Roster Building Thread - Part XI (Off-season edition)

[GAGLine]

Guentzel was never a realistic option. Drury wants the best talent available that doesn’t want term beyond two seasons.

I'm not sure he even wants that much term, unless it's a low-cost option, given the contracts we have to give out next summer.

That, plus the fact that wing is our position of greatest depth organizationally, suggests we will try to fill the spot more modestly.

Things could change if one of Panarin or Kreider are to be moved at some point between now and next summer, but for now, I don't see us going after the big fish forwards. If we spend anywhere, it will be on defense IMO.

 

[Clark Kellogg]

Cap friendly 500 UFA/RFA list;

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[GoAwayPanarin]

Is Skinner worth a flyer on a short low cost contract if all the top desirables fall through?

No

 

[cheech70]

I'm not entirely sure what you're asking here, but I'll do my best to answer.

If Trouba is sent to the AHL (a la Redden), we would save 1.15 mil of his 8-mil cap hit (the rule is NHL minimum salary + 375k). That won't happen, however. There's no chance we are sending him to the AHL.

There are no re-entry waivers anymore. They were eliminated in the 2012 CBA. Regular waivers would be like what we did with Goodrow. If Trouba were waived and claimed, the entire 8 mil would be off the books. While not impossible, it is extremely unlikely. I can't imagine there's a team out there that will be willing to take on the entire 8-mil cap hit. They would much prefer to trade for him so we can retain salary or take back a contract the other team doesn't want.

If we buy Trouba out, his cap hit would drop to 4 mil this year and next, and then 2 mil for 2 years. A buyout is a possibility, but the regular buyout period ends today at 5 PM. If Lindgren elects arbitration (which he likely will), it will trigger another buyout period after his arbitration case/contract is resolved, so a buyout at that time is a possibility.

The most likely scenario is a trade where we retain and/or take back one or more contracts. In that case, it's anyone's guess as to how much cap we will save.

Could this explain Drury wanting Troubas list before 5 today?

 

[Daves a mess]

I can see it now:
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Tan hands

 

[rangers1314]

Is Skinner worth a flyer on a short low cost contract if all the top desirables fall through?

Depending on his ask, yes.

 

[Jaromir Jagr]

If you read between the lines, it's more likely that his agent leaked the story to Brooks. Drury's past moves have mostly been unknown until they happen, this wouldn't follow that precedent. Overhart probably got wind of it, talked to Trouba, who doesn't want to go, & gave Brooks the dirt.

I don't know. Brooks is a mouthpiece for the org. I can't imagine he would just take that and run with it. I think his stuff comes straight from the org and that's why when he states something like this, it's generally smoke before the fire. I would be shocked if Trouba isn't shipped to Detroit in the coming days.

 

[GAGLine]

With Brannstrom not receiving a QO from Ottawa, and Ottawa looking to move Chychrun, would they trade him for Lindgren? Both players are 26.

Brannstrom's QO was 2 mil, so it's possible they intend to try to re-sign him for less. He played 3rd pair minutes at even strength last year and was 2nd pair on the PK, but their PK was terrible. Chychrun didn't play the PK at all. Lindgren would be an upgrade there and will probably be a bit cheaper than Chychrun this year, and definitely will be going forward.

 

[RGY]

I dont trust Chytil’s health. I love his skating and talent but i would be doing everything I can to trade him and recoup assets. And even though Stamkos has been mixed Wing/Center lately, I would sign him to be the 3C. Cuylle and Kakko flanking him.

No matter who you add to the RW of Kreider-Zib, you should have a solid 2nd PP unit to backup the 1st unit.

 

[majordomo]

Agree on all of this.

One question... is it circumvention if Drury has a side deal to send a pick or prospect to a team for a lesser pick / prospect / future considerations or whatever, if that team claim Trouba off waivers?

That would mean Trouba's list doesn't matter.

Would seem like it is to me.

I don't think "circumvention" is the right word -- "collusion" seems more appropriate.

 

[GAGLine]

Could this explain Drury wanting Troubas list before 5 today?

I wouldn't think so, but there could be other factors at work. Assuming Lindgren files for arbitration (or the team does), we will get a 2nd buyout window, so if a buyout is the route they end up going, they have time before they have to worry about it.

However, if there's a plan in place to move Lindgren, that would negate that 2nd buyout window.

I think there's enough interest in Trouba that trading him is a reality, so I don't think Drury is too worried about the buyout window.

If anything, I think the timing is more related to the draft and the possibility of getting extra 2024 picks in the deal. That didn't happen, so now there's no rush.

 

[Luger]

I find it funny Drury is bending over backwards to clear cap space and pissing off his captain in the process, only to have Tampa swoop in and steal the guy he wants

Why do we want him? We already have too many LWs - Panarin, Kreider... and Laf playing on the wrong wing.

 

[RGY]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1807429747699331397

 

[GAGLine]

I don't think "circumvention" is the right word -- "collusion" seems more appropriate.

No matter what it's called, the league would hammer us for doing it.

 

[RGY]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1807444429969424521

 

[rangers1314]

Adam Boqvist bought out

 

[McRanger92]

Brannstrom. Boqvist. Lundkvist.

 

[majordomo]

No matter what it's called, the league would hammer us for doing it.

I don't disagree -- I've been saying as much.

 

[RGY]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1807444492020031729

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Stamkos is a PP specialist.

Kane is a shit fit here but Stamkos is an even shittier fit here.

 

[RGY]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1807446574470934643

I have always liked Schmidt. Dont know where his game was at in Winnipeg

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Brannstrom. Boqvist. Lundkvist.

Nils got non tendered?!

 

[Bacon Artemi Bravo]

Stamkos is a PP specialist.

Kane is a shit fit here but Stamkos is an even shittier fit here.

And he's ANOTHER righty. Really terrible fit.

 

[RGY]

Stamkos is a PP specialist.

Kane is a shit fit here but Stamkos is an even shittier fit here.

Certainly doesn’t have to be Stamkos. I would still move Chytil.

 

[DialUp]

I don't know. Brooks is a mouthpiece for the org. I can't imagine he would just take that and run with it. I think his stuff comes straight from the org and that's why when he states something like this, it's generally smoke before the fire. I would be shocked if Trouba isn't shipped to Detroit in the coming days.

What sense does it make for Drury or the Org to let Brooks know about something that is very sensitive for Trouba? And just days after Brooks wrote a piece that Trouba is probably staying? Drury told him that too?

I don't know if I am smart enough understand the strategy here.