Roster Building Thread - Part XII(Training Camp/Preseason)

[eco's bones]

He threw some hits, could defend and was underrated in his offensive game,, early in his career but when challenged sadly another bigger dman that couldn't fight out of a paper bag

Back to when he was good

Jamal Mayers was a legit light heavy back then. Semin not much at all at that. Mayers also gets the jump on Staal there. None of the Staal's were ever particularly good at defending themselves though. Mayers seemed like a guy who would fight 8-10 times a year for a bunch of years. It wouldn't shock me at all if I were to go to hockeyfights he'd have over 100 listed.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

He threw some hits, could defend and was underrated in his offensive game,, early in his career but when challenged sadly another bigger dman that couldn't fight out of a paper bag

Back to when he was good

Who gives a shit if he could fight? Fighting has barely been a thing for the last 20 years and that's not his role.

 

[bernmeister]

Again, another stupid idiot who suggests trade youth [Schneid] + for a vet
NO NO NO

hopefully we denounce these losers repeatedly, they won't go there at sq 1

Rangers add Golden Knights standout defender in blockbuster mock trade

The New York Rangers fell short of winning the 2024 NHL Stanley Cup, and fittingly so, a recent mock trade gifts them with a star defenseman who would help ensure that such a fate has a low probability of replicating itself in 2024-2025.

www.yardbarker.com

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

I actually like Theodore so I wouldn’t be opposed to him

 

[eco's bones]

Again, another stupid idiot who suggests trade youth [Schneid] + for a vet
NO NO NO

hopefully we denounce these losers repeatedly, they won't go there at sq 1

Rangers add Golden Knights standout defender in blockbuster mock trade

The New York Rangers fell short of winning the 2024 NHL Stanley Cup, and fittingly so, a recent mock trade gifts them with a star defenseman who would help ensure that such a fate has a low probability of replicating itself in 2024-2025.

www.yardbarker.com

It's just some random fan's bright idea. I don't see it happening for several reasons. Last year the Zibanejad line at 5v5 had issues with its RW. None of Kakko, Wheeler, Roslovic were really good enough which is why the move for Reilly Smith. So take him away and there is good likelihood we have the same problem all over again.

We also have questions about our defensive depth and trading a younger and healthy D for an injury prone vet is not how you solve that kind of issue.

Denisenko at this point is a failed prospect. He had a productive year in the AHL last year but he's a 2018 draft---(Kakko was a 2019 to put that in perspective) with 32 NHL games and 0 goals after 4 years of plugging away in North America. Does he still have a chance to become an NHL player? Yeah....probably but I wouldn't expect he's going to be any kind of a world beater and we have plenty of very good prospect forwards already. I don't think he adds much to our organization that we don't already have plenty of.

So Schneider and our possible top 6 RW solution and a 1st rounder for an injury prone vet and a prospect who's yet to make any real impact 6 years after he was drafted---I don't think that's got much chance of happening.

 

[TGWL]

Sounds very juicy for a UFA.

 

[Fitzy]

The same amount of time that passed between the NYR Stanley cup championship and the Marc Staal Alex Semin fight has now passed between that fight and today.

We're old fellas

 

[Shesterkybomb]

Imo this is a must win year, once Igor's next contract hits its gonna be real tough. The unfortunate part of all of this is that we'll need young players more than ever after next year and if we're to go for it this year it will be at the cost of draft picks

 

[TGWL]

Imo this is a must win year, once Igor's next contract hits its gonna be real tough. The unfortunate part of all of this is that we'll need young players more than ever after next year and if we're to go for it this year it will be at the cost of draft picks

@bernmeister Don't read this post.

 

[Profet]

Fowler for Trouba straight up... who says no? (Provided Mrs Trouba says yes).

 

[LiveLongandProspal]

Fowler for Trouba straight up... who says no? (Provided Mrs Trouba says yes).

They both suck, but Fowler doesn't help us in any way. At least Trouba provides a physical presence. I'd rather see what Zac Jones can do instead of trading for Fowler.

 

[RangersFan1994]

Who gives a shit if he could fight? Fighting has barely been a thing for the last 20 years and that's not his role.

So when a player gets challenged after a clean hit you rsther him not fight or get attacked and turtle. If a player threw a clean hit, he has to be able to back it up.

Again, another stupid idiot who suggests trade youth [Schneid] + for a vet
NO NO NO

hopefully we denounce these losers repeatedly, they won't go there at sq 1

Rangers add Golden Knights standout defender in blockbuster mock trade

The New York Rangers fell short of winning the 2024 NHL Stanley Cup, and fittingly so, a recent mock trade gifts them with a star defenseman who would help ensure that such a fate has a low probability of replicating itself in 2024-2025.

www.yardbarker.com

Awful trade

 

[EdJovanovski]

"I loved Rempe's summer" - Elliot Friedman

 

[RempireStateBuilding]

So when a player gets challenged after a clean hit you rsther him not fight or get attacked and turtle. If a player threw a clean hit, he has to be able to back it up.


Awful trade

Re: Bold #1: Yes.

Re: Bold #2: No. Refer to answer to Bold #1.

 

[cwede]

If a player threw a clean hit, he has to be able to back it up.

why? you said it was a clean hit

league has to clamp down, more consistently, against guys who instigate(attack) after a teammate fields a hit

 

[TominNC]

If you throw. A hit that’s not penalized then anyone attacking you should receive a major.
Have to stop this nonsense.

 

[RangersFan1994]

why? you said it was a clean hit

league has to clamp down, more consistently, against guys who instigate(attack) after a teammate fields a hit

They won’t so this will still become an issue. I rather have a player who hits and backs up then hits, taunts and skates away like Steve Webb. Remember him.

 

[SA16]

Yes, you should not fight and turtle and draw a PP for your team.

 

[TGWL]

So when a player gets challenged after a clean hit you rsther him not fight or get attacked and turtle. If a player threw a clean hit, he has to be able to back it up.


Awful trade

So Staal should have trained in the offseason on becoming a better fighter because of a chance somebody might take a hit personal and fight? It's not like Staal threw big hits each game picking his spots to really lay into somebody. There was a lot to knock Staal on, but this one is a big reach.

 

[majordomo]

Imo this is a must win year, once Igor's next contract hits its gonna be real tough. The unfortunate part of all of this is that we'll need young players more than ever after next year and if we're to go for it this year it will be at the cost of draft picks

What draft picks? We barely have any left for the next few years (especially seconds).

 

[NYR Viper]

What draft picks? We barely have any left for the next few years (especially seconds).

What is a 'second' that you speak of?

 

[SnowblindNYR]

They won’t so this will still become an issue. I rather have a player who hits and backs up then hits, taunts and skates away like Steve Webb. Remember him.

Just watch boxing or UFC.

 

[bernmeister]

I actually like Theodore so I wouldn’t be opposed to him

maybe but not at cost of Schneider
that's subtraction by addition

It's just some random fan's bright idea. I don't see it happening for several reasons. Last year the Zibanejad line at 5v5 had issues with its RW. None of Kakko, Wheeler, Roslovic were really good enough which is why the move for Reilly Smith. So take him away and there is good likelihood we have the same problem all over again.

We also have questions about our defensive depth and trading a younger and healthy D for an injury prone vet is not how you solve that kind of issue.

Denisenko at this point is a failed prospect. He had a productive year in the AHL last year but he's a 2018 draft---(Kakko was a 2019 to put that in perspective) with 32 NHL games and 0 goals after 4 years of plugging away in North America. Does he still have a chance to become an NHL player? Yeah....probably but I wouldn't expect he's going to be any kind of a world beater and we have plenty of very good prospect forwards already. I don't think he adds much to our organization that we don't already have plenty of.

So Schneider and our possible top 6 RW solution and a 1st rounder for an injury prone vet and a prospect who's yet to make any real impact 6 years after he was drafted---I don't think that's got much chance of happening.

full concur my friend but I want the idiots who come up with this nonsense to get blowback and incur my wrath

@bernmeister Don't read this post.

too late
they will listen to me and not squander picks or not and go there
But as we have seen, bern usually right rentals/short term adds not usually worth it

Fowler for Trouba straight up... who says no? (Provided Mrs Trouba says yes).

No
Draft picks for trouba, add Mancini or what's his name

 

[majordomo]

What is a 'second' that you speak of?

Always liked that phrase -- although my version is "What is this "second" of which thou speaketh?" -- We geezers roll that way!!!!

 

[RangersFan1994]