Speculation: Roster Building Thread LXXXIV: 2021: “The Fun has begun” or “Over & done”?

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I'm not too focused on the labeling of lines (first, second, etc). To me it's more about line combos. Panarin could certainly help get Zib going. I don't see what Gauthier has done to play over Blackwell. I don't see how you can sit Lemieux ahead of Howden or Gauthier either. Actually I think a Lemiex/Howden-Rooney-Lemieux/Howden line would be interesting.

Watching Blackwell I get a sense that he can turn into pumpkin at any moment, while flashes of talent from Gauthier are getting shown more frequently and consistently.

4th line will have a bunch of interchangeable parts to switch around even on a game-by-game basis using “what you have done for me lately” - as in the last game. Rooney and Howden have a bit of priority as centers and higher ranking as PKers.
 
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What would 4 years of Crosby cost us in a trade ? It would have to be less then Eichel? Would he still be a #1 at the end of his current deal ? Just thinking out loud on a Summer deal . Let's face it....he is the closest thing to a Messier out there right now .

Imagine a line of Laf-Crosby-Kakko and a second one of Panarin-Chytil-Gauthier ?and a third one of Kreider-Strome-Krav? and a pick 3 for the sandpaper trio. That leaves Lemieux-Zibs-Buch-First rounder 21 -Lundkvist-Schneider-Robertson -DeAngelo as trade bait of sorts . Extras...Rooney-Blackwell-Barron-PDG . Something to think about on a Sunday.

That might be a Cup worthy team for one for sure .....maybe two. That is a lot of firepower with Crosby .
 
i wonder if the rangers were to outright release howden would a bad team like detroit be in a rush to quickly pick him up?
 
I am just as terrified at what Crosby would cost because its the Penguins and we are the Rangers. The inter-division tax will be real and we will probably end up having to pay a similar price to acquiring Eichel, but for a much older player with his fair share of injuries. He is obviously a generational player, but I feel like any day he could take a hit that just ends it at this stage. Yes, putting Crosby between the wingers we have would be something to watch, but price to acquire and risk is just too much imo.

Would rather look into other options.
 
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I mean, yeah but it’s not a decision making issue there’s just literally no spot for him in the top 9

Panarin - Strome - Kakko
Laf - Mika - Buch
Kreider - Chytil - Kravtsov
(any arrangement of that top 9)

There literally is.
I love our black aces, but none of them have nailed down that 9th spot.
I like Goat's frame and potential, but he hasn't either.
 
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i wonder if the rangers were to outright release howden would a bad team like detroit be in a rush to quickly pick him up?

Being a former 1st round pick will grant Howden the privilege of four or five chances with NHL clubs.
 
I would just love to see the remaining prospects we have have all over the globe to marinate and mature as much as possible before coming to the big club
 
I am just as terrified at what Crosby would cost because its the Penguins and we are the Rangers. The inter-division tax will be real and we will probably end up having to pay a similar price to acquiring Eichel, but for a much older player with his fair share of injuries. He is obviously a generational player, but I feel like any day he could take a hit that just ends it at this stage. Yes, putting Crosby between the wingers we have would be something to watch, but price to acquire and risk is just too much imo.

Would rather look into other options.
im with you on this one. It would be something to see for sure.
1. The price would be Rape

2. That franchise can’t trade Crosby. They would be a mutiny, especially to the rangers. The economic hit they would take alone along with all the negative PR Would be a nightmare.

3. he’s a pen for life
 
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Panarin - Strome - Kakko
Laf - Mika - Buch
Kreider - Chytil - Kravtsov
(any arrangement of that top 9)

There literally is.
I love our black aces, but none of them have nailed down that 9th spot.
I like Goat's frame and potential, but he hasn't either.

Gauthier has proven a ton more in NA than Kravstov has. His AHL seasons are far superior. Not saying that means he is or will be better but Kravstov isn’t objectively more accomplished than him by any means.

Did any of them play on the 4th line while getting minimal minutes with scrubs? Thought so.

Has Kravstov or are we upset about hypothetical futures we proposed?
 
A Howden for Sam Bennett trade with a small add from the Rangers makes sense for both teams.
I honestly would love to see a 4th line of
Lemieux-Bennett-Rooney/Blackwell/ Barron

maybe even Gauthier if Quinn doesn’t bench him. That line would piss off a lot of people I’d imagine
 
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Plan A) Trade Zibs for a good young center prospect ( Krebs, Glass etc )
Plan B) Get a good and youngish middle 6 center ( Dvorak-tier )
Plan C) See if someone else is available ( Barkov/Draft )
Plan D) Do nothing and Zibs remembers how to hockey
Plan E) Trade for Eichel
 
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I watched some of the BUF-Isles game. The Sabres team in general is playing with no life. But also Eichel has become a perimeter player. He's not really going all out. He's not driving his line at all. It reminds me of the Rangers during the dark ages. Eichel is either really hurt and just trying to protect himself or he's like one of the worst captains currently in the NHL. You can't lead if you're not going all out. It's just not possible. If he's that banged up that he is playing this passive, he should sit out and heal.

As for trading for him -- i dunno. Even if he had a 7m cap hit, I dunno.

Today's NHL, you want your top players driving the play. Forcing the issue. It's the only thing that opens up space for offense. Chytil, though he sometimes gets a little tunnel vision, he makes his wingers better. He demands attention and it creates mismatches and turnovers all over the ice. That's what Zib did last year. We don't necessarily need a facilitator. We need players with a mix of skill, skating and doggedness.

Kakko, Laf, Panarin -- they are sick passers. Good vision. They can do a lot of great things. But they are all better when the players around them are opening up lanes with their speed and forecheck. Kreider, Gauthier, Fast when he was here. Buch can do that when he's on his game.

Jack Eichel certainly has the size, the wheels, the vision, the skill to fit in. But I don't know that I want him at that price (cap/players) if it means we have to screw his head back on. And make sure it stays on the right way. He has to completely unlearn some habits that feel like they're forming this year.
 
Panarin - Zibanejad - Buchnevich
Kreider - Strome - Kravtsov/Kakko
LAF - Chytil - Kakko/Kravtsov
Lemmy - Bennett - GOAT/Blackwell
Spares/Taxi: Rooney, PDG

Howden plus an add for Bennett
Yeah but with a new coach Bennett is getting a fresh start in Calgary
 
I watched some of the BUF-Isles game. The Sabres team in general is playing with no life. But also Eichel has become a perimeter player. He's not really going all out. He's not driving his line at all. It reminds me of the Rangers during the dark ages. Eichel is either really hurt and just trying to protect himself or he's like one of the worst captains currently in the NHL. You can't lead if you're not going all out. It's just not possible. If he's that banged up that he is playing this passive, he should sit out and heal.

As for trading for him -- i dunno. Even if he had a 7m cap hit, I dunno.

Today's NHL, you want your top players driving the play. Forcing the issue. It's the only thing that opens up space for offense. Chytil, though he sometimes gets a little tunnel vision, he makes his wingers better. He demands attention and it creates mismatches and turnovers all over the ice. That's what Zib did last year. We don't necessarily need a facilitator. We need players with a mix of skill, skating and doggedness.

Kakko, Laf, Panarin -- they are sick passers. Good vision. They can do a lot of great things. But they are all better when the players around them are opening up lanes with their speed and forecheck. Kreider, Gauthier, Fast when he was here. Buch can do that when he's on his game.

Jack Eichel certainly has the size, the wheels, the vision, the skill to fit in. But I don't know that I want him at that price (cap/players) if it means we have to screw his head back on. And make sure it stays on the right way. He has to completely unlearn some habits that feel like they're forming this year.
Exactly. Pay 10m long term and give away a handful of assets for a guy who plays like a top scorer when it’s convenient and really never plays a well rounded game. Pass unless it’s an absolute robbery
 
So clearly nobody learned their lesson about penciling Kravtsov into the top-9 after the first go-around. :laugh:

Tremendously talented kid but he's going to have to earn his way into the lineup just like everyone else. I'm looking forward to hundreds of posts about how Quinn is ruining him though.
 
Exactly. Pay 10m long term and give away a handful of assets for a guy who plays like a top scorer when it’s convenient and really never plays a well rounded game. Pass unless it’s an absolute robbery
Plays as a top scorer when its convenient? He is just about a PPG player. Are you saying he grabs all of his points against the bad teams?
 
Exactly. Pay 10m long term and give away a handful of assets for a guy who plays like a top scorer when it’s convenient and really never plays a well rounded game. Pass unless it’s an absolute robbery
This is a move that would have been done in the dark times...
 
Gauthier has proven a ton more in NA than Kravstov has. His AHL seasons are far superior. Not saying that means he is or will be better but Kravstov isn’t objectively more accomplished than him by any means.

We have 8 out of the top 9 nailed down, is my point.
Goat "has proven more in NA than VK has," is an obvious statement.
Kravty has a spot to steal since it has not been cemented. If I were him, I'd like my chances if Goat is the gatekeeper.
 
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