Roster Building/Team Building/Future Trade/Drafting thread.

[shortfuze]

Matthews bled this team for every penny and then took a 4 year deal instead of an 8. He won all the negotiations and guys like Crosby were taking far more team friendly deals he did the opposite.

He’s a ghost in the playoffs. Don’t worry. I was shaking my head after watching his playoff performance

So who would you have taken with that pick?

 

[shortfuze]

Don’t forget not doing shit in the playoffs over multiple years and throwing his teammates under the bus when he was the real floater for yet another playoff……

I don’t agree that he was doing nothing. He’s played great defensively. As I said he needs to do more offensively.

Read his comment whichever way you want.

 

[Dion TheFluff]

Pierre Lebrun is reporting that Tavares and Toronto aren’t close

Brisson says the market has “shifted” after seeing what’s out there

“Unless there was a lot of term attached to it, there’s no way Tavares signs for $5 million a year with the Leafs,” LeBrun said. “It’s gonna have to be more than that.”

he can kick rocks then, especially after what Duchene signed for.

 

[Americanadian]

3 big trades to shakeup the core:

To DAL: Matthews, Domi, Carlo
To NYI: N. Robertson, J. Robertson, Dumba
To TOR: Johnston, Dobson

To TBL: Nylander, McMann
To TOR: Cirelli, Bjorkstrand

To PHI: Woll, Cowan, Reaves (salary)
To TOR: Tippett, Hathaway

UFA:
Tavares+Marchand 12M (I am not sure if that's 4.5+7.5, 4+8, 5+7)
Raddysh 2Mx4
Tanev 2Mx4
Mangiapane 3Mx3
Perbix 2.75Mx4
Vladar 1.5Mx2

RFA:
Knies 6.5Mx3
Dobson 9.5Mx8

Knies-Johnston-Tippett
Mangiapane-Cirelli-Bjorkstrand
Marchand-Tavares-Raddysh
Tanev-Laughton-Hathaway

McCabe-Dobson
Rielly-Tanev
OEL-Perbix

Stolarz
Vladar

This leaves 2.86M for extras or if I'm off on salaries. The only UFA that feels like a stretch to sign is Perbix. All of Mangiapane, Tanev and Marchand have been heavily linked to Toronto. Tre signing Vladar if he deals one of Stolarz or Woll is probably a slam dunk.

If the Leafs can move out Rielly's money and bring in a better 2LD alongside Tanev that would be excellent. I do think pairing him with Tanev and giving him secondary matchups will help him a ton if he is not moved.

 

[58 Years No Cup]

Thats a definite low ball. Brock Nelson just got 7.5x3 years and hes just one year younger. I think Tavares could get similar on the open market.

Well then, toodle-lu.

 

[58 Years No Cup]

Pierre Lebrun is reporting that Tavares and Toronto aren’t close

Brisson says the market has “shifted” after seeing what’s out there

“Unless there was a lot of term attached to it, there’s no way Tavares signs for $5 million a year with the Leafs,” LeBrun said. “It’s gonna have to be more than that.”

 

[TMLAM34]

Would anyone entertain a trade around Cowan for Nazar?

Rumour has it, Chicago will be one of the teams aggressively pursuing Marner to play alongside Bedard. They also have the cap space.

Nazar, although small, is pretty aggressive on the puck, he’s a right handed center and can skate like the wind. Could slot into the second line center and play/keep up with Nylander.

 

[Americanadian]

Would anyone entertain a trade around Cowan for Nazar?

Rumour has it, Chicago will be one of the teams aggressively pursuing Marner to play alongside Bedard. They also have the cap space.

Nazar, although small, is pretty aggressive on the puck, he’s a right handed center and can skate like the wind. Could slot into the second line center and play/keep up with Nylander.

I doubt Chicago does that. Nazar is currently pencilled in as 2C. They drafted him 13th overall and he's basically developed exactly how they hoped.

 

[TMLAM34]

I doubt Chicago does that. Nazar is currently pencilled in as 2C. They drafted him 13th overall and he's basically developed exactly how they hoped.

Yeah, I’m just looking around at any potential solution for that second line center position. Going to be real hard to fill it. Not sure what the Leafs are going to do to address it, if they even can… Maybe Holinka will surprise us all…… But it’s looking more and more like we’ll be running it back with JT- Nylander.

 

[Americanadian]

Yeah, I’m just looking around at any potential solution for that second line center position. Going to be real hard to fill it. Not sure what the Leafs are going to do to address it, if they even can… Maybe Holinka will surprise us all…… But it’s looking more and more like we’ll be running it back with JT- Nylander.

As every day passes I'm more on board with Nylander+McMann for Cirelli+Bjorkstrand. You just wouldn't have to worry about 1/2C until Matthews contract expires. If you bring in Tavares you have the best C depth in the league.

Beyond that I'd be looking at Coyle for Laughton+Benoit or McMann+Benoit.

If that doesn't bring in Coyle I'd go down a step and use that same package for one of Colton or Roy and run a Marchand-Colton/Roy-Nylander line in hopes that either player can keep up offensively.

 

[Legion34]

I like how you traded Woll, and put him in your roster.

I mean. If we can pull it off I’m all for it

 

[rumman]

I don’t agree that he was doing nothing. He’s played great defensively. As I said he needs to do more offensively.

Read his comment whichever way you want.

Being oaid more than McDavid and his game resemble a Adam Lowry level of play, that’s not good dollars for performance in my book, in fact rather have Lowry, he’s a real captain…….

 

[rumman]

So who would you have taken with that pick?

That’s not the issue, it’s nie you know what he is shy continue doen the same path, if a good trade is out there you got to do it, let Captain Arrogant poison some other team’s dressing room…….

 

[TMLAM34]

As every day passes I'm more on board with Nylander+McMann for Cirelli+Bjorkstrand. You just wouldn't have to worry about 1/2C until Matthews contract expires. If you bring in Tavares you have the best C depth in the league.

Beyond that I'd be looking at Coyle for Laughton+Benoit or McMann+Benoit.

I’d be all in for something around Nylander for Cirelli. I just don’t see Tampa doing it tbh.

Coyle isn’t bad, just sucks spending assets for someone who will probably be here for 1 year and leave back to the US. Not to mention, we need to improve our speed, Coyle definitely doesn’t do that. I can also see Colorado moving off from Colton and Wood before wanting to move Coyle.

I keep going back to Sillinger as someone who makes a lot of sense from both sides if Woll is involved. We need someone who can step into that 2nd/3rd line center role, Columbus needs a starting goaltender, Woll. They have Monahan, Fantilli and Jenner already down the middle along with a couple other young players. Woll + McMann for Sillinger makes a lot of sense for both sides IMO.

 

[rumman]

3 big trades to shakeup the core:

To DAL: Matthews, Domi, Carlo
To NYI: N. Robertson, J. Robertson, Dumba
To TOR: Johnston, Dobson

To TBL: Nylander, McMann
To TOR: Cirelli, Bjorkstrand

To PHI: Woll, Cowan, Reaves (salary)
To TOR: Tippett, Hathaway

UFA:
Tavares+Marchand 12M (I am not sure if that's 4.5+7.5, 4+8, 5+7)
Raddysh 2Mx4
Tanev 2Mx4
Mangiapane 3Mx3
Perbix 2.75Mx4
Vladar 1.5Mx2

RFA:
Knies 6.5Mx3
Dobson 9.5Mx8

Knies-Johnston-Tippett
Mangiapane-Cirelli-Bjorkstrand
Marchand-Tavares-Raddysh
Tanev-Laughton-Hathaway

McCabe-Dobson
Rielly-Tanev
OEL-Perbix

Stolarz
Vladar

This leaves 2.86M for extras or if I'm off on salaries. The only UFA that feels like a stretch to sign is Perbix. All of Mangiapane, Tanev and Marchand have been heavily linked to Toronto. Tre signing Vladar if he deals one of Stolarz or Woll is probably a slam dunk.

If the Leafs can move out Rielly's money and bring in a better 2LD alongside Tanev that would be excellent. I do think pairing him with Tanev and giving him secondary matchups will help him a ton if he is not moved.

Still got to move Mo, and what did you do with Benny?

 

[rumman]

Well then, toodle-lu.

Brock Nelson has good DNA…….

 

[Americanadian]

Still got to move Mo, and what did you do with Benny?

I am under the impression that Rielly isn't waiving. Benoit is 7D or moved.

 

[rumman]

Would anyone entertain a trade around Cowan for Nazar?

Rumour has it, Chicago will be one of the teams aggressively pursuing Marner to play alongside Bedard. They also have the cap space.

Nazar, although small, is pretty aggressive on the puck, he’s a right handed center and can skate like the wind. Could slot into the second line center and play/keep up with Nylander.

Hawks better find the second coming of Dave Semenko to ride shotgun with Bedard and Mitch making up 2/3rds of their top line…..

 

[Americanadian]

I’d be all in for something around Nylander for Cirelli. I just don’t see Tampa doing it tbh.

Tampa is reportedly looking for a 2RW behind Kucherov. Seravalli reported that they'd be willing to part with a player that would help Buffalo make the playoffs today to acquire Peterka. If you go down their roster and look at who has trade protection and who doesn't it can really only be 1 guy (Cirelli). They also have Paul, Gourde and Geekie who can play 2/3C. Nylander would give them the RS one-timer replacement for Stamkos on the PP as well.

I proposed this trade on the main board in the Peterka/Cirelli thread and the few Tampa fans that responded said that it would work for Tampa.

Coyle isn’t bad, just sucks spending assets for someone who will probably be here for 1 year and leave back to the US. Not to mention, we need to improve our speed, Coyle definitely doesn’t do that. I can also see Colorado moving off from Colton and Wood before wanting to move Coyle.

Agree to all.

 

[rumman]

I am under the impression that Rielly isn't waiving. Benoit is 7D or moved.

If they leaned hard enough he’d be begging for a trade by Christmas, book it…..

 

[Malachi Crunch]

Would anyone entertain a trade around Cowan for Nazar?

Without a shadow of a doubt.

 

[TMLAM34]

Tampa is reportedly looking for a 2RW behind Kucherov. Seravalli reported that they'd be willing to part with a player that would help Buffalo make the playoffs today to acquire Peterka. If you go down their roster and look at who has trade protection and who doesn't it can really only be 1 guy (Cirelli). They also have Paul, Gourde and Geekie who can play 2/3C. Nylander would give them the RS one-timer replacement for Stamkos on the PP as well.

I proposed this trade on the main board in the Peterka/Cirelli thread and the few Tampa fans that responded said that it would work for Tampa.

Agree to all.

Would you keep Bjorkstrand or look at moving him? If we acquired Cirelli, it would allow Matthews to have more o-zone starts while Cirelli takes the tough matchups, another win-win. Who would you look at to play alongside Cirelli as they would need to be able to provide a solid two-way game?

 

[Americanadian]

Would you keep Bjorkstrand or look at moving him? If we acquired Cirelli, it would allow Matthews to have more o-zone starts while Cirelli takes the tough matchups, another win-win. Who would you look at to play alongside Cirelli as they would need to be able to provide a solid two-way game?

I’d keep Bjorkstrand. RS RW who is very strong defensively and good for 20 goals/25 assists. I’d be looking to sign him too.

I’d be looking at:
Knies-Matthews-Domi
Mangiapane-Cirelli-Bjorkstrand
Marchand-Tavares-Tippett

 

[Americanadian]

If they leaned hard enough he’d be begging for a trade by Christmas, book it…..

If that were the case I’m not factoring in a mid-season trade in my start of season roster.

 

[Dreakmur]

I find it interesting that so many opposing fans say we have nothing to trade.

Easton Cowan is a good prospect and very likely to become at least a solid NHL player.

Not saying we should trade him but if he was made available, there would definitely be teams interested in acquiring him.

Like imagine you offered some team Easton Cowan, Ben Danford and Nick Robertson. That's some nice young talent.

Nothing figuratively. Not nothing literally.

Few picks.
Few valuable prospects.
Few roster players who are both expendable and valuable.