Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XIV (To trade or not to trade is the question)

[ThePeoplesPeople]

Maybe a bit of both. That Vancouver trade would be a solid win, but the Dallas return for Panarin feels light. I don't know enough about Bischel, but the thought of Dumba makes my head hurt.

Fair. Didn't want to send Panarin anywhere in the East. Assumed Canada/Utah was a no-go. Kings probably don't feel they're close enough to pony up. Vegas can't trade for a star every year, can they? So Dallas/Minnesota basically .. but you're probably right that it's light given he would be there for 2 playoff runs.

 

[Guyute]

Send Mika and CK out there together - much better chance they waive if they are together. Vancouver would obviously have some good offers for JT, but it looks like that situation is becoming/already is untenable.

JT has a NMC of his own. I doubt there would be more than 4-6 offers max because he can choose his destinations. The Canucks would need another top 6 center in return, and I don't know there's a center available better than Mika from those 4-6 teams.

 

[zlev]

here's my team

sign Rantanen
trade for Elias Pettersson
trade for Alex Carrier
trade for Michael Kesselring
get rid of Lindgren, Zibanejad, Borgen

Panarin-Pettersson-Rantanen (a real first line)
Cuylle-Chytil-Lafreniere
Kreider-Trocheck-Berard
Edstrom/Carrick/Vesey/Rempe/Sykora/Othmann whatever

Miller-Fox
Schneider-Kesselring
Jones-Carrier

 

[Machinehead]

here's my team

sign Rantanen
trade for Elias Pettersson
trade for Alex Carrier
trade for Michael Kesselring
get rid of Lindgren, Zibanejad, Borgen

Panarin-Pettersson-Rantanen (a real first line)
Cuylle-Chytil-Lafreniere
Kreider-Trocheck-Berard
Edstrom/Carrick/Vesey/Rempe/Sykora/Othmann whatever

Miller-Fox
Schneider-Kesselring
Jones-Carrier

MIght as well just say "we got McDavid" lol

 

[zlev]

MIght as well just say "we got McDavid" lol

yeah well this shit isnt gonna work without a real 1C, maybe they'd take a package around Perreault for him. Pettersson seems unhappy in Vancouver.

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

MIght as well just say "we got McDavid" lol

when did petersson become mcdavid? there’s definitely been rumblings about him

 

[The Crypto Guy]

here's my team

sign Rantanen
trade for Elias Pettersson
trade for Alex Carrier
trade for Michael Kesselring
get rid of Lindgren, Zibanejad, Borgen

Panarin-Pettersson-Rantanen (a real first line)
Cuylle-Chytil-Lafreniere
Kreider-Trocheck-Berard
Edstrom/Carrick/Vesey/Rempe/Sykora/Othmann whatever

Miller-Fox
Schneider-Kesselring
Jones-Carrier

For some reason you left Kreider on that roster.

 

[Machinehead]

yeah well this shit isnt gonna work without a real 1C, maybe they'd take a package around Perreault for him. Pettersson seems unhappy in Vancouver.

Idk that lineup is pretty stacked. I think you'd get away with a committee at center, especially considering Rempe could probably center Panarin and Rantanen.

I agree with you that 1C is ideal, but I just don't see it, unless we got JTM and he still had something left in the tank.

 

[zlev]

For some reason you left Kreider on that roster.

yeah that's right

 

[RangerBoy]

 

[Machinehead]

when did petersson become mcdavid? there’s definitely been rumblings about him

It's very unrealistic. He's a legit 1C in his prime with 8 years left on his contract.

Off the top of my head, I don't think a player with that combination of circumstances has ever been traded.

Hell, McDavid is probably more realistic if he shows any indication he won't extend.

There are rumblings that he and JTM can't stand each other and almost all of the trade rumors are about JT.

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

It's very unrealistic. He's a legit 1C in his prime with 8 years left on his contract.

Off the top of my head, I don't think a player with that combination of circumstances has ever been traded.

Hell, McDavid is probably more realistic if he shows any indication he won't extend.

There are rumblings that he and JTM can't stand each other and almost all of the trade rumors are about JT.

I don’t think it’s likely but I wouldn’t rule anything out with Rutherford at GM

 

[Machinehead]

I will say this, if Pettersson did become available, I'd buy Perreault's plane ticket.

And that's not a long list of guys I'd move Perreault for.

 

[NickyFotiu]

I don't think it's a question of how GMs/coaches value our players -- it's a question of just how badly they can fleece us knowing we want these players gone -- if Seattle's offer for KK was better than the other offers, imagine how bad the other offers were. After all that's happened, Rangers will not get fair market value for any player try to move.

Thatis a fair point but based on last season and 4 goals so far this season Im not sure it was a bad offer. I had hoped it would be a 2nd but wouldn't have been totally shocked if it was a 4th. Can we say our players suck and we just want them gone and then complain about their market value? If KK turns in to the 30 goal 60 point guy that some have claimed then it will be bad but we haven't been seeing those kind of skills imo. Its luke when Lias and Kravs were traded we heard how great they would be elsewhere but turns out the rest of the NHL had a similar view over time. Time is the key here. A poster said KK will score 60 points sometime in the next 2 seasons. I have my doubts that will happen. We will have to wait and see how things turn out.

 

[Ruggs225]

Ok guys, when u get the puck forwards fly the zone. Dmen skate backwards and make sure the other team has reset their defense. It would be ungentlemanly of us to play until they are good and ready to defend us.

When opposing players come in for a hit, stand still and make sure they get full contact. Cough up the puck as necessary.

Remember kreider and zib will be out there when it matters most anyway so dont worry about your individual play. I have to find someone new to bench now that Kakko is gone. Laff, cuylle, berard im loooking at one of you since your young and im slowly becoming senile.

Dont try to hard, we dont want injuries before the holidays.

And heavens forbid do not try to block a shot. That is dangerous and you might hurt yourself.

Also, this is from our HR staf. Crayons and coloring books will be given out for those with emotional needs during this time. Feel free to bring them during games.

We will give participation trophys after the dallas game so u all can feel good with your family.

Thank you. Go team

 

[zlev]

Idk that lineup is pretty stacked. I think you'd get away with a committee at center, especially considering Rempe could probably center Panarin and Rantanen.

I agree with you that 1C is ideal, but I just don't see it, unless we got JTM and he still had something left in the tank.

yeah i mean it's a fantasy team. it also involves moving Mika which I think will be just as difficult as trading for Pettersson lol.

 

[noncents]

You love to make these proclamations that you are right based off these insane little scenarios you invent. Bottom line you were wrong about KK's value (as were many, myself included).

The Ranger will never "listen to you" because you are merely a poster on a website that organizations don't read or value the opinions of. Your self-agrandizing nature is annoying.

hm i wonder who this is directed at

 

[The Crypto Guy]

yeah that's right

Oh, so nothing will change? Same country club shit? Pass on your roster.

 

[zlev]

Oh, so nothing will change? Same country club shit? Pass on your roster.

I wouldn't want you to like my roster anyway, you not liking it is how I know it's good

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

I wouldn't want you to like my roster anyway, you not liking it is how I know it's good

you don’t want jumbo*’s approval???

 

[McRanger92]

This is exactly the path we should all be wanting the Rangers to take. Put personal feelings aside and you cant convince me this isnt the right path for the team. The last iteration of the roster wasnt working.

 

[Fitzy]

Unless the “something big” is a second #1 defenseman, I don’t think they’re gonna make it out of round one even if they do qualify.

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

unless the something big is brady tkachuk and using magic healing powers on all our defenseman this team is not sniffing a wild card spot let alone winning a round

 

[McRanger92]

Unless the “something big” is a second #1 defenseman, I don’t think they’re gonna make it out of round one even if they do qualify.

We've already traded for multiple defenseman already. I think the front office knows it's a massive need. Even with Kakko gone, I dont dislike the forward group. I just wish they could start playing with effort again soon.

 

[Fitzy]

We've already traded for multiple defenseman already. I think the front office knows it's a massive need. Even with Kakko gone, I dont dislike the forward group. I just wish they could start playing with effort again soon.

Right but having 8 defensemen that are #6s at best on a good team isn’t so much making the team better, just cheaper