Speculation: Roster Building Thread - Part XIII (Nanaki edition)

xbure9x

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the problem with equating testosterone levels to laziness, is that it could easily imply that women are naturally lazier than men as they have less natural testosterone...
The bigger issue would probably be having your testosterone (and other hormone) levels below your body's baseline
not to derail this anymore but this is not an accurate statement. Women do not derive their energy, drive and or well being from their testosterone like a man would. Women rely on their estrogen mainly for this. Testosterone plays a role for them as well, but the amount they produce is so minute compared to a man. the main benefit of testosterone for a woman (who is not looking to be a bodybuilder) would be to aid in their sex drive, but in terms of energy and well being, that would be estrogen for them (more involved than that, but the main driver)

Males with low testosterone will 100% feel the effects of it like laziness, lack of motivation, lack of muscle mass, etc. There are exceptions and going too high like a male bodybuilder is obviously not the healthiest either, but there is an optimal range, and when you're in it, you definitely notice it
 
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Kocur Dill

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Am i way off base here?

Trouba-Fox
Jones-Schneider
Miller-Mancini

If Trouba has an ounce of a Captains heart, he needs to be open to playing a Defensive roll on Fox's left. Lets call it a Stevens/Pronger role to Neidermayer.

Fox has been on the ice for a coulple bad goals, but is that his fault? He is what he is and hes great at what he is. Good Cop/Bad Cop works. Bad Cop/Bad Cop works. Good Cop/Good Cop doesnt work. Lindren cant play the Bad Cop role effectively anymore and Miller/Jones aint that guy. That leaves Schneider or Trouba to move Left. Im hesitant to break up Jones/Schneider and Trouba owes the team more than hes giving ATM.

Managment did what they could over the summer, failed due to Trouba utilizing his contractual rights. Fine.

Lavi can do what he is capable of, and that is "Coaching" his Captain to put team above self and try something out of the box because they've tried every other combination and its just not cutting it.

Now, getting our top 6 to buy into a 5 man D Scheme is another issue, but, at this point, desperate times call for desperate measures before this season slips away.
 

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The ole low T argument. What I'm thinking is if we made it to the ECF with low T last year, if we get even lower, sooner, this year, we can go all the way.
 

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Am i way off base here?

Trouba-Fox
Jones-Schneider
Miller-Mancini

If Trouba has an ounce of a Captains heart, he needs to be open to playing a Defensive roll on Fox's left. Lets call it a Stevens/Pronger role to Neidermayer.

Fox has been on the ice for a coulple bad goals, but is that his fault? He is what he is and hes great at what he is. Good Cop/Bad Cop works. Bad Cop/Bad Cop works. Good Cop/Good Cop doesnt work. Lindren cant play the Bad Cop role effectively anymore and Miller/Jones aint that guy. That leaves Schneider or Trouba to move Left. Im hesitant to break up Jones/Schneider and Trouba owes the team more than hes giving ATM.

Managment did what they could over the summer, failed due to Trouba utilizing his contractual rights. Fine.

Lavi can do what he is capable of, and that is "Coaching" his Captain to put team above self and try something out of the box because they've tried every other combination and its just not cutting it.

Now, getting our top 6 to buy into a 5 man D Scheme is another issue, but, at this point, desperate times call for desperate measures before this season slips away.

Trouba as captain has been such a disappointment. Shows no emotion on the ice toward the other team. Feels like he's used his stature to advance his off ice career more than he's actually helped the Rangers win games. Im looking forward to his exit.
 

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Trouba as captain has been such a disappointment. Shows no emotion on the ice toward the other team. Feels like he's used his stature to advance his off ice career more than he's actually helped the Rangers win games. Im looking forward to his exit.
We really were spoiled with Callahan as our captain. The definition of a heart and soul player on the ice.
 

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Trouba as captain has been such a disappointment. Shows no emotion on the ice toward the other team. Feels like he's used his stature to advance his off ice career more than he's actually helped the Rangers win games. Im looking forward to his exit.

He's been ably supported every step of the way in this by the NYR FO. Now all of them have cake on their face, along with fatter bank accounts.
 

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Personally I think Mancini should stay in Hartford and work on his game there. Again I think the pairings with Miller-Fox and Schneider-Trouba are the way to go
 
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He's been ably supported every step of the way in this by the NYR FO. Now all of them have cake on their face, along with fatter bank accounts.

No more mercenaries as captains. Kreider's legacy in my mind is effected by the fact that he never took on the captaincy, which was his birthright as the only homegrown player to make it through the rebuild. It's why we got stuck with Trouba in the role. Kreider would be a great leader for our young players if he didnt have to spend the majority of the time validating Mika's self confidence issues.
 
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This isn’t an insult to McDonagh, but it feels like Callahan was the last Captain that actually embraced the role.

McDonagh's play declined as soon as he was given the C. Brad Richards was never captain but he deserves to be mentioned for his great leadership in 2014 after Torts embarrassed him with that healthy scratch against Boston in the playoffs the year before. That prob was the straw that got Torts fired tbh.
 

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Imo we need to figure out how to aquire a guy like say Ryan Macleod out of Buffalo, skates well, can play up and down the lineup in short stints, wing or center. Someone like that, it's unfortunate but we can't count on Fil anymore. I'm not sure how we'd fit something like that in or how much it would cost but imo if he was added in place of Chytil you'd get 80% of Chytil 100% of the year instead if 100% of Chytil 20% of the year.
I like the idea, Buffalo is a good target. They're looking to shake things up, but I don't know that they'd trade him given they just traded their 9th overall selection for him. I think Krebs would be a really solid target though. Tage and Cozens are their 1 and 2 over there. They brought in McLeod, he's getting more minutes. A large chunk of Krebs' time in Buffalo has been on the 4th line, they've pretty much relegated him to that role. I think there's some untapped potential in him, cheap contract... he's not going to be playing with scrubs over here.

I liked Barbashev in St Louis when he was stuck on their bottom line for years. He's a top 6er now. Sam Bennett was in a similar situation in Calgary. Florida's #2 center now. Aside from Krebs I think there's a few young guys in that position right now.

Jack Drury in Carolina is stuck behind Aho, Kotkaniemi and Staal. He's talented. But I kinda doubt Drury would trade for his own nephew.

If Nashville starts to tear it down they have a treasure trove of pieces. They've been awful with their young players. Tomasino has been a healthy scratch. Change of scenery scenario there. I know he's played wing at the NHL level but I wouldn't be afraid to move him back down the middle. You could go the veteran route. O'Reilly would be a home run. I like Tommy Novak, but he's another one that has some injury concerns. Both cheap contracts.

Mavrik Bourque (DAL) and Hendrix Lapierre (WSH) are both 2020 1st rounders. Both talented, limited usage, healthy scratches this year. They're turning 23 within the next few months. Still plenty young, but the time is ticking. They're a wild card, they're not proven players at this level. Marat Khusnutdinov (MIN) is in the same boat. Same draft year. But he's also a kid that seems tailor-made for a bottom 6 role if the offense doesn't translate
 
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So when you said lazy you meant our guys were struggling with “protein synthesis and nutrient partitioning”?

No, but I do feel it was pretty obvious that my post suggested they lacked vigor and aggression, and that referencing the hormone - present in both males and females - most associated with those traits, whether I was being tongue in cheek or literal, was fairly self explanatory.

However, since you want to be clever about it and cherry pick the least relevant five words in my post, sure, better nutrient partitioning leads to better absorption of essential minerals and proteins, which balances other important hormones in the body, promotes better circulation, better sleep, better recovery, etc. all of which DOES also translate into better performance, hence the reason that steroids are referred to as performance enhancing drugs and banned in professional sports.

If testosterone is the basis of all anabolic steroids and steroids are considered PEDs, than it’s virtually impossible to argue that testosterone is not, by it’s very nature, performance enhancing. What are the symptoms of low testosterone? Lethargy, lack of drive, decreased muscle mass, easier weight gain, loss of libido, generally less athletic or energized performance in life. So once again, whether literally or figuratively, the exact traits associated with higher testosterone (or PED use) are the traits that many of our players demonstrate a lack of.
 

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Have you watched Zegras in the nhl? I wouldn't trade Kakko for him at this point. What is everyone's obsession with Zegras? He's everything we have complained about our roster for years, he has great hand but is passive, likely to disappear in playoffs, not to mention, he just hasn't showed he's a skilled nhl player yet and likely the reason Anaheim can't get their rebuild moving forward. I don't get this move at all.
I've watched a few Ducks games recently. Zegras actually looks pretty good now that Cronin put him back at center. His stat line sucks obviously, but the team is a total mess.

The Ducks have 7-8 guys age 23 and under playing significant minutes, and much of this inexperience is at crucial positions: center and defense. When the puck is in the offensive zone, they aren't poised enough to cycle and generate high quality chances. They have too many guys opting for low quality shots (ex: Cutter Gauthier shooting it from 40ft away all of the time) or turning it over, which kills the play. Then in the D zone, the young guys get exposed. Jackson LaCombe might actually be the worst D in the league right now, not Lindgren.

I think Zegras also is pissed at the Ducks for whatever happened during the contract negotiations and wants out. I wouldn't say he's dogging it, but a change of scenery is what he needs.

Furthermore, do you really want to roll with Brodzinsky as your 3C for the rest of the year? Othmann hasn't shown us much at 5v5. He could still turn into a really good player, but we already have Perreault and Berard in the system and close to NHL ready. Othmann played with McTavish in Switzerland during COVID. Verbeek likes pricks who finish checks. Trouba and Kakko are probably on the outs next summer, and trading them should help us recoup some draft capital.

Also unlike pretty much every other team, the Ducks have too many centers. They almost traded Zegras and a 2nd for Logan Mailloux and a 1st at the draft (basically 2 late 1sts). Othmann and a 1st should be more than enough for Zegras. Add in Lindgren and the Ducks can keep their 2nd rounder for 50% retention on Fowler, who is reportedly looking for a trade. IDK I could be biased being a Rangers fan, but I think this deal is feasible.
 
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Miller is officially at the top of the shit-list, between his awful positioning, his egregious turnovers, and his lazy nonchalant style of play on an almost nightly basis now, he's devolved into a MAJOR problem on the back-end only rivaled by the rapidly aging Lindgren. The good news is he will continue to hold some value because of his age and build, the bad news is every other GM sees just how much of a nuisance he can really be.
 

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I've watched a few Ducks games recently. Zegras actually looks pretty good now that Cronin put him back at center. His stat line sucks obviously, but the team is a total mess.

The Ducks have 7-8 guys age 23 and under playing significant minutes, and much of this inexperience is at crucial positions: center and defense. When the puck is in the offensive zone, they aren't poised enough to cycle and generate high quality chances. They have too many guys opting for low quality shots (ex: Cutter Gauthier shooting it from 40ft away all of the time) or turning it over, which kills the play. Then in the D zone, the young guys get exposed. Jackson LaCombe might actually be the worst D in the league right now, not Lindgren.

I think Zegras also is pissed at the Ducks for whatever happened during the contract negotiations and wants out. I wouldn't say he's dogging it, but a change of scenery is what he needs.

Miller for Zegras. Who says no?

Miller can be the long term 1D for a team with a few ex-teammates and no pressure. Zegras can come back home and get serious about his preparation under Kreider's wing. Also protects us from future Chytil injuries. Both guys need a change of scenery bad.
 

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Miller for Zegras. Who says no?

Miller can be the long term 1D for a team with a few ex-teammates and no pressure. Zegras can come back home and get serious about his preparation under Kreider's wing. Also protects us from future Chytil injuries. Both guys need a change of scenery bad.
The problem with trading Miller is that we have nobody else to play LD. I'd rather keep Miller than trade him and give more minutes to Lindgren.
 

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this is heresy and would never happen but id move lindgren and othmann for zegras and then move perreault for a stud ELC left Dman.
 
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I mentioned Fowler and Zegras for Lindgren, Othmann and a 1st this past summer. I think that's a good trade. Like I said then, you can't rely on Chytil. At any position, but especially Center. Even if he is OK, I'd still make this trade.
 
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The ship be sinking..Lavy is stuck and if he gets tough they will tune him out further. I would clean house. Igor, Trocheck,Kreider, Lindgren all for futures. Easy 3ea 1st rders coming back plus more picks and youth. Cap space will be wide open and then sign players who win in the playoffs. Its boring looking at this team playing harlem globetrotter hockey. Drury needs to do some major renovation before he is axed. DO NOT GIVE IGOR 11.5M!!!!!
 
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The ship be sinking..Lavy is stuck and if he gets tough they will tune him out further. I would clean house. Igor, Trocheck,Kreider, Lindgren all for futures. Easy 3ea 1st rders coming back plus more picks and youth. Cap space will be wide open and then sign players who win in the playoffs. Its boring looking at this team playing harlem globetrotter hockey. Drury needs to do some major renovation before he is axed. DO NOT GIVE IGOR 11.5M!!!!!
No gm is gonna clear house for his successor.
Ever.

That’s often why unless a gm knows he’ll be around to use the picks they will push the problem down the road.
 

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