1. yes, it was/is their fault on Robertson because it was/is not good enuf an effort to be even half assed
what a waste of an opportunity, even if it doesn't pan out
epic fail to date
and again, you are NOT getting it
it's like a math equation
there was/is a clear obv indication more of Lindgren, the same no adjustments, was gonna wind up with a declining player now close to worthless
it would have been better to sell high, and get the def return of a high pick, and take a chance that ANYBODY -- Robertson, Mackey, Scanlin, Harpur -- ANYBODY could = acceptable stopgap while they apply benefit of acquiring later 1st for Lindgren into something meaningfully useful, like hopefully another Cuylle.
Instead, Rs mgmt does not bend buckle and break and listen to bern, and until recently squandered such picks on failed win now instead of build
and we are still seeing epic stupidity by favoring vets over youth
let me know if/when you get that...
2. I don't toot my horn b'c I like/want to. I don't do it to massage ego.
I do it b'c I have no choice.
So many people say I was wrong about this/that when FACTS are OTHERWISE.
It is something I am required to do, to document my position, so when all is said and done we can see if I or anybody else had the best position.
But feel free to toot.
We may not turn into Chicago, but maybe we can jazz up this joint!
NO
and after I repudiate your bs nonsense, go to the proverbial/figurative middle of the room and hang your head in shame.
Your desire to embarrass me, call me out deserves full comeuppance.
All of us must stand by what we've said, yours truly included
But you attack w/o accuracy, Such false allegations are unpardonable.
Berard --
I am not vs this kid. I want him to succeed. I want to be wrong about what I've said which is true.
All I've said is, let's not get our hopes up prematurely b'c for him to succeed at a shrimp height of 5'9 if that on a good day, means he is gonna have to be another Marty St. Louis
THAT IS WHAT I ACTUALLY SAID
We are not even a handful of games in, he is not battle tested vs rest of the league finding out about him, and we want to ignore the above reality.
I am happy to give hm benefit of the doubt, and we should get max we can out of him in either use or trade, and I hope for his sake he IS another MSL.
But acknowledge, him doing so would be like odds on an inside straight in poker.
Not impossible, doable, but not good
Rempe
I will cede nothing to idiot Rs mgmt who again need to learn with the bern who is often if not usually right here, and pts out we win more w/Rempe than without him. Kid MUST HAVE nhl level experience to move past growing pains
this up and down is not productive if we wanna be ready for POs
and Vesey is NOT the answer
again, you don't get it
"a 2nd or whatev" is not an insignificant consideration
As I have explained multiple times
smartest play is to extend the window, not go all in on any given season
that is the rule, with rare possible exception(s) not applying here
Whatev Lindgren gave us was not enough
It is not 111% his fault [exclusively] that we did not lift the cup, but bottom line is it was not enuf
it is not likely a project or a vet like Gust. would have offset that BUT
we would have something of value [a high pick] we could either
a) develop ourselves
or
b) use in package to move up for a better prospect still [KAM, Schneider]
No, please, after you
You first,
you stop
I and apparently a bunch of others insist
general strong agree
am open to moving KAM if it makes a dif on a specific deal but don't see moving him in a vacuum is productive
I will post something later on Zib
I think MAYBE, MAYBE we can find a suitable partner if part of a larger deal.
We would have to likely eat half, not just 2m.
That, shoe on the other foot, means acquiring team, if stuck can eat up to 2m on final second retention and can move him
This is presuming Kreid has a heart to heart w/him and he otherwise gets the message, he goes, or he sits.
Also while no one is a sacred cow/untradeable, I would not be inclined to move KK.
LaF for Sanderson, prob yes, but otherwise no on those guys
I think out best offer in totality of circumstances is LA
then want him
they want him hard
the ? is, can we add enuf without gutting ourselves to get them to include Byfield
bold: kudos
this is the listen to bern approach
Not really
if nec, offer more [in zib's case 10 instead of 8.5] BUT have ZERO NMC and sufficiently extensive but not crippling ntcs, on shorter term deals
this would be better than a long term investment and first 2 or so yrs is fine and then this level of crapulence happens
and if player wants to dictate
say forget you
tell em bern says don't let the door hit your ass on the way out if the alternative accommodation is not enuf
if he walks he walks
we can make due w/still talented people who want to be here
while avoiding the nightmare that we are now witnessing coming overnight
Have thoughts on possibly moving Zib
need coffee
later
Agree
unfortunately does not look like he is sufficienty concussed we can permanently LTIR him
Today is too early but this unfortunately is another discussion for this board
Fox won't get himself killed like Lindy, but he will not age well in the sense he will only get slower. Now while that applies to everyone, it does not apply to everyone across the board. Many (pushing most?) NHL players can show enuf speed to have proper reflexes as they make a graceful exit in/approaching mid 30s, tho this is getting harder as younger players are ever better, faster athletes
