Speculation: Roster Building Thread - Part XIII (Nanaki edition)

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Question, is this season more 2021-22 when the team started the season getting outplayed in every game but Igor stole them victories but they got better as the season went on or 2015-16 where they started the season getting outplayed with Hank stealing them victories and then fell off a damn cliff?

The 2015-16 parallel with the previous year us winning the PT is scary but also probably largely coincidental.
 

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this is from last year?


For the record, I dont mind paying Igor his $$$ and yes he’s awesome to watch but he also masks a lot of deficiencies that are ultimately exposed in the playoffs - its been like this for over a decade. I want a legitimate contender.

The Rangers are a legit contender. More legit than any other team in their division. IMO they are top two with Florida in the East. The Panthers have more dependable firepower IMO than we do but winning the Cup last year also forced an exodus of some of their depth this year. Panthers don't have a lot of organizational depth.

For the Rangers---we can beat teams like Carolina in playoffs---we should be able to beat teams like the Devils. The Maple Leafs tend to beat themselves. The Bruins seem somewhat discombobulated this year. The Lightning are dangerous but on the downside. The Rangers have to figure out how to at least battle guys like Matthew Tkachuk and Barkov to a standstill or close to a draw. Zibanejad did not match Barkov....we had issues with the Panthers forecheck led by Tkachuk and Bennett. We lost but without great goaltending by Igor it would have been a slaughter---not one goal losses.

There is no particular formula for what makes a team a contender. You just need 4/5/6 great players at different positions along with good depth throughout. The likelihood of winning without very good goaltending though is not very great.
 

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It doesn't matter if you're in the top 2 if you can't compete with #1. We've demonstrated that we're not really close to Florida at all.
 

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Here's a thought, Detroit is floundering (surprise!) and they signed Gustafsson to a 2 years x $2m contract. In terms of a bottom-pairing veteran d-man, the team could do far worse. Especially if Yzerbum is having buyers remorse and will send him away for nothing. I know he's not perfect but he was a net positive for the team last year and would be a nice, cheap insurance policy for next season as a veteran depth d-man.

Thoughts?
 

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The Rangers are a legit contender. More legit than any other team in their division. IMO they are top two with Florida in the East. The Panthers have more dependable firepower IMO than we do but winning the Cup last year also forced an exodus of some of their depth this year. Panthers don't have a lot of organizational depth.

For the Rangers---we can beat teams like Carolina in playoffs---we should be able to beat teams like the Devils. The Maple Leafs tend to beat themselves. The Bruins seem somewhat discombobulated this year. The Lightning are dangerous but on the downside. The Rangers have to figure out how to at least battle guys like Matthew Tkachuk and Barkov to a standstill or close to a draw. Zibanejad did not match Barkov....we had issues with the Panthers forecheck led by Tkachuk and Bennett. We lost but without great goaltending by Igor it would have been a slaughter---not one goal losses.

There is no particular formula for what makes a team a contender. You just need 4/5/6 great players at different positions along with good depth throughout. The likelihood of winning without very good goaltending though is not very great.
This is 100% correct. Rangers have issues defending and playing fundamentally sound, but other teams have flaws too, and in some cases bigger. Florida plays so solid they are the new TBL basically. Not much you can do, since no other team in the East could do that either.
 

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It doesn't matter if you're in the top 2 if you can't compete with #1. We've demonstrated that we're not really close to Florida at all.
No guarantee we play Florida. Upsets happen all the time. Enjoy the ride. Unless that's not your thing.

And who knows, Bob could throw up a couple of stinkers next series and change it all. Every year is a different crapshoot.
 

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Here's a thought, Detroit is floundering (surprise!) and they signed Gustafsson to a 2 years x $2m contract. In terms of a bottom-pairing veteran d-man, the team could do far worse. Especially if Yzerbum is having buyers remorse and will send him away for nothing. I know he's not perfect but he was a net positive for the team last year and would be a nice, cheap insurance policy for next season as a veteran depth d-man.

Thoughts?
This is one of those situations where I like the player, but I don't like the player enough to endure people complaining about him.
 

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I think it's less about what player we're trying to bring back and simply addition buy subtraction here. I know the organization loves Lindgren. I know Fox and Lindgren are friends. But we should have moved on this summer. He shouldn't be on the top line and we shouldn't be paying that for a 3rd pair player that should be on rotation.
 

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The usual suspects are going to whine and complain all year on our way to 50+ wins, but if we stay mostly healthy there are only 2 teams I think can beat us. Florida and Edmonton. If the Rangers add a top 4 defenseman and match the intensity of Florida in a head to head matchup, I like our chances.
 

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This is one of those situations where I like the player, but I don't like the player enough to endure people complaining about him.

That's fair. I think he was a good bottom-pairing d-man and as I started looking around at options for next year within the price range the Rangers likely can afford, I was like, why not Gustaffson? Good with the puck. Not a shrinking violet. Has some warts but overall a net positive
 

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