At the beginning of the offseason when posted that Igor might be asking for 11.5 I received pushback.At 8.25m, Shesterkin is around 1,400,000 more in taxes signing here than in Dallas, per year. Obviously, we don't know signing bonus, and then you'll have to figure out the breakdown on which teams they play, although Dallas is more favorable in that area consider they play multiple games against teams like Nashville, Seattle and Vegas. Add in a living and life style expenses and it's easy to see how much more a player would need to make in NY to match Dallas. With that I still stick with the thought process that it's just too much.
If you say Shesterkin is worth 9.5 in Dallas, than he needs to sign for way over 12.5 to make the difference. (That is obviously dependent on multiple things)
Sure but Vesey and Brodzinski aren’t being dressed for their physicality. Different roles. I still think a shorthand situation every three games is not too often… especially considering role.The other issue is I don't think these penalties are a new thing. Just looking at his AHL numbers he played 43 games last year and had PIM (not divisible by 5) in 16 of them. That's a ton of penalties. I'm excluding the ones divisible by 5 since those were likely fights. The year before that was 15/53.
So ~31 times causing his team to be shorthanded in 96 games. That is not good for a depth player who isn't going to play much or help you out on special teams. That's like the equivalent of an additional 5-6 goals against with an 80% PK. It's also a large increase over the alternative when you consider that Brodzinski has 42 PIM in his career and Vesey averages ~20/year.
The dumb thing is that it's not gonna reset the market. Who's next behind Igor who is gonna command that money after Ottenger, Ullmark and Swayman signed in the 8s? Imo we're the only ones who are gonna have a 11+ goalie for the foreseeable future.As much as I love Igor, I’d pull the 8x$11M from the table. He’s worth it, but we’re not in a position to give a completely market-resetting deal
No no youre missing it, its "an additional shorthanded situation"Sure but Vesey and Brodzinski aren’t being dressed for their physicality. Different roles. I still think a shorthand situation every three games is not too often… especially considering role.
Shesterkin at 12M is nearly the same take home pay as Oettinger at 8.25M.
Flat rate of 4.55%.What's the tax code like in Utah...?
Igor is much better than those guysI'm a little peeved that everyone else is signing their goalies in the 8's and we're here hoping our guy signs for 11.5. And it's not the actual dollar I'm annoyed at, it's that Shesterkin, knowing where this teams stands cap wise, is willing to handicap us for competing against teams like Dallas, Boston, etc. I believe Igor is a top 2 or 3 goalie in the league, but I also don't think he can replace 4 million dollars worth of extra offense or defense, or maybe even more if you saved it for the deadline. Personally I think Garand is an nhl starter, maybe not now but in a year or two. How much better or worse are we in 2 years with Igor vs dylan? This year is the issue for now, I don't know where to go with this.
He probably thinks folks in Texas don’t even pay federal taxes, bastards.I'm not an expert on American taxes, but even I know taxes don't work that way.
The "no state tax" teams have a slight benefit, but it's not the difference of 4M AAV
This. Who’s a goalie who’s at this level and will be signing new contract within the next couple of years? I’d give Shesterkin $11+m per but seeing where all other goalies are coming at indicates that market is not over $11mThe dumb thing is that it's not gonna reset the market. Who's next behind Igor who is gonna command that money after Ottenger, Ullmark and Swayman signed in the 8s? Imo we're the only ones who are gonna have a 11+ goalie for the foreseeable future.