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Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part LXXIV

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Loki Dog 74 said:
It’s not on him, from an asset management perspective, to handle it internally. His emotional intelligence may be the reason there are hurdles to keeping his perceived value as high as his production, but it’s on the coach and management to realize that when you scratch him one game into the season, you’re giving other GMs ammunition to try to lower his price in trade negotiations. There’s other ways to punish or get through to a player. Quinn seems to only know one. He’s kinda like everyone’s least favorite POTUS. You’re fired. Scratched. Demoted.
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I definitely hear your point. The counter would be if it helps him actually fix the problem medium-long term by developing as a person, it could be worth the short term hit.
 
Loki Dog 74 said:
It’s not on him, from an asset management perspective, to handle it internally. His emotional intelligence may be the reason there are hurdles to keeping his perceived value as high as his production, but it’s on the coach and management to realize that when you scratch him one game into the season, you’re giving other GMs ammunition to try to lower his price in trade negotiations. There’s other ways to punish or get through to a player. Quinn seems to only know one. He’s kinda like everyone’s least favorite POTUS. You’re fired. Scratched. Demoted.
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I agree scratching is insane. I guess by the same logic is why Georgiev is starting because Igor barked at the ref with very clear English curse words after the goalie interference rubbish.

But yeah, Quinn has no innovation ability for discipline just like he has no ability to adjust.
 
Roo Returns said:
That's on DeAngelo for (back to my point a few hours ago) low emotional intelligence and no common sense. The guy does it to himself. He has similar beliefs to Adam Fox and former teammates Henrik Lundqvist and Marc Staal, but the other three aren't as loud as him.
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is it confirmed that those guys are on that side of the fence as well?
 
Cawlidge Hawkey said:
is it confirmed that those guys are on that side of the fence as well?
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Its not a fence. They are opinions. If you view thoughts as barriers, that's on you.

Everyone complains that hockey players are too boring and have no personality. Then they complain when players express themselves and display anything slightly different. "We need athletes to be more political and get involved with problems in society. Wait, that's not what we meant! Shut up again, you're uneducated and disconnected from the masses after all"
 
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Loki Dog 74 said:
I’m torn. I can see obvious ways they could clash but there’s also aspects of Tony that make me feel like he’d love Torts and Torts would love him.
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For Torts, its ego and compliance. He wouldn't be able to control Tony, and therefore Torts would have to destroy him.
 
DutchShamrock said:
Its not a fence. They are opinions. If you view thoughts as barriers, that's on you.

Everyone complains that hockey players are too boring and have no personality. Then they complain when players express themselves and display anything slightly different. "We need athletes to be more political and get involved with problems in society. Wait, that's not what we meant! Shut up again, you're uneducated and disconnected from the masses after all"
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Barriers? You can hop over most fences...lol I’m trying to be vague to not evoke political discussions. Relax.
 
LaffyTaffy said:
If DQ is going to have such a short leash on Kakko then just trade him for PLD. This is no way to instill confidence in him so use him to get PLD. Try not to lose Chytil, have serious C depth.
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You aren't getting Dubois without giving up Chytil (unless you trade away a premium prospect like Kakko or Lafreniere).

The package will include Chytil and then some. Buchnevich+Chytil+Robertson/Kravtsov+2022 1st
 
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Amazing Kreiderman said:
You aren't getting Dubois without giving up Chytil (unless you trade away a premium prospect like Kakko or Lafreniere).

The package will include Chytil and then some. Buchnevich+Chytil+Robertson/Kravtsov+2022 1st
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I was struggling to imagine a trade that makes sense without ADA and I guess this comes close. Makes a lot of sense for the rangers as well. Definitely a lot of value going to Columbus, and I would hope any future firsts would be top 5/10 protected.
 
Bacon Artemi Bravo said:
I was struggling to imagine a trade that makes sense without ADA and I guess this comes close. Makes a lot of sense for the rangers as well. Definitely a lot of value going to Columbus, and I would hope any future firsts would be top 5/10 protected.
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You can have it top-3 protected, and if we somehow win the lottery it would shift to 2023 1st. But you can only have 1 condition on a pick, so that 2023 would be theirs then regardless of where it ends up (like Ottawa's pick in the Duchene trade)
 
Cawlidge Hawkey said:
Barriers? You can hop over most fences...lol I’m trying to be vague to not evoke political discussions. Relax.
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I'm trying to escape all of that stuff by watching sports. That's not possible so I come here. Despite the forum rules, that's impossible too.

Why does it matter how those guys think or align? You asked a question. That's evoking a response.
 
Bacon Artemi Bravo said:
I was struggling to imagine a trade that makes sense without ADA and I guess this comes close. Makes a lot of sense for the rangers as well. Definitely a lot of value going to Columbus, and I would hope any future firsts would be top 5/10 protected.
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There was a rumor, trust worthy or not, that alluded to the problems with PLD being a difference of views within the lockerrom. As in non hockey issues. If there is even a whisp of truth to the rumor, ADA has to be a non-starter. Assume its off base, not many teams are mortgaging their young, 1st line center for a potential PR nightmare.
 
LaffyTaffy said:
If DQ is going to have such a short leash on Kakko then just trade him for PLD. This is no way to instill confidence in him so use him to get PLD. Try not to lose Chytil, have serious C depth.
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Seriously. I know its due to injuries and lack of depth but Jack Hughes is playing 1st line minutes and getting good results, even if he's making mistakes here and there.
 
Amazing Kreiderman said:
You aren't getting Dubois without giving up Chytil (unless you trade away a premium prospect like Kakko or Lafreniere).

The package will include Chytil and then some. Buchnevich+Chytil+Robertson/Kravtsov+2022 1st
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This. Honestly I think they will want 1 of Lundkvist/ Miller/ Schneider just in case Werenski or Jones decide they want to go to FA. Having some good D prospects will insulate them a bit
 
Cawlidge Hawkey said:
is it confirmed that those guys are on that side of the fence as well?
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Yes. And without talking much about politics, someone on this board ran into Lundqvist and Staal at a meeting for Young (insert party). I've seen current players like Tweets of certain people who don't Tweet anymore. Duguay too.

Trouba has tweeted his support for the other side of TDA.

It's fine to have opinions and just because you're on one side doesn't mean you're extreme, but I think TDA started going places a little too extreme without saying what.
 
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