Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XIV (To trade or not to trade is the question)

[Boris Zubov]

Too many children giving their takes on what's going on with the Rangers. Drury made the fanbase turn on Trouba? Incorrect, his play did that. I could take or leave Drury at this point but watching these crybabies absolve the players of any blame is unbelievable. Try working a real job one day. When you get fired on Planet Earth (and not Fantasyland like Picasso Trouba) for performance reasons, they dont let you keep your 8 million dollar salary and move you to SoCal. They wait until a Friday and shitcan you at 3 o'clock so you can't make a scene! Can we get back to discussing solutions rather than the media bitching about whose feelings were more hurt. Just win a f***ing game!!!



The only people demanding accountability of the GM, Coach and players is the fans. Too much of that going around in sports recently.

I love how yesterday Rupp claimed he wasn't taking sides with the players. Give me a break. What a bunch of coddled children. Like really, talking to the guy's agent isn't enough, Tuba needed his hand held throughout the entire process?

I'm no Drury fan, but if I have to pick sides, please ship out the rest of these whiny bastards.

 

[nyr2k2]

That 2014 team wasn't carried by the goalie. They were a legitimately good team and even the SCF was far closer than most people give credit.

They were a good team but LA outplayed us by a solid margin that series. I don't remember the shot totals but they favored LA basically every game but one, some by quite a bit. Lundqvist definitely was instrumental in keeping those games close. IIRC the one game where he was "bad" was of course the only game we really outplayed LA. I will remember that series as being close because there were 3 OT games and a bounce here, a Rick Nash not blowing it there, it could have gone different, but LA for sure was the better team overall.

 

[leetch99]

Like wow we all knew there was no leadership with this core. Bunch of pansies

Most NHL players have been coddled -spoiled-treated differently since they were 8 yrs old and getting paid to score by parents in minor hockey . They buy them 300-400 buck sticks and 500 buck skates like they are going out of style . They travel all over the place and miss Fridays at school....life is different if you are a decent hockey player and it starts at an early age . So....seeing how they are now sulking over a couple of guys dealt hard blows....it is easy to believe it did happen . Sports is different today.....and not just hockey .

 

[JimmyG89]

Need to target young centers and young LHD. Any deal besides that just added to the jam we have on wing and on RD.

I'd take a RHD, but you're looking at Fox/Schneider/Mancini for now and likely some veteran signing in the offseason. You have Emery in 3-4 years.

Any young winger is competing against Laf, Cuylle, Othmann, Berard, Sykora, Edstrom, Perreault for spots. We also should be talking about Brody Lamb at some point. He's at a PPG in the NCAA.

Same situation here too, probably a UFA is added in there. Yes, they may all not make it, but they've got enough.

 

[nyr2k2]

Too many children giving their takes on what's going on with the Rangers. Drury made the fanbase turn on Trouba? Incorrect, his play did that. I could take or leave Drury at this point but watching these crybabies absolve the players of any blame is unbelievable. Try working a real job one day. When you get fired on Planet Earth (and not Fantasyland like Picasso Trouba) for performance reasons, they dont let you keep your 8 million dollar salary and move you to SoCal. They wait until a Friday and shitcan you at 3 o'clock so you can't make a scene! Can we get back to discussing solutions rather than the media bitching about whose feelings were more hurt. Just win a f***ing game!!!



The only people demanding accountability of the GM, Coach and players is the fans. Too much of that going around in sports recently.

This core has had what, three coaches? And two front offices? You don't need to love Drury or what he's done but what we're seeing now, this falls squarely on the players.

If anyone on this board knows me, they know I'm always fiercely pro-player. This is some bullshit though. I haven't seen many instances before of a group of guys with this level of talent just collectively deciding they don't give a shit anymore. It's really gross, especially as someone who is fortunate to have a good job like me but who busts their ass every day and knows what would happen if I stopped doing that.

I defended Trouba at every turn in the off-season but the way he showed up this year, again, was gross. This whole thing is an absolute mess, and while the FO of course shoulders some of the blame, I put the bulk of this squarely on our pathetic "leadership core."

 

[McRanger92]

This code has had what, three coaches? And two front offices? You don't need to love Drury or what he's done but what we're seeing now, this falls squarely on the players.

If anyone on this board knows me, they know I'm always fiercely pro-player. This is some bullshit though. I haven't seen many instances before of a group of guys with this level of talent just collectively deciding they don't give a shit anymore. It's really gross, especially as someone who is fortunate to have a good job like me but who buys their ass every day and knows what would happen if I stopped doing that.

I defended Trouba at every turn in the off-season but the way he showed up this year, again, was gross. This whole thing is an absolute mess, and while the FO of course shoulders some of the blame, I put the bulk of this squarely on our pathetic "leadership core."

Preach. I usually go to 5-10 games a year. Dolan aint getting a cent from me to watch these losers.

 

[Machinehead]

They were a good team but LA outplayed us by a solid margin that series. I don't remember the shot totals but they favored LA basically every game but one, some by quite a bit. Lundqvist definitely was instrumental in keeping those games close. IIRC the one game where he was "bad" was of course the only game we really outplayed LA. I will remember that series as being close because there were 3 OT games and a bounce here, a Rick Nash not blowing it there, it could have gone different, but LA for sure was the better team overall.

If played good, solid, attractive hockey and ran into one team better than us, I'm pretty satisfied with that overall.

I'm not "Cup or bust" I'm "don't waste my time."

 

[DanielBrassard]

Deepak Durvajeen

@EdJovanovski @Tob

 

[nyr2k2]

If played good, solid, attractive hockey and ran into one team better than us, I'm pretty satisfied with that overall.

I'm not "Cup or bust" I'm "don't waste my time."

Oh for sure. LA played that style of tough, puck-possession hockey that we all knew was going to be a touch matchup for us. It was Chicago they beat to get in, right? I know Chicago was in the middle of their run, but I remember thinking that was the team I really wanted.

It was the same thing the next year with the Mets, where I was pretty sure they'd take Toronto but I was terrified of the matchup with KC. And sure enough, they pull KC, whose high contact, low strikeout approach at the plate was kryptonite to Mets pitchers.

Definitely no shame in losing in those circumstances, although it still hurts like a f***ing bitch.

 

[I Eat Crow]

Oh for sure. LA played that style of tough, puck-possession hockey that we all knew was going to be a touch matchup for us. It was Chicago they beat to get in, right? I know Chicago was in the middle of their run, but I remember thinking that was the team I really wanted.

It was the same thing the next year with the Mets, where I was pretty sure they'd take Toronto but I was terrified of the matchup with KC. And sure enough, they pull KC, whose high contact, low strikeout approach at the plate was kryptonite to Mets pitchers.

Definitely no shame in losing in those circumstances, although it still hurts like a f***ing bitch.

Absolutely. The Rangers are Stanley Cup Champions in 2014 if they drew Chicago instead of LA.

Possibly 2015 too if they got Montreal again instead of Tampa.

 

[Machinehead]

Oh for sure. LA played that style of tough, puck-possession hockey that we all knew was going to be a touch matchup for us. It was Chicago they beat to get in, right? I know Chicago was in the middle of their run, but I remember thinking that was the team I really wanted.

It was the same thing the next year with the Mets, where I was pretty sure they'd take Toronto but I was terrified of the matchup with KC. And sure enough, they pull KC, whose high contact, low strikeout approach at the plate was kryptonite to Mets pitchers.

Definitely no shame in losing in those circumstances, although it still hurts like a f***ing bitch.

I remain convinced that we would have beaten Chicago. We just weren't a good matchup for them, like LA was with us.

Our depth would have eaten Toews and nobody else at center alive.

 

[ThePeoplesPeople]

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[MrAlmost]

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EVERYONE! EVERYONE! ITS HAPPENING!!!

 

[Machinehead]

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Extreme pigeon danger?

 

[Bacon Artemi Bravo]

Gonna wow every post til we trade Zibanejad

 

[McRanger92]

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Please be a defenseman

 

[Machinehead]

Gonna wow every post til we trade Zibanejad

I'm gonna wow this post

 

[will1066]

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Love you

 

[DanielBrassard]

Don’t let us down Chris

 

[MrAlmost]

So who do we think is going on waivers? Rangers don't make trades anymore. Haha

 

[DanielBrassard]

Kakko?

 

[McRanger92]

credit: @ThePeoplesPeople

 

[Irishguy42]

 

[Machinehead]

There it is

 

[Paulie Walnutz]

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Nah it’s me I just had White Castle