Roster Building/Team Building/Future Trade/Drafting thread.

[ULF_55]

Walk away from JT and make a trade for Kadri.
I would love Marchand as well but I have a feeling he will stay in Florida.
Evander Kane is a good buy low guy right now.
Cody Glass may be a decent addition
-sign Jeannot
-sign Tanev

Knies Matthews Nylander
Kane Kadri Cowan(Marchand if possible)
McMann Glass Domi
Jeannot Laughton Tanev

That's a greasy physical forward lineup.
If we could get Marchand it would be even better.

I'd try swapping Kane and Knies.

Knies and Kadri as a 2nd. line?
Kane the dirtbag with Matthews and Nylander.

Both lines would have someone DOPS would chat with.

 

[Americanadian]

Oceans are great to live by / on.

Have lived both coasts, and on a destination island, that isn't part of US or Canada.

Beaches are nice, but no when you live "on the ocean" you don't go the the beach every day. LOL.

I have family property in an ocean town, definitely not an every day thing but being able to enjoy it is better than the alternative.

All that is to say - I fully believe Nylander would waive to play in Tampa.

 

[ULF_55]

I have family property in an ocean town, definitely not an every day thing but being able to enjoy it is better than the alternative.

All that is to say - I fully believe Nylander would waive to play in Tampa.

So you must laugh when you hear the comments about "beach every day."

In 30 months on an island with world class beaches, not those Florida beaches (vacationed St. Petes twice, Key West once) which are no better than Grand Bend, and probably went to the beach 60-80 times.

Being able to go fishing on the ocean is nice though.

 

[OVO16]

Friedman said Vegas is #1 on Marner's wishlist, followed by LA.

Vegas needs to clear cap, and I think they would rather move Barbashev over Karlsson. Leafs should be all over Barbashev

 

[Stephen]

I wonder if Jason Robertson could be a cap dump acquisition and if a functional RHD like Carlo going back could get it close.

 

[Stephen]

Friedman said Vegas is #1 on Marner's wishlist, followed by LA.

Vegas needs to clear cap, and I think they would rather move Barbashev over Karlsson. Leafs should be all over Barbashev

Hell we could take both and sort it out internally after. Karlsson is also a C which would lessen the need to drag Tavares back into the fold.

 

[OVO16]

Hell we could take both and sort it out internally after. Karlsson is also a C which would lessen the need to drag Tavares back into the fold.

Vegas won't let go off both.

 

[aingefan]

If he didn't fall down so much and look so unable to do anything against good players I might be more optimistic but for me personally I've seen enough to believe he will never be a contributor for a cup winning team.

I feel that narrative (falling down) is based more on his early years rather than his more recent play.
I’m not sure how you can draw that conclusion, seeing how it’s a tremendous confluence of factors that make any cup winning team, but it’s possible he never contributes to one.
I think there’s a very good chance that he’s better than last year, tho, and can lengthen the lineup. Probably at a better cap hit and likely improving his value.

 

[TheMadHatTrick]

Given our dearth of assets our cap space might be the best asset we can offer to teams trying to dump a contract they may not want. The Capitals were able to get PLD for Keumper's shorter contract. A lot of the names have been mentioned already:

Zibanejad (32) 8.5M x 5 years
Timo Meier (28) 8.8M x 6 years
Horvat (30) 8.5M x 6 years
Barzal (28) 9.15M x 6 years
Kadri (34) 7M x 4 years
Skjei (31) 7M x 6 years
Karlsson (35) 11.5M x 2 years
Couturier (32) 7.75M x 5 years
Lindholm (30) 7.75M x 6 years
Wilson (31) 6.5M x 6 years
Stephenson (31) 6.25M x 6 years

We can send Domi or Jarnkrok's smaller cap hits the other way.

 

[Zero1]

Given our dearth of assets our cap space might be the best asset we can offer to teams trying to dump a contract they may not want. The Capitals were able to get PLD for Keumper's shorter contract. A lot of the names have been mentioned already:

Zibanejad (32) 8.5M x 5 years
Timo Meier (28) 8.8M x 6 years
Horvat (30) 8.5M x 6 years
Barzal (28) 9.15M x 6 years
Kadri (34) 7M x 4 years
Skjei (31) 7M x 6 years
Karlsson (35) 11.5M x 2 years
Couturier (32) 7.75M x 5 years
Lindholm (30) 7.75M x 6 years
Wilson (31) 6.5M x 6 years
Stephenson (31) 6.25M x 6 years

We can send Domi or Jarnkrok's smaller cap hits the other way.

Give me Meier, Kadri, and/or Wilson please.

Highly doubt any of those guys are available though.

 

[andora]

This is actually a good situation to really see what you got

Shitty ufa market so dont go stupid with a contract that you are settling for

Get some under market grit and compete players

Go into the season with the expectation of seeing what you can fight for in ranking

Play some kids

Dont settle for something just cause.. let everyone blow their cap space

 

[Community]

Given our dearth of assets our cap space might be the best asset we can offer to teams trying to dump a contract they may not want. The Capitals were able to get PLD for Keumper's shorter contract. A lot of the names have been mentioned already:

Zibanejad (32) 8.5M x 5 years
Timo Meier (28) 8.8M x 6 years
Horvat (30) 8.5M x 6 years
Barzal (28) 9.15M x 6 years
Kadri (34) 7M x 4 years
Skjei (31) 7M x 6 years
Karlsson (35) 11.5M x 2 years
Couturier (32) 7.75M x 5 years
Lindholm (30) 7.75M x 6 years
Wilson (31) 6.5M x 6 years
Stephenson (31) 6.25M x 6 years

We can send Domi or Jarnkrok's smaller cap hits the other way.

PLD was 25/26 years old when the trade happened and you just listed a bunch of guys over 30 as potential similar options... the 2 guys under 30 would be expensive to acquire even if they are available.

Adding a potential boat anchor contract is extremely risky and not a good use of capspace. Only way we get better as a team is by efficiently using our capspace, not by acquiring players not worth their capspace. Washington took that risk because they weren't in a contending window and the gamble paid off... but thats easier said than done.

I honestly believe there's currently 8+ 2026 UFAs that would be great adds and 4 players that would drastically improve our contention window so I think it's worth overspending on 1 year UFA deals (like Bertuzzi and Domi in 2023/24) this year to field a competitive team and then hope that multiple UFAs from the 2026 crop actually hit free agency (McDavid, Makar, Eichel, Kaprizov, Kempe, Kyle Connor, Andersson, and Tuch would all be great adds).

 

[RoyIsALegend]

I honestly believe there's currently 8+ 2026 UFAs that would be great adds and 4 players that would drastically improve our contention window so I think it's worth overspending on 1 year UFA deals (like Bertuzzi and Domi in 2023/24) this year to field a competitive team and then hope that multiple UFAs from the 2026 crop actually hit free agency (McDavid, Makar, Eichel, Kaprizov, Kempe, Kyle Connor, Andersson, and Tuch would all be great adds).

Cale Makar isn’t a UFA until the summer of 2027.

 

[Kiwi]

You can say the same thing for Rielly.

Also this "Reilly wont wave" is hilarious because none of us knows shit. Players waive all the time. Its extremely common for players to waive and accept a trade

Sure because of all the recent examples of guys waiving to leave Toronto over the last 20 years, we haven't ******* had one

In fact our guys do everything they can so we can't move them, Marner and Kadri ring a bell?

 

[Americanadian]

You can say the same thing for Rielly.

Also this "Reilly wont wave" is hilarious because none of us knows shit. Players waive all the time. Its extremely common for players to waive and accept a trade

Genuinely asking because I don’t know. Who was the last player to waive a NMC that wasn’t a deadline rental?

 

[TMLAM34]

I wonder what Glass’s next contract will look like? When a team walks away, and he’s already been traded a few times, it doesn’t sound like he’d get very much on the open market BUT the center depth in free agency is pretty weak… I would definitely be interested in him, would push Laughton to the wing where he’s been better IMO.

 

[Americanadian]

I wonder what Glass’s next contract will look like? When a team walks away, and he’s already been traded a few times, it doesn’t sound like he’d get very much on the open market BUT the center depth in free agency is pretty weak… I would definitely be interested in him, would push Laughton to the wing where he’s been better IMO.

Chicago walked away from Strome's 3.6M QO and he got 3.5M in UFA.

Seattle walked away from Geekie's 1.4M QO and he got 2Mx2 in UFA.

I would think he gets >2.5M given the limited supply in the market. What makes me hesitant is why wouldn't a team have just traded a 6th or 7th for his rights if they valued him at 2.5M+.

 

[Rob Brown]

And a guy who'll push back and drop the gloves.

Ehlers would be my choice over Boeser, but I don't think they can land either.

I thought I heard somewhere that the speculation was that Ehlers wanted to go somewhere 'quieter', so if that's the case he's obviously not coming here. I'd agree in that I'd rather Ehlers over Boeser, but Boeser with Nylander feeding him could be dangerous. I do expect him to land in Minnesota, though.

 

[mydnyte]

Explain to me how JGP is a cap dump in this C market. I am genuinely curious how you get to that conclusion. Also if you get a chance explain why NYI are desperate to get an expiring 5M contract off their books.

because he is not now, or has ever been a 'good' hockey player, or more than a 3rd liner, and there are plenty of C that can fill that role better and cheaper.

 

[rumman]

because he is not now, or has ever been a 'good' hockey player, or more than a 3rd liner, and there are plenty of C that can fill that role better and cheaper.

I think He’s a pretty solid player, he would be a great fit in the middle of the 3rd line, and no I don’t want a greedy JT back, sure a team friendly JT would be okay, but that doesn’t help fix the DNA…….

 

[Americanadian]

because he is not now, or has ever been a 'good' hockey player, or more than a 3rd liner, and there are plenty of C that can fill that role better and cheaper.

I don’t know how it’s even disputable that Pageau has been and still is a “good” hockey player. Who is out there that will be cheaper than Pageau that is better than him?

 

[Leaf Rocket]

Cale Makar isn’t a UFA until the summer of 2027.

and as one of my favourite defenseman, he aint ever going to be on the market until he's like 40.

 

[mydnyte]

I think He’s a pretty solid player, he would be a great fit in the middle of the 3rd line, and no I don’t want a greedy JT back, sure a team friendly JT would be okay, but that doesn’t help fix the DNA…….

Pageau's cap hit is 5 million, the Leafs havent even offered Tavares 5 mil, and we sure as heck shouldnt be paying a 3C 5 mil!! Even at 1/2 price, he's still a small, and underwhelming player.

 

[TMLAM34]

Tbh I would rather have Pageau in that 3C spot than JT…

 

[mydnyte]

I don’t know how it’s even disputable that Pageau has been and still is a “good” hockey player. Who is out there that will be cheaper than Pageau that is better than him?

Tavares may come in at 5 or less
Giroux
Suter
Roslovic
I'd take a few players over him though on the low pay scale to play 3 C though
Appleton (if he's still playing C)
Sturm
Gaudette
Faksa
Bjugstad

Unless Pageau comes at 1/2 price for Jarn/Kampf, I would not even consider him.