Roster Building Thread - Part XI (Off-season edition)

[GoAwayPanarin]

Also as far as trading Igor goes... for me Henrik has nothing to do with it. 13% for Hank wasn't the issue. 17% for Dan and Marc was. You could've had Hank at his number and had a cup-worthy roster. Hank just accidentally made a bunch of horrible players rich alongside him.

Yuppppp.

The worst part of that is it was 17% to those 2 who had already shown signs of decline even before they were extended (especially Staal.)

It's insane that they are willing to make the same mistake with Lindgren who won't eat as much cap but still presents the problem of having a sub optimal player in the lineup most likely playing 2 pairs above where he belongs.

 

[Filthy Dangles]

There’s a lot of talk about the player’s emotions here. Yeah, they’re human, we get it.

All of that said, how can these guys not have any negative emotions for Trouba after he embarrassed himself and the franchise all throughout the playoffs? Throwing and missing on wildly dangerous hits. Constantly taking himself out of the play. Narrowly avoiding suspensions for egregious elbows. Penalty after penalty.

For all this talk about leadership, the guy plays one of the most selfish games I have ever seen. I would be PISSED if I was a teammate given Trouba’s critical role in pissing away a real chance at the Cup.

I still can’t believe this dude has an $8M cap hit and is the captain of the team. It’s ridiculous and it sucks to be us.

The bolded simply don't represent reality in any way, at least and espeically not from the Players' PoV. Even from a fan's point of view they are hyperbolic at best.

No one player loses a series, Trouba wasn't why they lost and there's plenty of blame to go around. He sucked, so did many others.

If you think or expect his teammates might actually or should want him gone based off his play in that series/season or because he makes too much money, and that they think they can't win a championship because of him, it's simply beyond delusional.

 

[McRanger92]

Takes awhile to get 18000 people to boo the team during a 114 point season

I was at Game 5 against Florida. They definitely got booed off the ice after the 2nd. We're there.

 

[PuckLuck3043]

Great win more regular season awards and we can keep being the Dallas cowboys of the nhl.


With a round 1 or 2 exit yup. Sounds right for this group as usual

You act like they were one and done. They won 10 playoff games which only 4 teams in this league did. We need to stop acting like that is so easy and means nothing.

 

[bobbop]

what can we send to Utah for Hayton?

Hayton solves nothing

 

[noncents]

.I’d play Vesey over Kakko. Vesey is more noticeable on the ice. More complete player. Vesey has more grit and determination . Kakko is another soft player with size.

im sorry i find this entirely unserious

 

[bhamill]

i don't want to see a single smile shared between players on the ice this year. It's a sure sign of mutinous aspirations and punishable by indefinite withholding of supper.

and they damn well better not stick up for each other! THAT WILL NOT STAND!

 

[Brutananadilewski]

Who is trading anything for him when he won’t play for the team anyway and how are we going to fill his minutes in the regular season? I don’t see a trade trouba for another d, and the players would throw a bitch fit. It ain’t happening

If the players throw a bitch fit, Drury should throw them out, too, after showing Trouba's highlights during the playoffs, and asking them "you really are defending that?!"

 

[Rongomania]

At least I think this is the last season of all in, one more failure and the ‘retool on the fly’ thing should happen. Igor, team friendly deal or get f*cked bro. I love you and all but if you wanna win here, that’s the ticket.

 

[Riche16]

Yuppppp.

The worst part of that is it was 17% to those 2 who had already shown signs of decline even before they were extended (especially Staal.)

It's insane that they are willing to make the same mistake with Lindgren who won't eat as much cap but still presents the problem of having a sub optimal player in the lineup most likely playing 2 pairs above where he belongs.

So basically between Lindy / Trouba & Shesty raise... it's the same path as Hank / Staal / G

With a forward corps prone to disappear in the post season.

Seems VERY familiar

 

[McRanger92]

and they damn well better not stick up for each other! THAT WILL NOT STAND!

Why didnt anyone stick up for Fox when he took knee on knee hits twice from divisional opponents?

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Why didnt anyone stick up for Fox when he took knee on knee hits twice from divisional opponents?

They tried with Aho, he hid behind everyone.

 

[NYR Viper]

With the assumed ascension of Edstrom, and the possibility of Rempe, Groulx, Berard/Cuylle/Othmann, would it surprise anyone to see Vesey traded?

Drury signed Carrick, who I assume is going to be the teams 4C based on reputation, term and apparent fit there.

Also, Drury and his team were interested in Pacioretty at the deadline. Would they consider a 1-year offer to him again? 23 points in 47 games played. He won't have to worry about being traded at the deadline as the Rangers never sell. He can play LW on that 3rd line...

Panarin-Trochek-Lafreniere
Kreider-Zibanejad-Smith
Pacioretty-Chytil-Kakko
Cuylle-Carrick-Edstrom
Vesey/Brodzinski

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

With the assumed ascension of Edstrom, and the possibility of Rempe, Groulx, Berard/Cuylle/Othmann, would it surprise anyone to see Vesey traded?

Drury signed Carrick, who I assume is going to be the teams 4C based on reputation, term and apparent fit there.

Also, Drury and his team were interested in Pacioretty at the deadline. Would they consider a 1-year offer to him again? 23 points in 47 games played. He won't have to worry about being traded at the deadline as the Rangers never sell. He can play LW on that 3rd line...

Panarin-Trochek-Lafreniere
Kreider-Zibanejad-Smith
Pacioretty-Chytil-Kakko
Cuylle-Carrick-Edstrom
Vesey/Brodzinski

Yes but mostly because he's an NHL body making nothing.

Maybe at the TDL.

 

[bhamill]

Why didnt anyone stick up for Fox when he took knee on knee hits twice from divisional opponents?

BECAUSE HE HAS NO BESTIE! Lindgren showed that!
But in all seriousness, if the players are close and actually LIKE each other there IS more standing up for each other.

 

[Atax]

I mean, Pacioretty is a down grade from Vesey in like every category. And I dont even like Vesey.

 

[NYR Viper]

 

[bhamill]

They tried with Aho, he hid behind everyone.

Laf challenged Aho twice on his own...

 

[NYR Viper]

 

[McRanger92]

They tried with Aho, he hid behind everyone.

Did they though? The Canes creamed them at MSG in January and they did nothing after trying to hit Aho on his first shift or whatever. Then Fox himself gave Aho a crosscheck late in our win in Raleigh that definitely had some messaging behind it.

They did a lot of celebrating in his face in the playoffs but like, there was no payback. The canes have no one who couldve answered the bell against any of our bigger fighters. Just seemed to me like another example of half measures from the group. And im not saying fight to intimidate your opponent. But act like you care about your best player at least. Rangers have been mostly turning the other cheek since AV. Be like the Panthers who can beat you on the ice and hunt in packs.

 

[Atax]

Did they though? The Canes creamed them at MSG in January and they did nothing after trying to hit Aho on his first shift or whatever. Then Fox himself gave Aho a crosscheck late in our win in Raleigh that definitely had some messaging behind it.

They did a lot of celebrating in his face in the playoffs but like, there was no payback. The canes have no one who couldve answered the bell against any of our bigger fighters. Just seemed to me like another example of half measures from the group. And im not saying fight to intimidate your opponent. But act like you care about your best player at least. Rangers have been mostly turning the other cheek since AV. Be like the Panthers who can beat you on the ice and hunt in packs.

They couldnt because they were under siege like 80% of the time.

 

[McRanger92]

Laf challenged Aho twice on his own...

God bless him. Laf is exactly what the organization should be moving toward. Youth, playoff intensity and playing for your teammates.

 

[NYR Viper]

Dallas did an admirable job trying to build a defense but they're still short...

Heiskenen
Lindell
Dumba
Lyubushkin
Harley

Then they have Lundkvist who they wouldn't play last year and Brendan Smith who plays 50% of his time at forward.

If they're trading Faksa, likely for cap savings, that puts them ~$8m in cap space with 10 forwards and 6 d-men. Their window is likely the next couple of years

 

[McRanger92]

Mathieu Jospeh and a 2nd for Buchnevich

 

[nyrob13]

Great win more regular season awards and we can keep being the Dallas cowboys of the nhl.


With a round 1 or 2 exit yup. Sounds right for this group as usual

Actually, "usual" for 'this group' would be Round 3, where they've been eliminated in 2 of the last 3 years.