Roster Building Thread - Part XII

[dshea19]

The painfully obvious thing from yesterday's game is that Kakko is still slow. Cuylle looked like a race car compared to him.

 

[Zynbanejad]

I'm so excited for Mancini lmao love his game

 

[cheech70]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1838265895598047263

Gauntlet has been sprung.....Igor the IceMan......

 

[TominNC]

It’s the exact same team and issues as last year. Doesn’t matter about the 1 young guy who is going to make the roster. Also who cares about the f***ing deadline, we have no more picks to give up lol and we will be retooling next year when this core fails again.

I know I’m being negative but this is the same trash as last year.

Also, trouba should be booed because he sucks a bag of dicks at hockey. Not because of anything else.

How miserable

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

Negotiations won’t be happening during the year until Drury realizes Igor has them by the balls and just accepts his fate. At which point negotiations will resume

Guarantee they don’t go into next summer without a deal. Drury said as much that they’re priority is to re-sign him

 

[LOFIN]

Negotiations won’t be happening during the year until Drury realizes Igor has them by the balls and just accepts his fate. At which point negotiations will resume

Guarantee they don’t go into next summer without a deal. Drury said as much that they’re priority is to re-sign him

I frankly think Drury has nothing to lose by letting this play out, unless Igor would somehow take offence to not being a priority and force himself to free-agency because of it.

Look, even if Igor will have the most mind-bogglingly good season there has been in the history of goaltending, how does that improve his position if he's already asking for the biggest contract in goaltending history? On the other hand, if doesn't play well, Drury might be able to lower the price.

By the nature of the position and what Igor is reportedly asking, I think it's actually Drury's advantage the further this goes along. Unless, like I said, Igor would somehow take offence and deliberately want out of New York. And let's face it, not that many people want out of New York.

 

[Ruggs225]

I frankly think Drury has nothing to lose by letting this play out, unless Igor would somehow take offence to not being a priority and force himself to free-agency because of it.

Look, even if Igor will have the most mind-bogglingly good season there has been in the history of goaltending, how does that improve his position if he's already asking for the biggest contract in goaltending history? On the other hand, if doesn't play well, Drury might be able to lower the price.

By the nature of the position and what Igor is reportedly asking, I think it's actually Drury's advantage the further this goes along. Unless, like I said, Igor would somehow take offence and deliberately want out of New York. And let's face it, not that many people want out of New York.

Exactly.

And what teams can actually afford him with his demands. Certainly not most (if not all) contenders. Does he really want to go a rebuilding team?

 

[Fitzy]

I'll admit I've never understood why it's considered so difficult for an agent and GM to debate contracts while a player plays.

Maybe risk and uncertainty with injuries?

 

[The Crypto Guy]

I'll admit I've never understood why it's considered so difficult for an agent and GM to debate contracts while a player plays.

Maybe risk and uncertainty with injuries?

I think it’s more of a mental thing. They dont want outside distractions that could hinder his game (both sides).

 

[Beer League Sniper]

I'll admit I've never understood why it's considered so difficult for an agent and GM to debate contracts while a player plays.

Maybe risk and uncertainty with injuries?

I'm pretty sure this is a negotiation tactic by the agent. It creates an artificial deadline and a sense of urgency.

 

[bernmeister]

Negotiations won’t be happening during the year until Drury realizes Igor has them by the balls and just accepts his fate. At which point negotiations will resume

Guarantee they don’t go into next summer without a deal. Drury said as much that they’re priority is to re-sign him

Or, speaking of balls, we could go full bern and do something like
Shesty + Zib +
for
Nylander ++

 

[Chalfdiggity3]

How miserable

I like to live in reality. This is the truth of the team and trouba should be booed bc of his play on the ice, nothing more. I mean I can hope for a better season. But what’s the saying, you can shit in one hand and hope in the other and see what happens first.

 

[Cmox]

I'm feeling if they do re-sign him it'll be the very last minute. We'll go through a myriad of arguments and trade proposals.

 

[Fitzy]

I'm feeling if they do re-sign him it'll be the very last minute. We'll go through a myriad of arguments and trade proposals.

This could plausibly be the last year before we blow it up if the playoffs are a disappointment again.

I don’t think it’s super likely? But I’d rather not start a new rebuild with a 8x100 contract at goalie.

I love Igor and hope we retires here but I think we can wait until the offseason to decide

 

[TominNC]

I like to live in reality. This is the truth of the team and trouba should be booed bc of his play on the ice, nothing more. I mean I can hope for a better season. But what’s the saying, you can shit in one hand and hope in the other and see what happens first.

Miserable people find ways to be miserable. They can’t enjoy winning way more than losing over a long season. They can’t enjoy deep playoff runs. Instead they must find someone to boo and reasons to be negative. They call this ‘reality’. I call it sad and pathetic.

 

[Synergy27]

Really hoping some of these new faces will lead us to the promised land.

 

[pld459666]

The Toronto Maple Leafs are the very definition of "running it back", and even they are making some lineup changes lol...

they need to NOT run it back.

I'd much rather run it back with our group, then with theirs.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

Or, speaking of balls, we could go full bern and do something like
Shesty + Zib +
for
Nylander ++

Like where your head is at bern

big changes require big balls

 

[Irishguy42]

I'm just here for the Tony DeAngelo to SKA discourse

 

[Alluckks]

I'm just here for the Tony DeAngelo to SKA discourse

Georgiev burnout and signed to same team as Tony please

 

[Kaapo Cabana]

I also think it's just a tactic by the agent, makes too much sense. Whichever camp starts to lose leverage will want to restart negotiations.

I will say though that if the worse case scenario happens, and Igor leaves for nothing in free agency, there is a bit of a silver lining. We would be heading into the 2025 offseason with Igor, Trouba, and likely Lindgren coming off the books and probably another cap increase.

I'd rather have Igor, but having ~ 20M in cap space next offseason is a luxury that not many "win now" teams have had in the cap era.

 

[DuneGoon84]

I hope Drury doesn't bite. Let him play this season out.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

I hope Drury doesn't bite. Let him play this season out.

And let him walk for nothing? No thanks. The longer we wait the longer he can up his demands. Or we can have a shit show at the trade deadline and lose any chance we have at the cup.

 

[IDvsEGO]

And let him walk for nothing? No thanks. The longer we wait the longer he can up his demands. Or we can have a shit show at the trade deadline and lose any chance we have at the cup.

If you think we’re not in playoff position at the deadline I’ve got a bridge to sell you

 

[Shesterkybomb]

The problem with the Kreider/Zibanejad line is that it has both Kreider and Mika on it.

That duo works well at springing each other for rushes on counter attacks. This makes them fantastic on the PK.
It doesn't work so well at 5v5 when maintaining possession is important.

They need to be split up.

I agree but we've been through 3 coaches and none of them wanna do it.

The painfully obvious thing from yesterday's game is that Kakko is still slow. Cuylle looked like a race car compared to him.

I agree, his biggest hurdle is his speed, if he can improve that everything else falls in place