Speculation: Roster Building thread: Part XIX (Thanks, Sam)

[EdJovanovski]

HIRE TORTS IMMEDIATELY

 

[Daves a mess]

People have interesting thories in their mind. Torts isnt scaring anyone older than 19. He became a lazy fraud imo.

NMC's are liquid courage. Especially on the Rangers.

 

[noncents]

Apparently Mike Russo who writes for the Wild for the Athletic says he thinks there's a better than 70% that Rossi gets traded this summer. You want to retool this team for a quick turnaround? That's the guy you go after.

lotta capspace. retained panarin? kreider?

lafreniere miller perreault
cuylle rossi zibanejad
kreider trocheck berard

 

[DanielBrassard]

Good. Hire Torts for GM and President too.

Comandante Torts.

If the Rangers hired Tortorella, Panarin is staying. I hope all the anti-Panarinites are willing to accommodate that.

 

[DanielBrassard]

Apparently Mike Russo who writes for the Wild for the Athletic says he thinks there's a better than 70% that Rossi gets traded this summer. You want to retool this team for a quick turnaround? That's the guy you go after.

Lafreniere for Rossi because Minnesota is stupid

 

[bl02]

lotta capspace. retained panarin? kreider?

lafreniere miller perreault
cuylle rossi zibanejad
kreider trocheck berard

i wouldn't mind it but if we don't have our pick next year very possibly that is a top 10 pick team.
That is the problem with the Miller trade. I was worried this would happen. Only smart thing to do is to let Pitt have this years pick. Otherwise there is gonna be a real dark cloud hanging over this organizations head next year.

 

[NickyFotiu]

NMC's are liquid courage. Especially on the Rangers.

They probably do play a role but hockey players like firm coaches as long as its genuine and fair. If they see a guy not running practices, often passing the buck, not taking any role/responsibility for the PP year after year after year they will only take him seriously for so long. Hockey players are some of the smartest athletes in the world. When Torts implies that McDavid doesn't play "the right way" they just laugh at him. Guys do not want to play for Torts not because he is firm but because he is a hypocrite imo.

 

[JohnC]

Yah let’s see how Sully fares when he doesn’t have two all timers as his 1-2 punch at center. Hard pass.

 

[eco's bones]

we should learn to be a better defensive team before we accommodate Panarin due to his offensive production. I dont dislike the guy personally and he was a good Ranger, but its over. We have to do something different even if it makes us worse, or more accurately imo, different.

Well if we go back to a zone defensive system we will be doing something significantly different. If we move out Kreider and Zibanejad other players will be moving into the top 6 and on to our 1st unit power play. So all that will be quite a bit different too. I don't think moving either of those two will necessarily significantly drop offensive production. I do think moving out Panarin will.

Moving out #'s 93 and 20 also means two big contracts off the books which will be more than enough.....maybe even too much because the cap floor rises every time the cap ceiling rises and the cap ceiling is going to be rising a lot in the next three years. If we don't have enough bigger contracts we're going to have to find some and if we've got a lot of ELC and second contract players they're not going to be making that much. So we can overspend on this guy or we can overspend on that guy but we're going to overspend on somebody or two. This in part is the reason a lot of teams are taking potential UFA's off the market. They know they'll be able to afford them and they know they're going to need them---not just for their play on the ice but for cap reasons. Once the cap stabilizes my guess is it will go back the other way that we're all more used to.

 

[haohmaru]

“injured” Kreider vs. Kings had 19:24 TOI. That’s a huge number for a winger.

Oh, and zero hits. And zero shots. Zero player.

 

[majordomo]

It's 2025. Nobody in the NHL was born before Madonna.

Who?

 

[Machinehead]

Who?

She's a shortstop from Seattle.

 

[majordomo]

Apparently Mike Russo who writes for the Wild for the Athletic says he thinks there's a better than 70% that Rossi gets traded this summer. You want to retool this team for a quick turnaround? That's the guy you go after.

There is no "quick turnaround" to fix this team.

 

[McRanger]

Never understood the obsession with Torts.

He holds players accountable and is a disciplinarian, which this team desperately needs, but he also manages to alienate or run out of town most of his teams talented players and is extremely hit or miss with younger players.

He is not exactly some huge winner either, guys won 4 playoff series in 20 years since he won the cup with Tampa.

 

[majordomo]

She's a shortstop from Seattle.

No wonder they suck.

 

[Machinehead]

Never understood the obsession with Torts.

He holds players accountable and is a disciplinarian, which this team desperately needs, but he also manages to alienate or run out of town most of his teams talented players and is extremely hit or miss with younger players.

He is not exactly some huge winner either, guys won 4 playoff series in 20 years since he won the cup with Tampa.

He's the foundation for the coach that's gonna win after him.

 

[DanielBrassard]

Woodcroft should be the guy after Laviolette is canned.

 

[will1066]

She's a shortstop from Seattle.

Argentina soccer great, you mean

 

[Machinehead]

Woodcroft should be the guy after Laviolette is canned.

I could go either way on Woodcroft.

On one hand, he's the guy that had Edmonton playing 60% xGF hockey before Knoblauch got credit for their goaltending going above .880.

On the other hand, how much of their underlying numbers hinge on having the best player in the world?

 

[NYR Viper]

Lafreniere for Rossi because Minnesota is stupid

What about Miller for Rossi

 

[DanielBrassard]

I could go either way on Woodcroft.

On one hand, he's the guy that had Edmonton playing 60% xGF hockey before Knoblauch got credit for their goaltending going above .880.

On the other hand, how much of their underlying numbers hinge on having the best player in the world?

I’m not sure because Edmonton wasn’t a dominant team 5v5 until he got there. That helps but he certainly got them playing the right way more often.

 

[DanielBrassard]

What about Miller for Rossi

Brodin, Middleton, Buium I don’t think Minnesota needs another LHD. Unless you mean J.T. which I would do.

 

[Machinehead]

Argentina soccer great, you mean

Actually, my hottest sports take is that he's the most overrated athlete of all-time.

He only scored 31 goals for Argentina and won four major trophies in his entire career.

He's Samuel Eto'o with a drug-induced cult of personality and a couple of really memorable goals scored at the right time.

 

[eco's bones]

The toxic relationship way of doing shit only ever goes so far before it self destructs. It's a stupid way to do things. We need a systems coach and one who doesn't play favorites. If someone is underperforming and needs to sit down it doesn't have to be antagonistic. It's like you want to play then play better. That's all.....nothing necessarily that anyone needs to lose their shit over. Brind'amour and Cooper pretty much do things that way. They're not idiots.

I think the Woodcroft idea is actually a good one.

 

[JohnC]

Never understood the obsession with Torts.

He holds players accountable and is a disciplinarian, which this team desperately needs, but he also manages to alienate or run out of town most of his teams talented players and is extremely hit or miss with younger players.

He is not exactly some huge winner either, guys won 4 playoff series in 20 years since he won the cup with Tampa.

He was pretty instrumental in building the defensive structure of the 2013-2014 team. It just all fell apart so quickly once AV started digging his claws in and the team made pretty much every wrong personnel decision.