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Are there Any hedge fund fans out there that can squeeze, short sell the fracking industry and put more pressure on the Pegulas? Florida May be tax free but we can pressure owners into selling assets.
Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part LVIII
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it's weak because there is no one in that package that has really proven anything at the NHL level (except ADA). I agree with you I don't think it is enough. There is quantity but the quality is not guaranteed.
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As someone posted before, few teams can afford him. Few teams have the pieces needed to get him. Few teams have the need for him. Very few have all three. Rangers are one of the very few teams with all 3. The only ways Buffalo trades him is if Eichel forces his way out, they start going mega-rebuild and trying to get as much for him as they can and just start from scratch with Dahlin as their main piece, and the 3rd way is if the GM is just f***ing terrible and just makes a bad trade. They have no rush to trade Eichel right now, assuming Eichel isn't pushing right now for a trade.
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Twenty f*ckin years
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I remember everyone telling Hf that Nash was gonna take Stepan, McDonagh, Del Zotto (his value was prob comparable to Tony’s right now at that time) and 2 1sts. Then he got traded for two middle 6ers, a good prospect, and a 1st.
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I wasn't clear and I didn't intend to equate Bob to the chode. I was just showing an example of how we are commonly linked to rumors even when it doesn't make sense. Purely a comment on the use of the rangers.
Yeah, I remember they checked in on the #1. Maybe we delved into Eichel during the talk. Did it go far on either player? Simple as that.
I empathize with the people providing info. They get killed for doing a job or favor.
You’re not waiting for anything in that hypo. It’s a fallback option on what everyone agrees is a long shot, and as fallback options go it’s a great one and right around the corner.
Yeah but teams with quality proven commodities aren't usually in a hurry to move them unless they have to.
Again the question isn't "is Chytil+DeAngelo+22 OA a fair base of a package for Eichel", it's "Which teams can feasibly top that base (realistically, Colorado moving Rantanen is not realistic) while also being able to fit in his salary"?
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haohmaru
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That's why the ratio in deals like this is 4:1 or more, as well. I would think ADA carries a bit more weight than he's being given credit for - especially at his age. He's likely to peak in a couple of years as most D peak later than forwards.
It's interesting to talk about, but I'm not sure where any of this goes or that we need another 10M forward in the first place.
Larry 2 weeks ago: "Rangers will never entertain moving DeAngelo to the left side full time"
Larry now that his favorite player is gone: "..... f***"
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We can easily come up with a better package than that even excluding Kakko, Lafreniere and Kravtsov.
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Again, we’re dealing with specific circumstances here. The economics of the league have a lot of franchises hurting right now. The Rangers are unique in many ways. You also need to look at how these deals turn out when completed. Fans always speculate shy-high value. Jeez, Trouba wasn’t supposed to be acquired for just Pionk and a 1st. Nash wasn’t supposed to cost Dubinsky, Anisimov, Erixon and 1st. There are so many examples of how these deals turn out going back 30 years.
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Name them and how.
Not trying to be a smartass but I bet I can put together better packages.
The consumer power is huge towards these guys. They (and especially everyone doing business with them) are seriously scared for it. Google Greenpeace and Credit Suisse. There is a UN lead initiative to boycott anyone or anything that lobbies against actions to protect the climate.
Check out which bank Pegula is using and start protesting outside it since they are doing business with him.
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I doubt they offer that, but that maybe the ONE team that could come close. We could offer more in terms of number of assets most likely though.
aufheben
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No thanks to spending a bajillion (bagillion?) dollars on like 3 players. I don’t want to end up in an ever-sticky Leafs-type situation.
Go for Lindholm. A nice “hockey trade”. Fill a hole and keep the cap down.
Go for Lindholm. A nice “hockey trade”. Fill a hole and keep the cap down.
Off the top of my head why couldn't a team like Philly get involved? If teams especially in the Eastern conference saw the Rangers getting involved there could be some team out there that would try to make it work.
Heck not saying there is a fit but even a team like Montreal who is starved for a forward superstar could get involved. They would have KK or Suzuki plus some other appealing pieces.
Who was the last player traded that is remotely similar to Eichel and his situation?
- Close to top 5 in his position in the league (specifically, C)
- ~24 years old or younger
- Highly touted "franchise player" prospect
- Signed long-term, carrying a large cap hit
- Close to top 5 in his position in the league (specifically, C)
- ~24 years old or younger
- Highly touted "franchise player" prospect
- Signed long-term, carrying a large cap hit
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I'm not entirely disagreeing with you, but who's to say that the Leafs model isn't going to be successful? The team is still really young. What if the leafs sign Pietrangelo and go on to win 2 cups in the next 3 or 4 four years with a bunch of young guys on ELCs and 1 year veteran signings?
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What is Philly moving? Mind you they have 6 mill in open space right now.
I don't think Montreal is really gung ho on moving either of those guys. I can't imagine that Buffalo would want to trade him inside of the division either.
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One of the things that needs to be sorted out here is the issue of:
Are we (A) having to sell Buffalo on moving Eichel because we're gonna wash them away with high value assets, or, (B) is this a scenario where Buffalo is internally deciding it needs to move Eichel because of finances, he doesn't want to play there, or some other reason, and they are gonna take the best reasonable deal they can?
If it's (A), then they can easily sit on the position of, "We want Lafreniere or Kakko or there will be no deal." I wouldn't even be shocked if they took that position; but in that case, no team in the league is likely to pry Eichel away and this is a moot non-story. A phone call was made, McKenzie reported it, but there's no real traction.
If it's (B), then there is no debate, the Rangers will win those sweepstakes and will not have to include Lafreniere or Kakko to do so, and may not even have to include Kravtsov.
Are we (A) having to sell Buffalo on moving Eichel because we're gonna wash them away with high value assets, or, (B) is this a scenario where Buffalo is internally deciding it needs to move Eichel because of finances, he doesn't want to play there, or some other reason, and they are gonna take the best reasonable deal they can?
If it's (A), then they can easily sit on the position of, "We want Lafreniere or Kakko or there will be no deal." I wouldn't even be shocked if they took that position; but in that case, no team in the league is likely to pry Eichel away and this is a moot non-story. A phone call was made, McKenzie reported it, but there's no real traction.
If it's (B), then there is no debate, the Rangers will win those sweepstakes and will not have to include Lafreniere or Kakko to do so, and may not even have to include Kravtsov.
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