Speculation: Roster Building Thread Part XI: We can read between the lines

[Amazing Kreiderman]

AND THEY HAVE NIEVES SITTING IN THE MINORS. What the ****?

I loathe this organization.

You say that as if Nieves is some superstar. He's a 4th line center at best.

 

[Avery16]

You say that as if Nieves is some superstar. He's a 4th line center at best.

Sure, but McLeod a 6th line winger at best. No slot for either right now, so not worth the bellyache.

 

[RangerBoy]

I'm really loving the new Larry Brooks.

This last piece seems theres a bit more to it then speculation.

His source is probably Sather or someone in upper management. Brooks wrote he has it “on good authority” that the Rangers are planning to make major changes. Sather always talks to Larry.

 

[Vinny DeAngelo]

I think mcdonagh at his cap hit for a year and a half brings back:
-1st round
-1st round
-quality prospect

Zucc should return:
-2nd
-2nd
-middling prospect

 

[UAGoalieGuy]

I think mcdonagh at his cap hit for a year and a half brings back:
-1st round
-1st round
-quality prospect

Zucc should return:
-2nd
-2nd
-middling prospect

McD will get a top prospect ready to make the jump next year or a very good NHL level player on an ELC plus a first.

With the direction the Rangers are going in, they can retain 50% on both McD and Zucc. Both those guys for 2 playoff runs at a cap hit around $2.25MM? Value will be through the roof.

 

[Vinny DeAngelo]

McD will get a top prospect ready to make the jump next year or a very good NHL level player on an ELC plus a first.

With the direction the Rangers are going in, they can retain 50% on both McD and Zucc. Both those guys for 2 playoff runs at a cap hit around $2.25MM? Value will be through the roof.

I don’t think we’ll be able to get all that for Mcdonagh because every team seems to be so in on the youth and building for the long run

 

[UAGoalieGuy]

I don’t think we’ll be able to get all that for Mcdonagh because every team seems to be so in on the youth and building for the long run

He is a piece that can be added to a young core for the long run. Can't have all kids playing. His experience in the playoffs and skill set can be used to mentor the younger players on a contender.

Remember he's 28 years old and will be 29 next season.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

I don’t think we’ll be able to get all that for Mcdonagh because every team seems to be so in on the youth and building for the long run

A team like Carolina has so much youth, they can trade some of it away. Same goes for Winnipeg. There are teams who can afford to trade away bluechip prospects for top-pair defense

 

[Lion Hound]

I think mcdonagh at his cap hit for a year and a half brings back:
-1st round
-1st round
-quality prospect

Zucc should return:
-2nd
-2nd
-middling prospect

I think Zucc will get a first and a 2nd

 

[UAGoalieGuy]

Was the last time a very good to star player dealt at the deadline that has another year left? Yandle? It doesn't happen too frequently unless my mind is failing me this morning.

Zucc will have a 1st in his trade unless the prospect or young NHL player coming back has very high potential.

 

[Guyute]

I think Colorado would be a good landing spot for McDonagh. They have some solid young assets and three first round picks in the next two drafts. McD and EJ would make a solid first pair.

 

[Vinny DeAngelo]

I think Zucc will get a first and a 2nd

I don’t think Zucc gets anymore than what we paid for Eric staal.

 

[UAGoalieGuy]

I think Colorado would be a good landing spot for McDonagh. They have some solid young assets and three first round picks in the next two drafts. McD and EJ would make a solid first pair.

According to Friedman they may be trading Barrie so if they were going that direction I doubt they'd make a trade for McD. Who knows though.

 

[Vinny DeAngelo]

I think Colorado would be a good landing spot for McDonagh. They have some solid young assets and three first round picks in the next two drafts. McD and EJ would make a solid first pair.

Why would Colorado want to trade any of their young guys when they’re not anywhere near a contender

 

[UAGoalieGuy]

I don’t think Zucc gets anymore than what we paid for Eric staal.

Staal was a pending UFA.

 

[Vinny DeAngelo]

A team like Carolina has so much youth, they can trade some of it away. Same goes for Winnipeg. There are teams who can afford to trade away bluechip prospects for top-pair defense

I don’t think either of those teams are a Defenseman away. Especially Carolina. Carolina is more of a spot for zucc than mcdonagh

 

[Vinny DeAngelo]

Staal was a pending UFA.

Staal was also an elite center who was having a down year. That’d be pretty near zuccarellos production

 

[UAGoalieGuy]

Staal was also an elite center who was having a down year. That’d be pretty near zuccarellos production

So by that comparison, they'd be equal. Staal was having the worst year of his career if I remember right.

Zucc having that extra year of control plus the ability to have retention would have his value over Staal.

I think you are a Staal type deal for Nash.

 

[haohmaru]

Staal was also an elite center who was having a down year. That’d be pretty near zuccarellos production

The speculation was that Staal was "done" in a lot of NHL circles. I don't think anyone is talking about Zuccarello being "done" + he's got a year+ left on a friendly contract.

I think he gets more that what Staal got for Carolina. We'll see.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

I don’t think either of those teams are a Defenseman away. Especially Carolina. Carolina is more of a spot for zucc than mcdonagh

Tampa seems to be a good trade partner for Zuccarello in my opinion. They should be buyers at the deadline. Get Zuccarello for 1.5 years at 50% retained can be huge for them.

 

[RangerBoy]

Staal was also an elite center who was having a down year. That’d be pretty near zuccarellos production

Staal had a no trade clause and would only waive for the Rangers and Chicago.

 

[UAGoalieGuy]

Rangers should be looking for:

• McD: Top prospect And 1st or Very good young NHL player and a pick.
• Zucc: Good prospect and a 1st.
• Nash: Two seconds plus a prospect.
• Grabner: 1st.
• Holden: 3rd.
• DD: mid round pick.

 

[Vinny DeAngelo]

Tampa seems to be a good trade partner for Zuccarello in my opinion. They should be buyers at the deadline. Get Zuccarello for 1.5 years at 50% retained can be huge for them.

Good point. Zucc could slot into their 3rd line. They’d have crazy depth

 

[HatTrick Swayze]

According to Friedman they may be trading Barrie so if they were going that direction I doubt they'd make a trade for McD. Who knows though.

Not for nothing but he NYR have been linked to Barrie in the past, going back to the MDZ trade. Possible he could come back in the deal.

 

[Vinny DeAngelo]

Not for nothing but he NYR have been linked to Barrie in the past, going back to the MDZ trade. Possible he could come back in the deal.

They’re trading Barrie because they don’t want to pay him on his next deal... they’d literally just get the same issue with mcdonagh