Speculation: Roster Building Thread - Part XIII (Nanaki edition)

[IDvsEGO]

Drury can blame himself for giving out NMCs like candy, extending vets far too long or not long enough, and not being willing to walk away when he didn’t get terms that were good for the team because he was under the delusion that we couldn’t live without certain players.

After he traded the first guy who wouldn’t be reasonable with their contract demands the rest would fall in line.

Or no one re-signs. That’s a very double edged sword.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

A past his prime backup being paid pennies vs the guy who rejected 11M a year.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Top Shelf hockey was just implying that Kreiders interview was very odd. He thinks that it seemed like Kreider was going out of his way to tell other teams that he was damaged goods.

Interesting.

I don't know who the f top shelf hockey is but I can tell you that what ever Kreider says has little impact one way or the other.

Teams are going to review his medicals and not just take his word for it. Plus that entire methodology would go out the window the second he returns to playing.

 

[zlev]

It’s almost Messier time me thinks. Not saying I love it but if the players aren’t responding to Drury, Dolan is going to bring in someone who isn’t taking no for an answer.

you think if these guys already dont respect a seasoned veteran coach with a million wins, they're going to listen to someone that has never coached a game in his life just because he won a Cup 30 years ago as a player? asinine.

(not saying i think that is the problem. the problem is that the roster isnt good enough.)

 

[jerseyjinx94]

There’s no path forward for this organization but to trudge along and hope they come around. I just don’t see a realistic way to fix it in season

 

[Savant]

Makes you wonder if Zibanejad has something spinal or otherwise serious going on (likely). In which case we are sort of just f***ed until he decides to retire (unlikely) or his contract is up (2030)

Was at the game tonight. Kept an eye on Mika and two things were painfully obvious for the vast majority of the game

- He is terrified of getting hit
- He isn’t moving his feet while he is skating.

Maybe you can get him to waive for a no state income tax team (since it’ll basically give him a raise) but to can’t imagine the analytics are any better than the eye test here either. They are not far from going to have to waste a buy out here.

This is not the same player that signed that contract. Like we can act like the deal was a mistake in hindsight, but this is not the same guy

 

[mxyxptlk]

Drury can blame himself for giving out NMCs like candy, extending vets far too long or not long enough, and not being willing to walk away when he didn’t get terms that were good for the team because he was under the delusion that we couldn’t live without certain players.

After he traded the first guy who wouldn’t be reasonable with their contract demands the rest would fall in line.

From what I can see, he only gave such clauses to: Zib, , Laffy, Goodrow, Trocheck and Fox. Who am I missing?

 

[Savant]

From what I can see, he only gave such clauses to: Zib, , Laffy, Goodrow, Trocheck and Fox. Who am I missing?

Not Fox.

Lafreniere I think has 8-10 team NTC when new contract kicks in

Trocheck goes from NMC to partial NTC next season

 

[mxyxptlk]

Was at the game tonight. Kept an eye on Mika and two things were painfully obvious for the vast majority of the game

- He is terrified of getting hit
- He isn’t moving his feet while he is skating.

Maybe you can get him to waive for a no state income tax team (since it’ll basically give him a raise) but to can’t imagine the analytics are any better than the eye test here either. They are not far from going to have to waste a buy out here.

This is not the same player that signed that contract. Like we can act like the deal was a mistake in hindsight, but this is not the same guy

The only solution is to get him totally off the roster...unless we get some kind of compliance with the CBA renewal, buyout is just not an option....you're saddled with that salary for 10 years instead of 5.

 

[Savant]

The only solution is to get him totally off the roster...unless we get some kind of compliance with the CBA renewal, buyout is just not an option....you're saddled with that salary for 10 years instead of 5.

I mean I’m not saying any of this is wrong, but he also is, without hyperbole, not one of the Rangers 12 best forwards right now

 

[mxyxptlk]

Not Fox

Fox signed current deal in 2022 -- after Drury had taken over.

Not Fox.

Lafreniere I think has 8-10 team NTC when new contract kicks in

Trocheck goes from NMC to partial NTC next season

I was basically questioning mas0764 comment above: "Drury can blame himself for giving out NMCs like candy, extending vets far too long...."

 

[Savant]

Fox signed current deal in 2022 -- after Drury had taken over.

Correct. But Fox has no NMC/no NTC

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Correct. But Fox has no NMC/no NTC

Not sure why they gave it to the guy that would disappear to start every season over our best player but whatever.

 

[mxyxptlk]

Correct. But Fox has no NMC/no NTC

NMC kicks in for 25-26 and 26-27 at end of this season. Switches to mod-NTC after that.

 

[Savant]

NMC kicks in for 25-26 and 26-27 at end of this season. Switches to mod-NTC after that.

Getting moved at the deadline too then. May as well

 

[RangersFan1994]

The only good thing to take from these bad stretch of games is the young kids are thriving, at least they are scoring and playing well. They are not the issue here.