Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XIV (To trade or not to trade is the question)

Tob

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Not much about Rangers players

Dubas and Spezza were at the Hartford game for some reason

There is a very obvious issue going on in Vancouver with a JT Miller vs Pettersson rift - could be something to monitor
We could boot Meeka and K’lazy to vancouver for Pettersson. The beta you don’t know is better than the one you do.
 

TominNC

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No, many more misses than hits and numerous ludicrous proposals that even NHL 25 would reject.

Rempe and his 5 minute major ejection, for the 4th time in 22 games, almost cost this fragile team its first victory in weeks. Team kills of its 7th PK, a 5 minute major, and somehow wins.

Bern: "Rempe in the lineup is why the Rangers won"
Why even read his posts. My only wish is I didn’t have to read sensible people reacting to him
 
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I’ll keep pointing this out for this offseason but Drury has a very unique opportunity to rebuild this teams defense quickly and to one that I think would actually augment the forwards and goalie they have currently.

Drury is clearly trying to build a forward group who likes to push the pace and play a more physical brand of hockey. Cuylle, Berard, Othmann, Edstrom, Rempe. These guys have no problem getting to the slot and battling in front. The issue this team has currently is they lack guys who can move laterally across the blue line and get pucks to and around the net. Fox is really it.

The addition of another will help this. He’s an above average skater who isn’t shy about shooting. Miller should be able to do this if he can buy in. Schneider is actually pretty good at this as well.

So that leaves us with:

Miller-Fox
_____-Borgen
______-Schneider

Sign Borgen for 4 years at $3.75m

The two guys I’m looking at are Orlov and Provorov. Both of those guys skate really well and while they are both gamblers they also help create offensive opportunities with their skating and lateral mobility. I don’t think Orlov requires a long term deal with his age and I think Provorov’s next deal could be ‘reasonable’. Say

Sign Orlov for 3 years at $4.5m
Sign Provorov for 6 year at $6m

Provorv-Fox
Miller-Schneider
Orlov-Borgen

I will say that if there was a legitimate deal on the table for Miller, I’d consider it. It would need to be either a high end forward or a high end forward prospect +. Think something like the Drysdale trade with Anaheim and Philly last year.

In that case, I’d just be on the lookout for a depth LD. I’m not sold on Jones…
 
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LionsHeart

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I keep thinking Mika for Miller makes a lot of sense. I know it’s not ideal, but the ages, contracts, and needs for a change of scenery make sense.
 

NickyFotiu

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they expire the same year, Miller is $500,000 cheaper.
Thank you.

Im not thrilled by eithers age but if its one or the other Id easily take JT. Now with that said is JT a guy that will have issues getting along with others? I always liked JT. I always thought he was underrated as a Ranger. I enjoyed the JT-Hayes-Zooks line.
 

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Lots of smoke around Vancouver and Buffalo. They have def been talking. The original proposal I heard was Pettersson for Cozens and Byram, Buf said no. Van then asked about Tuch and Buf said he was a non starter.
 

LionsHeart

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Thank you.

Im not thrilled by eithers age but if its one or the other Id easily take JT. Now with that said is JT a guy that will have issues getting along with others? I always liked JT. I always thought he was underrated as a Ranger. I enjoyed the JT-Hayes-Zooks line.
I hated that trade so much. I know we all harp about the Buch trade, but trading Miller for essentially nothing was so awful.

He’s kind of a jerk, but I wonder if that’s not the worst thing in the world for this team right now, and might be what Drury wants.
 

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Addition by subtraction. Id still consider it.

But he probably has trade value. They need to start making life tough for him so he waives.
Buying him out should not be an option. I get addition by subtraction, but these buy-out proof contracts make it difficult to replace a player while maintaining that cap hit. If they can't find a trade for Zibanejad (NMC waived), to a team who willingly taking 100-50%, then the only option left is retaining 50% with an overpayment to a 3rd team eating half of what's left.

What's worse, giving up an overpayment removing a couple of years of assets, or keeping Zibanejad? I'm not really sure anymore. The future looks to have a set back either way.
 

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I hated that trade so much. I know we all harp about the Buch trade, but trading Miller for essentially nothing was so awful.

He’s kind of a jerk, but I wonder if that’s not the worst thing in the world for this team right now, and might be what Drury wants.
Felt like Gorton got carried away with a firesale. I understand moving guys at 25% off but felt like we moved some at 50% to 75% off.
 

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Buffalo has to do something and Tuch is a ufa after next year

He’s gonna be the guy to go


If they want prospects, they're probably looking at starting with Othmann, along with our first. But something tells me one has to think they want players a this point. Tired of losing and rebuilding. I'm not sure we have the pieces they want to make that trade happen.
 

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