Oh, I took it as it was the Mt. Rushmore of Ranger centers only.
Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XIV (To trade or not to trade is the question)
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UnSandvich
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Great retort when everything else you tried failed.
Still want to push your narrative for Boucher in a time where there were only 120 players in the league
My guy, your argument of "Zibanejad scored more points so he's better" while simultaneously ignoring performance relative to contemporaries, award/all star voting and more is so stubborn, I genuinely can't tell where bias ends and a genuine lack of comprehension begins. Or I suppose you could just be a troll.
Regardless, it is abundantly clear you do not have any intention of having a genuine debate or considering opposing evidence, so have a good night.
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It's pretty near impossible to compare players from different eras and then opinions are opinions.....everybody has one.
On Zibanejad he's been great for us until fairly recently. He didn't get the contract he did for nothing. His production numbers and overall play justified giving him that at the time. His game kind of dropped last year though and he and his line got owned by Florida and Barkov's line in last year's playoffs. Whether that's been part of his confidence issues this year I have no idea but his focus has been shit and he's made a lot of soft plays that have come back to hurt us which is why his minus numbers are so horrific. I don't want to kill the guy but hockey like almost anything else is a lot about what have you done lately? That's why all the negativity in his direction.
Career and legacy wise he's a fairly big reach to become an HOF player. If he can get over a 1000 points and win a Cup that would help. I'd think he'd have to do at least both.
On Zibanejad he's been great for us until fairly recently. He didn't get the contract he did for nothing. His production numbers and overall play justified giving him that at the time. His game kind of dropped last year though and he and his line got owned by Florida and Barkov's line in last year's playoffs. Whether that's been part of his confidence issues this year I have no idea but his focus has been shit and he's made a lot of soft plays that have come back to hurt us which is why his minus numbers are so horrific. I don't want to kill the guy but hockey like almost anything else is a lot about what have you done lately? That's why all the negativity in his direction.
Career and legacy wise he's a fairly big reach to become an HOF player. If he can get over a 1000 points and win a Cup that would help. I'd think he'd have to do at least both.
I am sorry but your argument in regards to players in a league with 120 players is not flying.
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Panarin has two 1st team all star selections and a 2nd team as well as two top-5 Hart finishes in five years ...
So all of a sudden hockey media is the gospel of truth? Of course pioneers from way back and nostalgia carries alot of weight when creating those rankings.
Panarin also has been outscored (goals) by Mika every season except last one since he joined the Rangers.
Panarin has been outscored by Mika in every playoffs since joining the Rangers.
I seriously believe people underrate Mikas career as a Ranger.
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RangerBoy
Dolan sucks!!!
RangerBoy
Dolan sucks!!!
Emily Kaplan is lost. Guetznel was a rental. He didn't change Carolina's fortunes. All of this BS about the rental players. One player isn't making much of a difference. Carolina lost in the playoffs. Again.
She mentioned the Knicks and the Garden in the pod. She said the Knicks made moves after a successful season. Moves as in being chaotic. The Knicks had to consolidate their assets. They had too many picks which were losing their value so they made the trade with the Nets for Bridges. A week before the Bridges trades, Jake Fischer who was with Yahoo Sports at the time wrote the Knicks blew their chance of turning those picks and pick swaps into a player because the Knicks had become a good team and their picks would not be so high. Even the acquired picks had lost value. If you listen to Windhorst's pod and Zack Lowe's pod, so many teams coveted OG and Bridges. They were offering picks and pick swaps. The Knicks got both players. Barnett and Quickly for OG. Randle's contract is expiring soon and they were not planning to sign him to a new deal. KAT is a guy they have coveted for a while. Made the trade.
Stick to what you know Emily.
I don’t even see a serious argument for Zibanejad over Panarin. It’s definitely not a case I’d try to make.
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Those Knicks trades are good examples of what the Rangers should do with their young players. Package and trade them for upgrades who raise the ceiling of the team , instead of sitting on your hands and praying Miller ever becomes a top 4 defenseman, or Kakko ever becomes a top 6 player, to use a couple, but not the only examples.
