone. There is no forecheck. The neutral zone has become a sieve. The same mistakes are committed over and over again. There have been few adjustments. There has been no accountability.

This last-place team does not present a single redeeming quality. They lack self-belief. They do not compete. At this point, there is not a single player who is playing well. This has become an unhealthy environment for the kids who are supposed to be learning how to conduct themselves.

Aww, are the core’s feelings hurt? In nearly a half-century in this business, I have never heard more about feelings than I have the last three months.
Barclay Goodrow’s feelings were hurt. Jacob Trouba’s feelings were hurt. Their friends’ feelings were hurt. Boo hoo. Funny, none of them have asked to be traded. I guess they just thought they were just going to fire another coach or maybe this time get the GM.

This is not about saving this season. Yesterday’s not only gone, so is tomorrow. This is about restoring a modicum of credibility to the operation. This is about reapplying a standard so that Drury and the hierarchy have the proper intelligence to make personnel decisions that will impact the next decade.
Ownership proved in 2018 that the goal is not to simply scrape into the playoffs for a couple of postseason home games but to win the Stanley Cup. The Rangers will take a step back in order to take two steps forward.

Drury has made his share of mistakes. The Substack message after which the team has rolled into a fetal position was a mistake, but the team had just had consecutive no-show first periods and had already been outclassed decisively by Washington, Winnipeg and had been humiliated at home by Buffalo. Toxicity had already been in the air for weeks.

The GM’s biggest mistake, however, was not recognizing that bringing Trouba back into the room after the events of the summer — documented accurately in this space in July and in September — would prove destructive.

Power against power, Trouba won but what are his winnings? He will be remembered as the worst captain in the history of the franchise, he has been bounced across the country, separated from his family, could be moved again at the deadline and maybe again over the summer. Or maybe there will be a buyout. A more Pyrrhic victory has never been achieved.

There are seismic decisions ahead. The core as we know it is finished. But they got themselves one more one pelt, didn’t they?

Fait accompli.

The 2024-25 Rangers’ only accomplishment.

The Trouba's are taking Brooks off their Christmas card list.

 

[mike14]

Nothing Brooks said was wrong.

Nothing about that article was dramatic or over the top.

It was also just fluff. It's great that he has an outlet to rant through (the ones on here are better), but it's slightly concerning that people choose to pay to read it.

 

[Boris Zubov]

I have a cousin. She is divorced. Two kids. Took them to the Kings game. $900. Tickets. Sweaters. The Rangers were ass. They don't care about the paying customers. Brooks mentioned that in the column.

The Trouba's are taking Brooks off their Christmas card list.

This started off like a bad country song. Or every country song.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

It was also just fluff. It's great that he has an outlet to rant through (the ones on here are better), but it's slightly concerning that people choose to pay to read it.

Well what ever the scathing equivalent of fluff is.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

Larry is right. These guys are a joke. Seismic changes.

Sure, the team needs to be changed. The GM needs to as well though

 

[Boris Zubov]

It was also just fluff. It's great that he has an outlet to rant through (the ones on here are better), but it's slightly concerning that people choose to pay to read it.

Fluff? He pulled no punches & every point he made was spot on.

 

[zlev]

Larry still hasn't discovered the actual problem: the team isn't any good. they can try all they want, they just blow. it's a really bad team that is performing like one.

 

[toNYRico]

I’ve wondered if NYR would consider asking Brassard to join the org in a player development role. They need to do everything in their power to make sure Perreault hits his ceiling.

 

[will1066]

Fluff? He pulled no punches & every point he made was spot on.

Some people will never like Will Borgen.

Some people will never like Larry Brooks.

And that's alright.

 

[Boris Zubov]

Some people will never like Will Borgen.

Some people will never like Larry Brooks.

And that's alright.

More country lyrics?

 

[RangerBoy]

This started off like a bad country song. Or every country song.

George Strait song. All my exes live in Texas and that's why I reside in Tennessee.

Sure, the team needs to be changed. The GM needs to as well though

The players can go first.

 

[bleedblue94]

you realize fox is 26?

Perfect!

 

[ArPanet]

More country lyrics?

It was almost an adaptation of "Chevy Van".

 

[Boris Zubov]

It was almost an adaptation of "Chevy Van".

I'm embarrassed to admit that I'm old enough to understand that reference.

 

[bleedblue94]

Larry must be loving the clicks all this drama is getting him

Writing dramatic ass pieces like this

He's in the Hall of Fame, he literally has no need for clicks at this point, he just does his job and he actually does it pretty damn well. It's not his fault that the team is giving him endless content right now

 

[Kovalev27]

Larry still hasn't discovered the actual problem: the team isn't any good. they can try all they want, they just blow. it's a really bad team that is performing like one.

This just isn’t accurate. This team just went to the conference finals twice in 3 years. The Sabres aren’t good the senators aren’t good the penguins islanders aren’t good. This group of players is very good. But they’re lazy and they need a real coach. They have had 2 coaches that are known as short term motivators but not great coaches. And that’s exactly what they did. Drury hasn’t hired a Jon Cooper or a Rod Brindamour. He’s needed a Great coach for this group of babies. Talented but babies. Maybe that’s Quennville. A guy that might actually respect enough to play for

 

[Rangers in 7]

Rangers have quit on Peter Laviolette — and it will eventually cost him his job​

Ownership and management had no stomach for this. The hierarchy was not going to allow this flawed core to fire another head coach less than two years after beseeching GM Chris Drury to dismiss Gerard Gallant in May of 2023, 11 months after going to the conference final.

But that’s what this splintered core has effectively done even if Peter Laviolette remains behind the Rangers bench much like a broken general pleading with his troops not to desert the battlefield. It is only a matter of time, whether it is this week, next month or the moment the season ends.

This is like the old movie plot in which a man has been poisoned and knows he will die in 24 hours but takes the time left to track down his murderer. But in this case, it does not take nearly that long to identify the culprit.

It’s the core.

Now the splintered core.

The Rangers have quit on their coach, they have quit on the organization, they have quit on themselves, they have quit on each other, they have quit on the fans who pay top dollar to fill the Garden and they have quit on New York.

This is worse than the Dark Ages of 1997 through 2004 in which mercenaries filled the Ranger$ roster and missed the playoffs seven straight seasons. I have been watching the Rangers for nearly 70 years, I was in the side balcony while the team was an Original Six laughingstock and I was in the blue seats when it all came tumbling down for Emile in 1975-76, but I don’t know if I have seen anything quite like this ongoing disgrace to the sweater.

Laviolette and his staff have done themselves no favors. The Rangers have no structure. They have not defended from Game 1. There is no coherent way out of the defensive zone. There is no forecheck. The neutral zone has become a sieve. The same mistakes are committed over and over again. There have been few adjustments. There has been no accountability.

This last-place team does not present a single redeeming quality. They lack self-belief. They do not compete. At this point, there is not a single player who is playing well. This has become an unhealthy environment for the kids who are supposed to be learning how to conduct themselves.

Aww, are the core’s feelings hurt? In nearly a half-century in this business, I have never heard more about feelings than I have the last three months.
Barclay Goodrow’s feelings were hurt. Jacob Trouba’s feelings were hurt. Their friends’ feelings were hurt. Boo hoo. Funny, none of them have asked to be traded. I guess they just thought they were just going to fire another coach or maybe this time get the GM.

This is not about saving this season. Yesterday’s not only gone, so is tomorrow. This is about restoring a modicum of credibility to the operation. This is about reapplying a standard so that Drury and the hierarchy have the proper intelligence to make personnel decisions that will impact the next decade.
Ownership proved in 2018 that the goal is not to simply scrape into the playoffs for a couple of postseason home games but to win the Stanley Cup. The Rangers will take a step back in order to take two steps forward.

Drury has made his share of mistakes. The Substack message after which the team has rolled into a fetal position was a mistake, but the team had just had consecutive no-show first periods and had already been outclassed decisively by Washington, Winnipeg and had been humiliated at home by Buffalo. Toxicity had already been in the air for weeks.

The GM’s biggest mistake, however, was not recognizing that bringing Trouba back into the room after the events of the summer — documented accurately in this space in July and in September — would prove destructive.

Power against power, Trouba won but what are his winnings? He will be remembered as the worst captain in the history of the franchise, he has been bounced across the country, separated from his family, could be moved again at the deadline and maybe again over the summer. Or maybe there will be a buyout. A more Pyrrhic victory has never been achieved.

There are seismic decisions ahead. The core as we know it is finished. But they got themselves one more one pelt, didn’t they?

Fait accompli.

The 2024-25 Rangers’ only accomplishment.

I hate brooks, but he’s f***ing spot on.

 

[bleedblue94]

Rangers have quit on Peter Laviolette — and it will eventually cost him his job​

Ownership and management had no stomach for this. The hierarchy was not going to allow this flawed core to fire another head coach less than two years after beseeching GM Chris Drury to dismiss Gerard Gallant in May of 2023, 11 months after going to the conference final.

But that’s what this splintered core has effectively done even if Peter Laviolette remains behind the Rangers bench much like a broken general pleading with his troops not to desert the battlefield. It is only a matter of time, whether it is this week, next month or the moment the season ends.

This is like the old movie plot in which a man has been poisoned and knows he will die in 24 hours but takes the time left to track down his murderer. But in this case, it does not take nearly that long to identify the culprit.

It’s the core.

Now the splintered core.

The Rangers have quit on their coach, they have quit on the organization, they have quit on themselves, they have quit on each other, they have quit on the fans who pay top dollar to fill the Garden and they have quit on New York.

This is worse than the Dark Ages of 1997 through 2004 in which mercenaries filled the Ranger$ roster and missed the playoffs seven straight seasons. I have been watching the Rangers for nearly 70 years, I was in the side balcony while the team was an Original Six laughingstock and I was in the blue seats when it all came tumbling down for Emile in 1975-76, but I don’t know if I have seen anything quite like this ongoing disgrace to the sweater.

Laviolette and his staff have done themselves no favors. The Rangers have no structure. They have not defended from Game 1. There is no coherent way out of the defensive zone. There is no forecheck. The neutral zone has become a sieve. The same mistakes are committed over and over again. There have been few adjustments. There has been no accountability.

This last-place team does not present a single redeeming quality. They lack self-belief. They do not compete. At this point, there is not a single player who is playing well. This has become an unhealthy environment for the kids who are supposed to be learning how to conduct themselves.

Aww, are the core’s feelings hurt? In nearly a half-century in this business, I have never heard more about feelings than I have the last three months.
Barclay Goodrow’s feelings were hurt. Jacob Trouba’s feelings were hurt. Their friends’ feelings were hurt. Boo hoo. Funny, none of them have asked to be traded. I guess they just thought they were just going to fire another coach or maybe this time get the GM.

This is not about saving this season. Yesterday’s not only gone, so is tomorrow. This is about restoring a modicum of credibility to the operation. This is about reapplying a standard so that Drury and the hierarchy have the proper intelligence to make personnel decisions that will impact the next decade.
Ownership proved in 2018 that the goal is not to simply scrape into the playoffs for a couple of postseason home games but to win the Stanley Cup. The Rangers will take a step back in order to take two steps forward.

Drury has made his share of mistakes. The Substack message after which the team has rolled into a fetal position was a mistake, but the team had just had consecutive no-show first periods and had already been outclassed decisively by Washington, Winnipeg and had been humiliated at home by Buffalo. Toxicity had already been in the air for weeks.

The GM’s biggest mistake, however, was not recognizing that bringing Trouba back into the room after the events of the summer — documented accurately in this space in July and in September — would prove destructive.

Power against power, Trouba won but what are his winnings? He will be remembered as the worst captain in the history of the franchise, he has been bounced across the country, separated from his family, could be moved again at the deadline and maybe again over the summer. Or maybe there will be a buyout. A more Pyrrhic victory has never been achieved.

There are seismic decisions ahead. The core as we know it is finished. But they got themselves one more one pelt, didn’t they?

Fait accompli.

The 2024-25 Rangers’ only accomplishment.

Larry nailed it. He's been around so long that he doesn't need to tiptoe this crap anymore like some of the other beat writers have to. Vince in particular does a really good job and he kept going to the players trying to side with them as if all of this was Drury's fault and they had no role to play in this. With the information that I had months ago I knew that there was going to be a big problem coming and this is why prior to Thanksgiving I said that there was going to be a war brewing. This is also why I've defended the idea of not firing the coach or the GM right now because if you do either one you essentially are giving in to the players. I think the next two months are going to be an absolute circus. I'm almost wondering if they keep the coach in place through the trade deadline, trade-off a bunch of dead weight, and then relieve Lavy and let Muse run the team for the rest of the year since he's a development guy, and then they do a full reassessment during the summer. The one thing that encourages me in this article is the fact that Brooks mentioned that the ownership is willing to take a step backwards in order to go forward. He did not reference that solely in the past tense.

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

As bad as it is right now this actually is a blessing in disguise

They likely would’ve been buyers at the deadline and fizzled out in the first or second round anyway.

Might as well start the next retool/rebuild asap and not waste another season with false hopes

 

[bleedblue94]

Whatever you think of Drury, his best quality at this moment is his overwhelming combination of arrogance and stubbornness. A lot of GMS would have caved to the players with what's going on. Has this turn in your circus, absolutely. But in an organization the general manager and the president are in charge. With the rangers, the players think they run the show and that the coach is just there to basically help them out. Unless Dolan steps in to can Drury it looks like this is the only way to eradicate the rotten core that's here even if it has been a circus. If some of these guys are still here after the trade deadline then we know there was no plan, but for all we know all the cap space that was cleared this year might be used to facilitate trades to help get some of these guys out of here where the team is taking back a whole bunch of garbage one-year contracts to help some contenders be able to improve their roster. The next 2 to 6 months is going to be fascinating because it's basically going to dictate what the next half decade is going to look like for this organization.

 

[Greschner4]

"Ownership and management had no stomach for this. The hierarchy was not going to allow this flawed core to fire another head coach less than two years after beseeching GM Chris Drury to dismiss Gerard Gallant in May of 2023, 11 months after going to the conference final."

The Original Sin was allowing this group of loser snowflakes to fire Gallant after they quit on him, each other, the sweater, the fans, and the city two games into the first round of the 2023 playoffs against the Devils.

 

[bleedblue94]

"Ownership and management had no stomach for this. The hierarchy was not going to allow this flawed core to fire another head coach less than two years after beseeching GM Chris Drury to dismiss Gerard Gallant in May of 2023, 11 months after going to the conference final."

The Original Sin was allowing this group of loser snowflakes to fire Gallant after they quit on him, each other, the sweater, the fans, and the city two games into the first round of the 2023 playoffs against the Devils.

The irony to all of this is that one of the reasons that Turk was fired was because the players claimed that they wanted more structure and more accountability. Fast forward a year and a half and it's comical watching those players spitting in the face of structure and accountability...

 

[n8]

Appreciate the homage, but remember, like Frodo bearing the ring, only bern can actually do/go authentic bern, full or otherwise. That said, give it a try but be careful.

Samwise did carry the ring momentarily and Frodo would not have made it to Mount Doom without him. Have you considered who your Samwise is?