Roster Building Thread - Part XI (Off-season edition)

[LaffyTaffy13]

Who knows what Ottawa wants, but it could be Miller.

I was saying what I think Ottawa asks for right off the hop IF trade discussions commenced.

Yeah. Here would realistically be my best offer to ottawa.

Kandre
Kakko
Edstrom
Othmann
2024 1st

 

[NYR Viper]

I said this a few weeks ago, there is a deal to be made with Utah. New ownership that's actually willing to spend up to the cap with non-LTIR players and wanting to make a splash.

They need defense big time. They have zero NHL D signed with Moser and Durzi as RFA. I don't need to list who on thr Rangers D could potentially be available with no reply need to take a contract back or retain.

One question that is in the air now which none probably thought would be a topic of conversation when the playoffs started in Goodrow.

Utah makes SO much sense for Lindgren. He’d be their captain almost day 1.

Yes but at the same time, were taking back a bad deal if there's a Trouba deal

Or, we retain.

I just don't want to eff up the finances for the 25 off-season where Igor and LaF get big raises.

As I’ve said, take back Lauzon from Nashville. That’s $2m

 

[UAGoalieGuy]

I agree - not sure trouba would waive for SLC though. Him and his wife are big Libs, and like to think they are cultured

It depends if he puts Utah as one of his teams on the no trade list. You know every Canadian team in on there, so that's 7 of the 15.

 

[SRHRangers]

If I got a 2nd round pick for Lindgren, I would run to accept it right now.

Love him, but he's shot, and I'm not doing poor man's Girardis 2.0 with him.

 

[Daves a mess]

Ottawa goes Sanderson/Chy/Chabot on LD.

It's not Miller. You were right that it would start with Laf and end with Perrault.

Yeah. I have no clue what they would want from the NYRs. If it's not LD and we hang up on Laf than who? Ottawa wants to compete NOW. They don't want picks ( from what I've read)

Schneider, Perrault, Othmann and a 1st? I m talking about Ottawas ASK here.

If it's not Laf, some other team will blow any Ranger offer out of the water me thinks.

 

[SRHRangers]

Utah makes SO much sense for Lindgren. He’d be their captain almost day 1.



As I’ve said, take back Lauzon from Nashville. That’s $2m

Nashville wants to make a big deal, but it's not Trouba.

It's Marner/Stamkos/Reinhart. Trotz wanted to make a big splash since day 1.

 

[bernmeister]

Too much work in the real world but to get us started for now.

Kreider, Tro, Rempe, Edstrom have beast factor/sufficient physical, are productive, they stay.

Kakko stays b'c for umpteenth time, not his fault after showing productive w/lesser version of kid line that he can be productive, that they have not managed to get linemate w/chem other than Cuylle. Chytil stays unless he is injury out and I am hopeful he is the answer = Cuy-Chy-KK productive line.
HOWEVER, WE SHOULD NOT MOVE KK AND TAKE LESS TO DO SO
THAT IS THE KIND OF STUPID ASS SHIT THAT BITES YOU IN THE ASS
And it hurts, esp when they passed on the better bet in Dobson for Krav.

Chytil + Cuylle are keepers
KAM + Schneid are mostly good, productive, improving stay.
These 4, you will get good offers but not enuf overpay to warrant moving.

LaF I want to keep unless Canada based team e.g., Habs overpay in currency I specify, viz.,
Guhle + Reinbacher + Barron for LaF + Robertson

bread can likely be moved
he has to see we are dealing Trouba + likely shesty! and others and that will sink in, combined w/he's not getting an offer remotely near 11.6+m from us, and that will get ugly.
Panarin to FL [who are happy to bite whether or not their top scorer leaves ufa]
for
Mikkola
and if he wants to come here, Ekblad, fine, and if not I'll take the cap relief
possible FL tells him go, do 1 yr w/Rs and come back to us as ufa, that's fine

Zib is another story
needs to be told we prefer he waive, and we will try to accommodate
however, has too much term and controls
I would look at TOR though other than Liljigren, not seeing too much else of interest. 2 1sts 5 yrs down the road + Lilj + ____? maybe
Not immediately seeing other fits he might waive for, but let's consider, the floor is open

Ros I consider ONLY if he takes 2 way deal for 1 yr only at less than 1m so does not hurt w/cap hit, than he can be emergency depth, otherwise no

Wennberg, you utterly useless POS NO NO NO NO
I hope the door hits your sorry ass on the way out
Again, spending futures on vet ahead of developing youth has cost us a pick

Good has earned a stay ... for now.
Remember this guy played recovering from a fractured jaw.
Under no circumstances b'o, if nec retain down to 2.0 and sell and get back couple of mid round picks. But for now keep

Lindgren + Robertson [who was screwed by us]
to UT
for 3 2nds whatever yrs UT wants to give us

Jones is ok for now but I prefer to upgrade
if a decent offer [Jones + 3rd for a 2nd] sell high, promote Scanlin
Wheeler 1 yr stopgap below 1m

Trouba - we owe him only to try to relocate to preference whether DET or NASH or other
eat 1.5 and get a 2nd + 3rd for his remaining 2 yrs
can move easily to a club desp for clear the crease guy and even more so once injury forces suitor's hand
til then if nec he can go 4RW

Brodz deserves another yr w/small raise if we can

Would have an open mind on moving Fox if overpay, but not gonna happen

Shesty gonna have to sacrifice b'c
WE DID NOT LISTEN TO BERN
we gave away draft picks for Copp, Kane, Tara, etc etc etc
now time to pay the piper
Sell high, but only right deal

Quick but Garand to starter as soon as he can handle

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In above, only selling high, or good value back, not overpaying

1 exception should be byfield if due to K mismanagement concerns about future would have LA give up by for enuf youth, plus want to move on from pld, then...

Othmann + Gabe P + Shesty
for
Byfield + pld at half

then
Kreider - Byfield - Edstrom
pld - tro - Zib [for now]
Cuylle - Chytil - KK
Vesey - Good - Rempe
Brodz

Guyle - Fox
KAM - Schneid
Scanlin - Barron

somethin like dat

 

[LaffyTaffy13]

The reality is due to contract structures we have, we are running it back next year with the same group + adding guys like zac jones, edstrom and rempe as lineup regulars at least up until the TDL. And a possibility that one of othmann/berard makes it. Othmann was disappointing in hartford this year, he can use another year down there.

The only real questions this off-season are what we do with kakko and lindgren. Now, when we get to July 2025, I think the roster looks very different and by that time we move trouba, goodrow, kreider, kakko, lindgren and maybe chytil

 

[UAGoalieGuy]

Untouchable players at this point (in my opinion):

Shesh
Fox
Laff
Trocheck
Schneider

Likely not movable:

Kreider
Zib
Panarin

UFA:

Wennberg
Roslovic
Ruewdel
Wheeler
Gustafson

Wouldn't Make Sense to Trade due to value/contract:

Cuylle
Rempe
Chytil
Brodz
Edstrom
Vesey
Quick
Jones

Need a really good offer to move:

Miller

Trade:

Lindgren
Trouba
Goodrow

Wild Card:

Kakko. I can see him turning into a Bennett type player and I would want that to happen here then elsewhere. It's really going to come down to his contract demands. Agnostic of his draft position, he's one of the Rangers top defensive forwards and should be given top PK time next season.

I think a line of Berard - Chytil - Kakko could be one hell of a match up line that could be a possession powerhouse and have some offensive bite

 

[Irishguy42]

Major skill this team is lacking is breaking the getting the puck out of their zone cleanly. They get that...they'll be sitting pretty.

And that starts with upgrading their D and finding a way to eject one of Lindgren or Trouba (I know it'll be tough)

 

[Daves a mess]

The reality is due to contract structures we have, we are running it back next year with the same group + adding guys like zac jones, edstrom and rempe as lineup regulars at least up until the TDL. And a possibility that one of othmann/berard makes it. Othmann was disappointing in hartford this year, he can use another year down there.

The only real questions this off-season are what we do with kakko and lindgren. Now, when we get to July 2025, I think the roster looks very different and by that time we move trouba, goodrow, kreider, kakko, lindgren and maybe chytil

I like Zac, but can you imagine what Florida would have done to him in a 6 game series?

Play Zac on your 3rd pair and move him at next year's deadline.

Oh and.

This team never wins a cup with Mika as your "#1" center.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Major skill this team is lacking is breaking the getting the puck out of their zone cleanly. They get that...they'll be sitting pretty.

And that starts with upgrading their D and finding a way to eject one of Lindgren or Trouba (I know it'll be tough)

Yeah that should be priority #1.

I'd say creating inside the dots should also be an area of focus. The Royal road shit is fine (and it can still be their bread and butter) but you need an alternative when you're facing teams that are going to take it away from you.

 

[LaffyTaffy13]

I like Zac, but can you imagine what Florida would have done to him in a 6 game series?

Play Zac on your 3rd pair and move him at next year's deadline.

Oh and.

This team never wins a cup with Mika as your "#1" center.

Maybe they trade for a bigger dman at the deadline next year, we’ll see.

I agree about mika. Which is why you clear space and go all in on draisaitl July 2025

 

[irishlaxburger2]

- Do whatever you can to move Mika
- Rebuild the defense. Of the 6 starters, the only ones who should be on the roster next year are Fox, Miller, and Schneider

Do that and you put this team in a position to succeed long term and have the ability to maybe find a legitimate 1C from somewhere.

Mika’s contract gets more and more unmoveable as time goes on. Need to cut your losses and act immediately on that one.

 

[McRanger92]

Rangers need to upgrade on Lindgren and Kakko. Testament to Lavi that they got where they did with those guys penciled in as a top pair D and top 6 RW. I don’t think Mika and Kreider should be playing together anymore but they’ve had a revolving door of under qualified players on their wing for 5 years. Can’t win the big one that way

 

[mxyxptlk]

- Do whatever you can to move Mika
- Rebuild the defense. Of the 6 starters, the only ones who should be on the roster next year are Fox, Miller, and Schneider

Do that and you put this team in a position to succeed long term and have the ability to maybe find a legitimate 1C from somewhere.

Mika’s contract gets more and more unmoveable as time goes on. Need to cut your losses and act immediately on that one.

Unfortunately, the only way I see Zib waiving right now is if Rangers trade Kreider -- and something tells me that will never happen.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

I’m excited to see a summer of proposals drooling over Brady Tkachuk (who isn’t good)

 

[Fitzy]

I like Zac, but can you imagine what Florida would have done to him in a 6 game series?

Play Zac on your 3rd pair and move him at next year's deadline.

Oh and.

This team never wins a cup with Mika as your "#1" center.

I don’t see size as the only way of dealing with a forecheck. If you’ve got a defender who can shrug off contact that’s fine, but in no way inherently superior to a shifty defenseman who can sidestep or make clever plays with the puck.

Extremes example obviously but that’s why I’d take a healthy Fox against Florida versus Miller any day

 

[UAGoalieGuy]

Maybe they trade for a bigger dman at the deadline next year, we’ll see.

I agree about mika. Which is why you clear space and go all in on draisaitl July 2025

I dont see Drai leaving the Oilers unless the implode in this series against Dallas then struggle again next season.

Oilers make it to the finals in either of the 2 years or win one, he more than likely won't leave.

 

[Mike in Houston]

I laugh when I see anyone wanting to deal Kreider. If you're going scorched Earth on the core then he's the one you keep. He's the longest tenured. He's homegrown. And he makes the least amount of money depending on who in your opinion makes up the core. And you do right by those players. And he seems to me like when the time comes for the next contract he'll take less to stay. He means a lot to the organization both on and off the ice that can't be quantified. If he wants to go chase a Cup because time is running out and it's clear it won't happen here then you deal him. Otherwise he's staying.

 

[irishlaxburger2]

I’m excited to see a summer of proposals drooling over Brady Tkachuk (who isn’t good)

Brady is very good, but he isn’t the answer to this team’s problems.

 

[Evgeny Oliker]

Like other have said I don’t think we have cap to bring in any big star.

I would like to see:
Panarin - Trocheck - Lafreniere
Kreider - Chytil - Othmann
Cuylle - Zibanejad - Kakko
Brodzienski - Goodrow - Rempe

Miller - Fox
Lindgren - Schneider
Jones - Trouba

 

[irishlaxburger2]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1797256777773248517

 

[LaffyTaffy13]

I dont see Drai leaving the Oilers unless the implode in this series against Dallas then struggle again next season.

Oilers make it to the finals in either of the 2 years or win one, he more than likely won't leave.

I view it totally different. I view it as if they win it all this year or next hes 10000% leaving because he wouldve done what he set out to do there.

Furthermore, have you ever been to edmonton? I have. If hell was a place on earth, its be edmonton. His wife is an actress and model, theyre leaving edmonton, them winning a cup beforehand only solidifies it

 

[NYR Viper]

Go sign Matt Roy, let Jones play. Trade Trouba and Lindgren.

Sign Guentzel and Bertuzzi.

Rebuild the team into guys who thrive playing in front of the net and finding spots in high danger spots.

Berard plays game 1. Edstrom plays game 1.

The system should be winning battles along the boards and funneling pucks to the point for point shots and working the puck via cycle to the front