Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part LXXIX - Clever Title

[LokiDog]

I still think we would have been in a nice spot if we’d acquired PLD. He’s not Eichel level, and we were never going to match a Laine + package, but he’s a 22 year old two way top six center with plenty of room to keep improving and enviable size.

 

[Kendo]

RNH is a bad target. Good player that will get overpaid due to production at even strength and on the PP with McDavid and Draisaitl. He's also played W the last two years (despite taking some faceoffs last year) and is terrible on the ever-important faceoffs anyway.

He was tied for fourth in faceoffs taken last year for the Oil, and was the best out of the top 5 at 50%. He's 50% this year. How is that "terrible?"

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

RNH is not the answer.

want no part of him.

 

[Avery16]

He was tied for fourth in faceoffs taken last year for the Oil, and was the best out of the top 5 at 50%. He's 50% this year. How is that "terrible?"

"terrible" is HFBoards-speak for "not excellent at this particular moment".

 

[MarkMessyay11]

He was tied for fourth in faceoffs taken last year for the Oil, and was the best out of the top 5 at 50%. He's 50% this year. How is that "terrible?"

Narrative...

RNH is basically Strome with more skill. Not saying he's the best option, but at the right price I think he would make a lot of sense to slot in at 2C.

However, I'd prefer to trade for a younger player, even if it meant a higher cost (trade price & contract). 28 year old UFA looking for a 6+ year deal at $7+ mil is asking for trouble unless they think they have a legitimate shot at a Cup next year. Not sure I'd put my eggs in that basket just yet.

 

[Paulie Walnutz]

Zero interest in overpaying RNH who’s a bland player.

 

[bleedblue94]

I think Kratsov coming over this year and showing if he is a piece here long term is going to have a huge affect as to what the organization does this summer in finding a 2c. Is he bait (which means he doesn't establish himself as a future piece here) or does he play well enough to make another winger expendable to shore up the middle position.

 

[IDvsEGO]

Zero interest in overpaying RNH who’s a bland player.

I dont need an exciting player. We need either a 2c or a 3c. You can get a 3c who's not "sexy/exciting"
Im leaning towards a 3c assuming chytil is ready to step in when he gets back.

 

[DutchShamrock]

Maybe I'm in the minority, but I would just as soon wait for the draft before I make a big move. Especially if the cost is Lunkvist, Jones, Robertson, Schneider or Lindgren. It would be so on brand to trade a D prospect for a center, re-sign Zibanejad and then fall into a top 6 ready 1st round center.

And on the other side, I'm in no rush to trade a d prospect. It's so fickle. Hajek was a lock. Keane was buried and never going to crack the line up. Nils was a concern that he wouldn't come over if he was blocked. Now? I would take a mulligan on the Keane-Gauthier trade. Wish we had a chance to bring Nils over last summer. That bottom pair would be a hell of a lot better.

At the very least, I'd like Gorton to at least make the decisions look they weren't in a vacuum. If we swap a D prospect for a center, hold off on a Mika deal until we have all the information. At least get to the draft.

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

I also want the org to find another couple top-6 potential C prospects, since a) I have my concerns about Strome like everyone else, and b) much as I love him, Mika's health concerns me long-term. (Also, it's just a good idea to shore up a position of organizational weakness.)

But I think the concern level on this issue would be a lot lower right now if Rodrigues hadn't cheapshotted Chytil 2 1/2 weeks ago...

(EDIT: I'm also really looking forward to seeing what Vierling shows us once he's able to play again. Though obviously he'd still be several seasons away.)

 

[RGY]

I’m with you. I’ve been saying they should trade Nils for Turcotte for months. It solves so many problems for both teams, and both players have a lot of potential at each of their positions. I would love Zegras as much as the next guy but there is no chance in hell they move him. I think it also puts the Rangers in a much better position to move on from Zibby if need be to go after someone like Barkov or Eichel. Either way, if they can deploy Zibby Chytil Turcotte or Eichel/Barkov Chytil Turcotte down the middle, it insulates guys from injuries a little bit having 3 guys who can move up and down the line up if need be. Everyone is playing arm chair GM and saying thank god nils is here. Even with DeAngelo gone I really don’t think Lundkvist is in the teams long term plans. He’s one of the best trade chips we have at a position that is desirable and where the team is pretty deep. I think having Schneider whose not too far away by all accounts, and hunter skinner makes Nils the first guy out the door for an impact center. He’s done nothing since he was drafted but improve his stock

I am skeptical of trading Nils Lundkvist right now for anything less than an already established young 2C or higher. Of course that might mean we add to Lundkvist, but I feel his stock is higher than Turcotte at the moment and climbing. He is RHD with a great shot, smooth skater who has great gap control because of it. I think a straight up trade for Turcotte would not be the right use of that asset.

I think you can get Turcotte for a combination of pieces that may be less than Lundkvist, but still of quality and can be of great value to LAK moving forward. That is why I start with DeAngelo, who can jump in to their top 4 right now and PP1, a 2nd round pick, and Robertson who has top 4 D potential from the left side with decent size and ability. Of course we may need to add to that, but that is a lot of pieces for one young unproven center who has not made the jump to the NHL yet. Maybe you add another B prospect to it.

I would save Lundkvist/Jones/Schneider, whomever becomes the headliner piece — likely Lundkvist, for another Center who is already established. Maybe its Eichel. Maybe its a tier below Eichel.

But that would line you up with at least two young centers, one already established and one on the way. To mix in with Chytil. That can be a very longterm nice depth down the middle.

 

[Avery16]

I still think we would have been in a nice spot if we’d acquired PLD. He’s not Eichel level, and we were never going to match a Laine + package, but he’s a 22 year old two way top six center with plenty of room to keep improving and enviable size.

Roslovic is where he wants to be, but he would have made a nice 3C for us. Not sure what he would've cost as a standalone.

 

[BBKers]

Soon things will begin to clarify as to which which ELC bonuses will actually be attainable for the young roster players this season. My bet is that Management will soon see that they will not be paying out anywhere near to the MAX caphit of $10,362,500 (with the current rosters ELC bonuses) minus $6,112,500 (7,5% of total ceiling) = $4,262,500 in a theoretical Bonus cushion penalty which was the worst case scenario on Day 1 of the season. Once that number goes to around 0 (which it more than likely will) and we approach the TDL, the Rangers should have a formidable amount of Cap Space to use as seen fit. This is something that is very interesting...

 

[Avery16]

 

[SA16]

He was tied for fourth in faceoffs taken last year for the Oil, and was the best out of the top 5 at 50%. He's 50% this year. How is that "terrible?"

Well first off he's 40% this year. And he's taken a total of 20.

Last year he was fine. Every year before that he was bad. 45.1%, 44.8%, 44.8%. He was not a C last year for EDM but he took them as well. He mostly played on Draisaitl's wing. He's had one average year on faceoffs and 8 bad ones. Maybe he's got better and maybe he hasn't.

Narrative...

RNH is basically Strome with more skill. Not saying he's the best option, but at the right price I think he would make a lot of sense to slot in at 2C.

However, I'd prefer to trade for a younger player, even if it meant a higher cost (trade price & contract). 28 year old UFA looking for a 6+ year deal at $7+ mil is asking for trouble unless they think they have a legitimate shot at a Cup next year. Not sure I'd put my eggs in that basket just yet.

He's not really like Strome. He's actually a pretty good defensive player

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

So, in other words, Vince watched the Bobfather's hit on NBCSN between periods 1 and 2 last night.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Should have probably listened to what Bobby Margarita said during the first intermission yesterday.

OH what thats exactly what he did

 

[Edge]

So, in other words, Vince watched the Bobfather's hit on NBCSN between periods 1 and 2 last night.

What is interesting is that Bob's info more or less jives with I've heard: teams aren't just abandoning the idea. They continue to keep in contact.

 

[MarkMessyay11]

What is interesting is that Bob's info more or less jives with I've heard: teams aren't just abandoning the idea. They continue to keep in contact.

Yeah I noticed he said towards the end that it's a "waiting game" or something to that extent. Which isn't surprising and still gives Gorton a slight advantage. Other teams are waiting for Gorton to blink on the price. Gorton only needs one of the other teams to blink...

 

[HatTrick Swayze]

I read waiting game to also mean a desire to put more time between the incident and acquisition. Attempt to let the online flames die down a bit.

 

[Rangers in 7]

I read waiting game to also mean a desire to put more time between the incident and acquisition. Attempt to let the online flames die down a bit.

honestly other gm's are just waiting for the incident to die down so people dont flip out as much when they make the trade

 

[RGY]

I read waiting game to also mean a desire to put more time between the incident and acquisition. Attempt to let the online flames die down a bit.

Thats actually what Bob ended the segment with.

 

[SA16]

Does Bob McKenzie read HFNYR?

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Does Bob McKenzie read HFNYR?

We know he has a HF account.

He called a poster an ass clown once. It was awesome

 

[LokiDog]

We just need a season ending injury to John Carlson or Quinn Hughes or something and DeAngelo becomes a target lol