Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XIV

[RGY]

Wanna bet? Check his history. Guy is made of glass

Entirely inaccurate but hey keep pushing yourself into the lonesome corner

 

[leetch99]

I thought Chytil played great today along the boards in the opposition end and worked well with CK to hem them in many times . A good sign for the Future . That stint in the A has done wonders for him . Him and KK are going to be hard guys to take pucks from in the next couple of years .

 

[Avery16]

Edmonton will have to protect Puljujarvi in the expansion draft if they keep him. If we acquire him, we would have to do the same.

 

[QJL]

Panarin is now officially a point per game player in his career. 336 in 336. If he gets back together with Zib, I expect a career high in the 95 point range.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

I hope Zib and Panarin are not reunited.

Slide Zib between Kreider and Buchnevich and drop Chytil into Howden's spot.

 

[Fitzy]

I hope Zib and Panarin are not reunited.

Slide Zib between Kreider and Buchnevich and drop Chytil into Howden's spot.

Agree with the top, disagree with the bottom.

I don't think Panarin-Strome-Fast is something that should comprise most of the year.

Panarin-Strome-Kakko
Kreider-Zibanejed-Buchnevich
Lemieux-Chytil-Fast
Smith-Howden-McKegg

 

[I Eat Crow]

Agree with the top, disagree with the bottom.

I don't think Panarin-Strome-Fast is something that should comprise most of the year.

Panarin-Strome-Kakko
Kreider-Zibanejed-Buchnevich
Lemieux-Chytil-Fast
Smith-Howden-McKegg

This is how I'd line it up too assuming Andersson gets some Hartford time in. I'd prefer to shoot Smith into the sun, but we Can't Always Get What You Want, right?

 

[Kovalev27]

Guys Strome is putting up pts but he is getting destroyed nightly against top lines. He doesn’t belong there.

 

[Kovalev27]

Well brooks is calling for a Lias trade.

 

[FIRE DRURY]

Well brooks is calling for a Lias trade.

You don’t develop a kid by giving him a little over 5min of ES time.

Our coaching staff should be embarrassed of themselves now. Andersson should probably follow Kravtsov’s footsteps and GTFO. Only difference is Lias has a reason to bounce.

Howden played 10 more minutes tonight than Lias. I just don’t understand WTF is going on anymore.

 

[Kovalev27]

There are plenty of things i disagree with David Quinn over including his undying trust in Howden. However Not playing lias Andersson because he’s not very good isn’t one of them. I’ll leave it at that. This is going to come to a head very soon.

 

[FIRE DRURY]

There are plenty of things i disagree with David Quinn over including his undying trust in Howden. However Not playing lias Andersson because he’s not very good isn’t one of them. I’ll leave it at that. This is going to come to a head very soon.

If Lias was given a legit chance for a short period of time and didn’t help the team or show any progression, I’d have no problem with what’s happening now. But that’s not the case.

He’s being put in a position to fail so it shouldn’t surprise anyone that he’s failing.

He should be sent to Hartford instead of playing 7:36 in a game that went to OT. I’m not even a Lias fanboy. If the Devils were treating their prospect like this I’d still disagree that it’s whats best for that prospects development.

 

[Kovalev27]

My friend if Lias Andersson was any good he wouldn’t be glued to the fourth line of a rebuilding team. That’s just the reality of the situation. If anything coaching and management desperately want him to be the guy they hoped they drafted. He’s not.

we myself included made these same arguments for Mcilrath. We wanted to be right but we weren’t. And even he at least flashed some of what made him a high pick. Lias has never flashed anything special at the NHL level. The best thing for both he and us is to trade him and the sooner the better.

 

[Trxjw]

So at this point, perhaps it would be best for all concerned to move Andersson in a trade, but what value could he possibly carry? If the team’s semi-interest in winger Jesse Puljujarvi, currently playing in his native Finland as an unsigned Edmonton restricted free agent, escalates over the next couple of weeks, sending Andersson the other way would seem logical.

https://nypost.com/2019/11/10/rangers-lias-andersson-dilemma-may-need-trade-resolution/

Larry reading the board again. He's poo-pooing the idea of sending Lias to Hartford to get meaningful minutes, but I'd be curious to see how he handled it. We saw Lindgren and Chytil both take it in stride and came up looking like legitimate players. Would hope for the same from Lias.

 

[Kovalev27]

@Trxjw i agree If they aren’t planning on trading him shortly it would be best to see how he handles big mins in Hartford.

this current situation isn’t working for the team or him

 

[Trxjw]

@Trxjw i agree If they aren’t planning on trading him shortly it would be best to see how he handles big mins in Hartford.

this current situation isn’t working for the team or him

Yeah at this point he's either just not in the plans or he's not showing the coaches what they need to see. I reckon it's the latter but the handling of him has been questionable for sure.

 

[Good Intentions]

There are plenty of things i disagree with David Quinn over including his undying trust in Howden. However Not playing lias Andersson because he’s not very good isn’t one of them. I’ll leave it at that. This is going to come to a head very soon.

Absolutely and Please be true.

 

[FIRE DRURY]

My friend if Lias Andersson was any good he wouldn’t be glued to the fourth line of a rebuilding team. That’s just the reality of the situation. If anything coaching and management desperately want him to be the guy they hoped they drafted. He’s not.

we myself included made these same arguments for Mcilrath. We wanted to be right but we weren’t. And even he at least flashed some of what made him a high pick. Lias has never flashed anything special at the NHL level. The best thing for both he and us is to trade him and the sooner the better.

I don’t care too much about 18 or 19 or 20 year old Lias. I don’t have high expectations for kids that age.

I’m more concerned with 23 and 24 year old Lias. Playing 7 freaking minutes a night at this age isn’t going to help with him in the future.

It’s also hard to show much when you have 5min of ES time a game. You’re talking about a couple a shifts a period.

 

[Avery16]

Well brooks is calling for a Lias trade.

Chytil can improve in Hartford, but Andersson can't?

 

[TheBloodyNine]

Lias for Pulju...now where have I seen that before Larry...oh right, HERE ON THIS BOARD!

what. a. hack.

 

[aufheben]

It seems to me that either the org simply sees more potential in Howden or they’re molding Andersson into a specific role. Or both. Another possibility is that Lias is just straight up not as good as this board thinks, myself included.

 

[Richard Banger]

It would be a steal if we traded Andersson for Puljujarvi.

 

[QJL]

Has Lundkvist passed K’Andre in anyone’s prospect rankings? There season starts have been polar opposites. Lundkvist is obviously still more expendable given the stud right side, but curious on the group take.

 

[FIRE DRURY]

Another possibility is that Lias is just straight up not as good as this board thinks, myself included.

Nobody knows how good Lias is. And nobody will until he’s given a fair chance.

As a rebuilding team, shouldn’t we provide our prospects with a realistic opportunity? This is the perfect time to play your young talent and see what you’ve got.

Playing under 10m a night with mediocre wingers doesn’t seem to me like he’s being given an equal opportunity. Regardless of what you think of Andersson, that’s not a successful environment for a young player that needs confidence and experience to grow as a player.

I didn’t want Lias when we selected him. I always saw him as a player with limited offensive upside — but I loved every other aspect of his game. At pick #7, I prefer we go big. Gamble. We didn’t. Oh well. Work with what you have.

Lias will never be the driver on his line. He’s a complimentary player. Put the kid in a role that he’s excelled in rather than the nonsense role being he’s asked to “Stand out” in.

And tryng to stand out in 3-4 shifts a period with talentless hacks shouldn’t be expected. You get no rhythm as a player. It’s like, playing in goal 2-3 games a month.

Howden has had some miserable games this year. Why wasn’t he relegated? Why hasn’t Lias been given an opportunity in Howden’s bigger role when Howden has played like horse****?

If management feels Lias needs to work on certain parts of his game, then send the kid to ****ing Hartford where he can work on that playing 17-20 minutes a night instead of seeing a little over 5 min of ES time in a game that went into OT like tonight’s.

 

[Matt Rentfree]

Entirely inaccurate but hey keep pushing yourself into the lonesome corner

He has plenty of alternate accounts to keep himself company.