Roster Building Thread - Part XI (Off-season edition)

[kovazub94]

With the cap meaningfully rising for the first time in ages (and then by another 5% next year and probably jumping to close to $100m in 26-27) we should expect quite a few buyouts around the league (followed by some shopping sprees). Drury recent history points to him being quite frugal and I again expect him address some of the Rangers needs via this route. For the bought out players the appeal is clear - about 1/3 of the original contract would get them whole financially plus the appeal of joining a team that's clearly in the contention window with 2 ECF trips in two years.

 

[McRanger92]

You can't give Tanev a retirement contract.

Not sure you can Roy 6 either.

Bertuzzi is an interesting one. Domi is very not interesting.

Shine is off Little Bert but he was really good for Boston after the deadline 2 years ago

 

[UAGoalieGuy]

Let's break this down in terms of need/type of replacement player needed (edit: Replacement options do not need to be just UFAs. Can be trade targets as well):

1. Top 4 LD (Player out: Lindgren / Type of player in: 2 way puck moving D in mid to late 20s / what are the options?)

2. Top 6 RW (Player out: N/A / Type of player in: Playmaker/play driver (?) to play with Zib/Kreider / what are the options?)

3. 3rd Line Center (Player out/move to wing: Chytil (health concern) / Type of player in : 2 way defensively responsible center that can win faceoffs / What are the options?)

4. 3rd Pair RD (Player out: Trouba / Type of player in: Big vet D that can PK and can handle the puck like it's not a hand grenade/ What are the options?)

5. 3rd Pair LD (Player out: N/A / Type of player in: Either Jones (or Jones Type player) or similar player Type listed in #4 / What are the options?)

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Shine is off Little Bert but he was really good for Boston after the deadline 2 years ago

I don’t want anyone that ugly on our team

 

[RangerBoy]

Frankie is putting Trouba on his trade board. It should be out today.

 

[Clark Kellogg]

Frank Seravalli will be adding Jacob Trouba to his DFO Trade Board this afternoon.
If Trouba is on the list I’m guessing there’s information to back it up based on something that Seravalli has heard.
What ever your opinion is on Seravalli is, the one thing he has not shown in the past is he doesn’t post things for clicks.

 

[McRanger92]

Frankie is putting Trouba on his trade board. It should be out today.

JD, Gorts and Slats no longer here to vouch for the Trouba Train. Drury about to send him to the Night's watch with Barclay Goodman

 

[Clark Kellogg]

Frankie is putting Trouba on his trade board. It should be out today.

Beat me to it.

 

[Synergy27]

Ok. So the opposite of what was reported yesterday. I.e., no one has any idea what’s happening.

I’ll get excited when it happens.

 

[B17 Apricots]

One thing I think we need to keep in mind as far as point production for any new incoming players is that the Rangers 1st power play unit was pretty close to the top of the league last year and that unit is likely to stay together. I don't think it's likely that the Rangers are going to be able to improve much in that direction. Comparatively for a league wide mean it was pretty close to an expected maximum production last year.....so bringing in a Kane, Zegras, Farabee, Skinner or whoever this player(s) might help to form a better second power play unit but any one of them might not be putting up a lot of power play points. Like Lafreniere last year they're most likely going to need to produce most of their offense 5v5.

That's why I'm drawn to Zegras aside from all the other things... he was hurt this season, so throw the year away. The 2 previous years he had +40 5v5 points. Last year he finished in the top 50 for 5v5 points. We need help scoring 5v5, he can help there. If Lavi keeps the same lines together Zegras makes a ton of sense next to the wonder twins. Mika and Kreider don't give up much defensively, so that angle is covered. You're acquiring Zegras to generate offense and makes plays. If he's not there yet the kid is on the verge of being a star

 

[GAGLine]

Feels like Bertuzzi and Domi are UFAs every summer

You're not wrong.

The last 4 contracts for Domi were 2 years, 2 years, 1 year and 1 year.

The last 4 for Bertuzzi were 2 years, 1 year, 2 years, 1 year.

Those weren't all UFA contracts, but still, teams have been unwilling to commit to them long-term.

 

[McRanger92]

Ok. So the opposite of what was reported yesterday. I.e., no one has any idea what’s happening.

I’ll get excited when it happens.

There's been no concrete Trouba rumors but both Vince and Larry only said it wasn't likely, but not to rule it out.

The wind seems to be blowing toward it being at least possible. If Drury is motivated to move him, I bet he can.

 

[NYR Viper]

Let's break this down in terms of need/type of replacement player needed:

1. Top 4 LD (Player out: Lindgren / Type of player in: 2 way puck moving D in mid to late 20s / what are the options?)

2. Top 6 RW (Player out: N/A / Type of player in: Playmaker/play driver (?) to play with Zib/Kreider / what are the options?)

3. 3rd Line Center (Player out/move to wing: Chytil (health concern) / Type of player in : 2 way defensively responsible center that can win faceoffs / What are the options?)

4. 3rd Pair RD (Player out: Trouba / Type of player in: Big vet D that can PK and can handle the puck like it's not a hand grenade/ What are the options?)

5. 3rd Pair LD (Player out: N/A / Type of player in: Either Jones (or Jones Type player) or similar player Type listed in #4 / What are the options?)

This is difficult

1) Dillon, Zadorov, Skjei
- If the Rangers plan on playing Jones, I could see Dillon fitting here. He replicates what Lindgren supposedly does, but better and is bigger. Shouldn't cost a long term or high cap hit contract.

2) Kane, Bertuzzi, Skinner, Perron. But if the answer to #3 is someone other than Chytil, then this spot should be Chytil's.

3) This is where I get absolutely lost. The center market sucks. Stephenson will be overpaid. Blueger is a 4C. Not much here.

4) I like Matt Roy but he is a top-4 guy. Tanev will likely be overpaid and is older. Myers, schultz, Hakanpaa are options here.

5) Kylington, Brodie, Dillon (again), Cole, OEL. I like Kylington to split time with Jones.

 

[SA16]

This is difficult

1) Dillon, Zadorov, Skjei
- If the Rangers plan on playing Jones, I could see Dillon fitting here. He replicates what Lindgren supposedly does, but better and is bigger. Shouldn't cost a long term or high cap hit contract.

2) Kane, Bertuzzi, Skinner, Perron. But if the answer to #3 is someone other than Chytil, then this spot should be Chytil's.

3) This is where I get absolutely lost. The center market sucks. Stephenson will be overpaid. Blueger is a 4C. Not much here.

4) I like Matt Roy but he is a top-4 guy. Tanev will likely be overpaid and is older. Myers, schultz, Hakanpaa are options here.

5) Kylington, Brodie, Dillon (again), Cole, OEL. I like Kylington to split time with Jones.

I don't understand option 3. They have a 3C. Chytil. He's had that role for years. Why would a past injury mean he has to play wing instead? Also, as you say, the 3C market is very bad. I wouldn't bother trying to sign one for insurance. If Chytil happens to get hurt again go out and bring someone in at the deadline rather than overpaying one of these FA who isn't very good.

 

[UAGoalieGuy]

This is difficult

1) Dillon, Zadorov, Skjei
- If the Rangers plan on playing Jones, I could see Dillon fitting here. He replicates what Lindgren supposedly does, but better and is bigger. Shouldn't cost a long term or high cap hit contract.

2) Kane, Bertuzzi, Skinner, Perron. But if the answer to #3 is someone other than Chytil, then this spot should be Chytil's.

3) This is where I get absolutely lost. The center market sucks. Stephenson will be overpaid. Blueger is a 4C. Not much here.

4) I like Matt Roy but he is a top-4 guy. Tanev will likely be overpaid and is older. Myers, schultz, Hakanpaa are options here.

5) Kylington, Brodie, Dillon (again), Cole, OEL. I like Kylington to split time with Jones.

Yeah, when I laid it out I was like wow. Though to move forward and be a relevant cup contender next season they need to address most of these.

Also for the purpose of the exercise doesn't have to be UFAs. Trade targets can be included

I don't understand option 3. They have a 3C. Chytil. He's had that role for years. Why would a past injury mean he has to play wing instead? Also, as you say, the 3C market is very bad. I wouldn't bother trying to sign one for insurance. If Chytil happens to get hurt again go out and bring someone in at the deadline rather than overpaying one of these FA who isn't very good.

For #3, it's more of management determining the long term viability of Chytil related to his health. Also for the sake of the exercise replacement players do not need to be UFA, could be internal or trade.

 

[Filip Chytil]

"Zegras wants to play for the Rangers. He prefers them over any other destination. He trains with Kreider every summer."
Per Arthur Staple & Peter Baugh today

He just racks and un-racks Kreider's weights

 

[Clark Kellogg]

"Zegras wants to play for the Rangers. He prefers them over any other destination. He trains with Kreider every summer."
Per Arthur Staple & Peter Baugh today

…or they can keep him and Drury can send Kreider to the Ducks on July 1st.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

The lack of any noise towards moving Lindgren is a bit disconcerting.

Guys have moved before out of no where and Im sure that would be dubbed as a "surprise" move but if our FO hasn't identified moving him as a priority then we're in loads of trouble.

 

[OriginalLimbo]

JD, Gorts and Slats no longer here to vouch for the Trouba Train. Drury about to send him to the Night's watch with Barclay Goodman

 

[Shesterkybomb]

Sather retired today?

* Locks door behind him

 

[bl02]

Would Weinberg take Goodrow money or little less?
Worried about Chytil.
Like Edstrom but at 3c not so sure

 

[Shesterkybomb]

(Essentially) 5 rookies on a team with Cup aspirations?

That's all part of the salary cap era to save cap space for the deadline. Also, thats why you have vets like Kreider, Zib, Panarin, Trochek etc around to mentor rookies. It would actually be a nice mix of vets and new blood. Young legs are extremely useful come playoff time, as evident by our exit.BTW they'll always be rookies if they are never given a chance. Othmann and Berard should have had some games this year to dip their toes in imo. Othmanns fake call up was a waste of time.

 

[UAGoalieGuy]

Would Weinberg take Goodrow money or little less?
Worried about Chytil.
Like Edstrom but at 3c not so sure

I would assume Wennberg would get much less then Goodrow money at this point in his career.

 

[Circus86]

Farabee would be great.

Stay away from Guenzel. He is looking for a longterm deal and I fear that contract might turn into another unmovable anchor, Mika vol. 2.

 

[Levitate]

my speculation would be that the Rangers aren't going to blow assets on moving Trouba's contract and won't buy him out but would entertain an actual deal to move him and his contract. Whether that's likely to be possible who knows.