Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XIV (To trade or not to trade is the question)

[KirkAlbuquerque]

big weekend coming up .

 

[Raspewtin]

isnt wahlstrom basically Othmann? Good at nothing but shooting

that’s not true

Othmann is good at passing too and is very physical. it is fair to say he has historically over relied on his shot though

 

[leetch99]

I dont understand why we disnt put a claim in for Dermott. Minn claimed him.

We have no defensive depth and now an injury.

Silly drury

He must have been too cheap to obtain....

 

[eco's bones]

He based not earned an NHL chance. Mackey is the right choice. Because the organization has not addressed the defensive depth issues over the last 2+ seasons. Hartford was playing Jones on the Right side when he was waiver eligible and now for most of last season and all of this season they have placed Scanlin there.
From a layman’s point of view it’s appears that they don’t have enough management staff to handle a professional sports team’s needs or they’re just bad at their jobs.

Scanlin and Mackey both played one game for us last year and Mackey seemed to get more positive attention. In any case Scanlin hasn't played the last 3 games which leads me to think he's probably hurt. Robertson's coming off a big game however. The Pack beat Hershey....just about the best team in the East 3-0 and Robertson assisted on all the goals and was 3rd star. Robertson leads Pack defensemen now in points (12) and +/- (+5).

 

[RangerBoy]

Lindgren-Fox
Mackey-Schneider
Jones-Mancini

That's a rough looking D. The Rangers have a tough schedule coming up to finish out 2024.

Greg/Puck Daddy says the Rangers players are tired of Laviolette



So soon? Peter must be too tough on them. Gallant was too loose and didn't give them any structure. Quinn was too micromanaging. AV. Torts. He was too tough.

 

[NYRFAN218]

Lindgren-Fox
Mackey-Schneider
Jones-Mancini

That's a rough looking D. The Rangers have a tough schedule coming up to finish out 2024.

Greg/Puck Daddy says the Rangers players are tired of Laviolette



So soon? Peter must be too tough on them. Gallant was too loose and didn't give them any structure. Quinn was too micromanaging. AV. Torts. He was too tough.

I'm tired of the players so it seems like everyone is tired of everything.

 

[Savant]

Laviolette has always had a short life.

I’m just getting mentally ready for the nightmare Cheveldayoff/Quenneville ticket coming this summer

 

[Vitto79]

Is Samuellsen in Buffalo a bad contract ?

that’s not true

Othmann is good at passing too and is very physical. it is fair to say he has historically over relied on his shot though

Othmaan if healthy probably already gets a look

Mackey is just as good as Dermott at this point

 

[Mike in Houston]

Lindgren-Fox
Mackey-Schneider
Jones-Mancini

That's a rough looking D. The Rangers have a tough schedule coming up to finish out 2024.

Greg/Puck Daddy says the Rangers players are tired of Laviolette



So soon? Peter must be too tough on them. Gallant was too loose and didn't give them any structure. Quinn was too micromanaging. AV. Torts. He was too tough.

Puck Daddy doesn't know shit.

 

[CLW]

Laviolette has always had a short life.

I’m just getting mentally ready for the nightmare Cheveldayoff/Quenneville ticket coming this summer

Drury has a very mediocre record. Some wins, some losses, hardly anything outstanding or particularly impressive. Overall pretty dreary as most of us expected when he got the job, and definitely nothing to cling to.

 

[LionsHeart]

Drury has a very mediocre record. Some wins, some losses, hardly anything outstanding or particularly impressive. Overall pretty dreary as most of us expected when he got the job, and definitely nothing to cling to.

I really don’t like that he decided to address issues with the team now as opposed to over the last few offseasons.

We all knew this team needed to upgrade at LHD, and that the forward group played too much on the perimeter. He may have had to have made a few hockey trades, but these were all glaring weaknesses and we all knew the team was overly reliant on its Power Play and Goaltending.

Now we’re in November/December and this is the time he wants to make these changes?

 

[NYRFAN218]

Drury has a very mediocre record. Some wins, some losses, hardly anything outstanding or particularly impressive. Overall pretty dreary as most of us expected when he got the job, and definitely nothing to cling to.

I wouldn't say mediocre but definitely very average.

Wins: Drafting Perreault, Othmann seems like a solid pick at his slot, locking up Fox to the contract that he did, getting out of Goodrow and Trouba contracts at no cost even if it did ruffle feathers, Trocheck instead of Strome, Chytil contract (injuries aside).

Not so great: Early returns on 2021 draft outside of Othmann is not good, 2022 TBD but as of now Mancini is the only one to make it, signing Goodrow to that contract to begin with, trading assets for Reaves even if he was good in the room, the amount of draft capital and assets given up at deadlines without even a SCF appearance.

Downright terrible: Giving up multiple 2nd round picks to get out of a Nemeth contract he signed, dealing Buchnevich in the way he did, trading for an injured Patrick Kane that did not fit in this lineup while giving up even more draft capital and throwing a former 1st round pick (whether he sucks or not) out the window in the process without a real shot, Zibanejad contract which we all knew was bad though no one foresaw this coming.

I think we'll have a really good idea of Drury over the next 12 months. There's a lot of moves listed above but the fact is the vast majority of this team (Panarin, Kreider, Zibanejad, Shesterkin, Miller, Laf, Kakko, Chytil, Berard, Edstrom, Cuylle, Fox, Lindgren, Schneider, Jones, and Igor) were all either already on the roster or were drafted prior to Drury taking over for Gorton/JD. You'll really see Drury's stamp on the team in the coming year (assuming he's still here barring Dolan losing it).

 

[zlev]

Greg/Puck Daddy says the Rangers players are tired of Laviolette

So soon? Peter must be too tough on them. Gallant was too loose and didn't give them any structure. Quinn was too micromanaging. AV. Torts. He was too tough.

it would make sense. Laviolette ran them into the ground last year playing every game like a playoff game to get the Presidents Trophy and make himself look good. i wouldn't be surprised if a lot of these players are still feeling the effects of last season now.

 

[Levitate]

Lindgren-Fox
Mackey-Schneider
Jones-Mancini

That's a rough looking D. The Rangers have a tough schedule coming up to finish out 2024.

Greg/Puck Daddy says the Rangers players are tired of Laviolette



So soon? Peter must be too tough on them. Gallant was too loose and didn't give them any structure. Quinn was too micromanaging. AV. Torts. He was too tough.

lol yeah I mean I dunno how much this stuff is just people guessing but if the Rangers players are "tired" of Laviolette then blow it up, trade them all.
I keep saying you can't just keep cycling through coaches because this team gives up on them after 1 season. That's a sign of something f***ed up in the locker room and something wrong overall. It's completely unacceptable to let the inmates run the asylum at this point. They've done nothing to earn the sway to demand coach changes at this point. No cups, disappointing playoff performances when it counts, constant turmoil and giving up on coaches. There's nothing "special" about this core leadership group.

it would make sense. Laviolette ran them into the ground last year playing every game like a playoff game to get the Presidents Trophy and make himself look good. i wouldn't be surprised if a lot of these players are still feeling the effects of last season now.

Lame. Other teams work harder every game over the course of a season than the Rangers do, even last year. Carolina outworks everyone every year and still has all the energy in the playoffs. Florida played harder than the Rangers. Every team in the league works hard game in game out all season long these days, there's no longer a "good team will coast for half the season to start tuning up for the playoffs". If you're not trying then you're a f***in' bad team these days. Even the most talent bereft teams in the league are hard to play against because they're all playing hard and fast. Except the Rangers. They're easy to play against because they think they're special and can half ass it

 

[CLW]

I wouldn't say mediocre but definitely very average.

Wins: Drafting Perreault, Othmann seems like a solid pick at his slot, locking up Fox to the contract that he did, getting out of Goodrow and Trouba contracts at no cost even if it did ruffle feathers, Trocheck instead of Strome, Chytil contract (injuries aside).

Not so great: Early returns on 2021 draft outside of Othmann is not good, 2022 TBD but as of now Mancini is the only one to make it, signing Goodrow to that contract to begin with, trading assets for Reaves even if he was good in the room, the amount of draft capital and assets given up at deadlines without even a SCF appearance.

Downright terrible: Giving up multiple 2nd round picks to get out of a Nemeth contract he signed, dealing Buchnevich in the way he did, trading for an injured Patrick Kane that did not fit in this lineup while giving up even more draft capital and throwing a former 1st round pick (whether he sucks or not) out the window in the process without a real shot, Zibanejad contract which we all knew was bad though no one foresaw this coming.

I think we'll have a really good idea of Drury over the next 12 months. There's a lot of moves listed above but the fact is the vast majority of this team (Panarin, Kreider, Zibanejad, Shesterkin, Miller, Laf, Kakko, Chytil, Berard, Edstrom, Cuylle, Fox, Lindgren, Schneider, Jones, and Igor) were all either already on the roster or were drafted prior to Drury taking over for Gorton/JD. You'll really see Drury's stamp on the team in the coming year (assuming he's still here barring Dolan losing it).

Hm? Mediocre is a synonym for average. So we agree then. We can nitpick his decisions but simply the need to do so to find the odd highlight is pretty damning. If he was a coach he'd have been fired a long time ago with this piddling record.

 

[zlev]

Lame. Other teams work harder every game over the course of a season than the Rangers do, even last year. Carolina outworks everyone every year and still has all the energy in the playoffs. Florida played harder than the Rangers. Every team in the league works hard game in game out all season long these days, there's no longer a "good team will coast for half the season to start tuning up for the playoffs". If you're not trying then you're a f***in' bad team these days. Even the most talent bereft teams in the league are hard to play against because they're all playing hard and fast. Except the Rangers. They're easy to play against because they think they're special and can half ass it

Carolina was so gassed last year that they almost got swept. They were gassed in 2022 too. there's a reason they never look the same in the playoffs as they do in November.

 

[Fitzy]

Greg/Puck Daddy says the Rangers players are tired of Laviolette

Well that's good for them, because I'm tired of the Rangers players

 

[NYRFAN218]

Hm? Mediocre is a synonym for average. So we agree then. We can nitpick his decisions but simply the need to do so to find the odd highlight is pretty damning. If he was a coach he'd have been fired a long time ago with this piddling record.

True, that’s my bad. Always found mediocre to be more of a negative word but you’re right its definition is average. Could the Rangers do better? IMO yes. But they could also do a lot worse just looking around at who is employed in this league.

 

[cheech70]

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

His wife is a doctor? Why is this the first time I’m hearing about this?

 

[Savant]

Yeah, I don’t think Trouba is going to tell Portzine of all people he (rightfully) did not want to go to Ohio

 

[Kodiak]

Greg/Puck Daddy says the Rangers players are tired of Laviolette

So soon? Peter must be too tough on them. Gallant was too loose and didn't give them any structure. Quinn was too micromanaging. AV. Torts. He was too tough.

If that’s true (that’s a big if) and this team has quit on another coach in less than two years, then that’s the core needs to be blown up. The players need to play and not pine for some magical Goldilocks of a head coach that isn’t too hard and isn’t too soft.

This core should not get another coach. Moving Trouba wasn’t enough.

 

[SA16]

If that’s true (that’s a big if) and this team has quit on another coach in less than two years, then that’s the core needs to be blown up. The players need to play and not pine for some magical Goldilocks of a head coach that isn’t too hard and isn’t too soft.

This core should not get another coach. Moving Trouba wasn’t enough.

Messier?

 

[LiveLongandProspal]

Fire Drury

 

[Vitto79]

I’m approaching trade everyone vibes lol

Kreider , Kakko , Lindgren are gonna be gone soon whether people like it or not

Buffalo , Detroit , Nashville also desperate