Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XIV

[Bleed Ranger Blue]

If you’re going to argue the path to success in the playoffs is having a sniper or not, I’ll fight you to the end on that. I think they’re one of the most overrated types of players in regard to team building, a luxury, not a necessity.

I think your statement is somewhat contradictory. Team building? Sure. Give me a foundation of good all-around players. But the discussion was around success in the playoffs....and given the parity around the league, it's a real X factor to have a guy on the roster that can change the tenor of a game with one shot.

That said, it's not worth worrying about right now with this squad

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

I don’t want to shit on anyone specifically but Jesus are this teams beat writers terrible

The team literally tweeted out Hayes and Zucc aren’t skating for maintenance days and these writers tweet “Not sure where Hayes or Zucc is”

It’s embarrassing how bad the coverage is for this team

 

[Idlerlee]

Maintenance after 1 game? Yikes, he can't be feeling great

 

[GeorgeKaplan]

I think your statement is somewhat contradictory. Team building? Sure. Give me a foundation of good all-around players. But the discussion was around success in the playoffs....and given the parity around the league, it's a real X factor to have a guy on the roster that can change the tenor of a game with one shot.

That said, it's not worth worrying about right now with this squad

Again, luxury, not necessity. What team has ever won with a sniper as the driving force of their offense? Everyone whines about Nash and Gaborik not being able to put this teams offense on their back in the playoffs, but they never want to talk about how easy it is to shut down these types of guys when you can focus on giving them less space to do anything

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

I don’t want to **** on anyone specifically but Jesus are this teams beat writers terrible

The team literally tweeted out Hayes and Zucc aren’t skating for maintenance days and these writers tweet “Not sure where Hayes or Zucc is”

It’s embarrassing how bad the coverage is for this team

Never forget this gem:

 

[Webster]

Hayes is going to teach Zucc how to eat sushi using chopsticks

 

[Kovalev27]

The lineup shakes out better with one less winger.

did anybody notice the absence of Zucc when he was out?

Yes we were better without him

 

[FIRE DRURY]

Wow. Lmao. Whine and cry? He is completely at fault for his mistakes. They are on him and no one else. Stop with damn excuses for him. 24 years old. When will it click in for him? Next season at 25? How about the one after that? He was paid handsomely and has been crap

What are your expectations of him? He's pretty much playing the role as our top dmen. Is he one? No. Not at this point in his young career.

I also don't see dmen peaking after 2~3 years. I understand your frustration with him. I'm right there with you when he makes a boneheaded play. But even Norris caliber dmen **** up.

I think what's important to Brady is to pick his spots when he jumps up. I like his aggressiveness when he does so, but he's prone to doing so at the wrong time. That mistake there can be fixed with coaching and experience.

Most of his gaffes can be fixed with more experience. You think of him as dumb - but I see a bright kid who's still developing.

 

[Irishguy42]

 

[FIRE DRURY]

He’s far from perfect, but this is the kind of coach our team needed.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Its going to take much more than 20 minutes for this team to un-AV itself.

But at least they're working on it.

 

[Irishguy42]

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

Claesson is tracking towards stealing Smith’s spot as far as I’m concerned

Should be Staal’s spot that’s in jeopardy but I’m not gonna harp on that.

 

[DanielBrassard]

Claesson is tracking towards stealing Smith’s spot as far as I’m concerned

Should be Staal’s spot that’s in jeopardy but I’m not gonna harp on that.

I just don't get why Staal is unscratchable

 

[Kovalev27]

Claesson is tracking towards stealing Smith’s spot as far as I’m concerned

Should be Staal’s spot that’s in jeopardy but I’m not gonna harp on that.

This goes back to what someone said earlier. Plenty of cheap solid LD out there to cultivate. That’s why spending 4 mil on smith to have him play his current role sucks. He’s not tradeable.

 

[NYR Viper]

Claesson is tracking towards stealing Smith’s spot as far as I’m concerned

Should be Staal’s spot that’s in jeopardy but I’m not gonna harp on that.

Yeah it really shouldn't be Smith's spot that is being stolen, I agree there. One would assume, with Claesson's play to this point, if it continues, they would want to re-sign him. He is a RFA at years end.

Chara went down last night. Their defense is depleted. Chara. McAvoy. Carlo. Miller. Vakanainen. All out. All of a sudden that John Moore signing in the off-season looks like a genius move as he and Krug are last men standing.

For those in the 'know', can teams move cap hits? For example, could the Rangers and Bruins trade and the Rangers get the other $1.9m of Beleskey's salary as part of the deal?

 

[offdacrossbar]

I just don't get why Staal is unscratchable

secret to the universe.

and cure for cancer

then that question....

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

I just don't get why Staal is unscratchable

He’s there to make sure we don’t play TOO well

 

[DanielBrassard]

This goes back to what someone said earlier. Plenty of cheap solid LD out there to cultivate. That’s why spending 4 mil on smith to have him play his current role sucks. He’s not tradeable.

So true. The one group of players not to sign long-term for a lot of cap, 2nd and 3rd pairing LHD, and the Rangers did it with Smith, Staal, and Skjei.

 

[TheTakedown]

Although RD is definitely a harder position to find players for, I wonder how much the Rangers were interested in Foote. They were trading the organization's best skater and he is an LD. They might have been looking for a D that could potentially replace McDonagh specifically.

That's why Hajek was in the trade. Gorton specifically wanted him

 

[TheTakedown]

I feel like the probability stats aren't good for young players who struggle to start their pro careers.

For every one that pulls it out it feels like 99 others just never reach their potential. Reclamations are just not worth the cost of investment, unless they're essentially free like Puempel.

Quinn might be just the right type of coach for a kid like Sprong with a big attitude. You want to talk about character and confidence? Sprong seems like a guy whos got it. Pens don't have time for that right now, Rangers can afford to take the risk

 

[Justin17]

Does Eklund have any credibility? He said there is a lot of interest in Zuc and the Rangers could be a landing spot for Nylander.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Does Eklund have any credibility? He said there is a lot of interest in Zuc and the Rangers could be a landing spot for Nylander.

No.

McKenzie has already shut down the nylander to NY stuff.

 

[Justin17]

No.

McKenzie has already shut down the nylander to NY stuff.

Yeah, that’s what I thought

 

[HFsNumber1Heel]

I like @Ola post earlier about LHDs and depth. Rangers have been very good bargain bin finders. Besides a good draft and spending money wisely, bargain bin hunting is essential for sustained success in a salary cap era. You either need to find young guys who have been blocked in an organization and give them a shot, or an older reclamation project that has one or two skills that fir your team's system. Grabner was the perfect example of that here.