Roster Building/Team Building/Future Trade/Drafting thread.

[Maple Leaf]

Cap space is like gold. Don’t blow it all and get teams In a desperate situation. Just like we have a 1st for Carolina to take Marleau

I mean if it was me I would want the best contract I ain't taking no home town discount

 

[Americanadian]

Yep. I don't dislike many of them individually but it's a poor mix. And if they want to take advantage of turning Marner capspace into more depth, it's going to require bodies out the door. The added advantage is the potential to maybe get some extra mid round picks plus even more capspace

My current mock forward lineup is:

Knies-Matthews-P. Kane
Laughton-Bennett-Nylander
Pospisil-Tavares-Eberle
Haula-Sissons-T. Raddysh
Holmberg

Kane 2M base salary+2M performance bonus
Raddysh 2Mx4
Bennett 8.5Mx8

Jarnkrok+Robertson+something minor for Eberle - I can also see a mutual contract termination for Jarnkrok after his bonus is paid out. He will be owed league minimum after July 1 and could make more money if he goes to UFA and signs a 1Mx1 somewhere.

Domi+ for Sissons - maybe Nashville thinks he can fill their 2C hole and they take it 1-for-1

Kampf for Haula

McMann for D. Raddysh

Benoit for Pospisil

 

[rumman]

I'm no Dubas fan but I've been surprised at how much Hyman has scored in Edmonton

At the time the contract looked like an overpayment but it's aging unbelievably well


The bottom 6 needs a clean out and major rethink, we need to build lines that are good at something not just a bunch of vanilla guys who are OK but don't fit together

Hard for Hyman to score shen he was yhe only one on that line that would ho into the corners to get pucks, his linemate in Edmonton are not allergic to corners or retrieving pucks……

 

[Kiwi]

Hard for Hyman to score shen he was yhe only one on that line that would ho into the corners to get pucks, his linemate in Edmonton are not allergic to corners or retrieving pucks……

He played with some bloody good linemates here, anybody saying they believed he could be a 50 goal scorer before he left is a liar

 

[rumman]

He played with some bloody good linemates here, anybody saying they believed he could be a 50 goal scorer before he left is a liar

Of those bloody good linemates who went into the corners and retrieved pucks?

 

[thusk]

It literately has nothing to do with that... Domi sucks ass defensively, now put him up against the McDavids/Barkovs/Kucherov/ etc and he gets exposed and the line gets dragged down.. Being good in the o-zone and bad in the d-zone isn't good enough...

That is why he's not good enough. Has nothing to do with Matthews cap hit.. but ok.

Do you really think than 40 y/o perry, evander Kane should be better defensively than Domi. Drouin with mackinnon, etc... Why other superstars are able to do this but Matthews should be destroy if he have to do the same thing than the rest of superstars?

and Like dreakmur said as C you're more exposed in the defensive side than a winger...

 

[weems]

Seravelli on the fan right now, they talked Bennett and he said this talk of him getting 10 million per isn't rooted in reality.

He predicts something like 7x7.5 or 7x8.

 

[barilko05]

I'm all over Bennett for 7.5-8. When you start talking 9 or 10, I'm out. That really doesn't make much sense, especially for the next 8 years. Plus, even 7.5 only works if JT takes a big haircut to less than 6.

 

[LaPlante94]

Signing Bennett to reunite him and McDavid next year. Next years team gonna be pretty nasty eh.

Knies-Matthews-Nylander
Bennett-McDavid-McMann
Marchand-Tavares-Cowan

NHL gonna go into a lockout because they're haters.

 

[Menzinger]

Seravelli on the fan right now, they talked Bennett and he said this talk of him getting 10 million per isn't rooted in reality.

He predicts something like 7x7.5 or 7x8.

I'd be interested in that. Though interestingly

 

[Metroid]

I'd be interested in that. Though interestingly

He does always love to go eat at Antler .. if signs here he can go more often! (Friend of mine works there and tells me all the time when hockey players go there) Lol

 

[Kiwi]

Of those bloody good linemates who went into the corners and retrieved pucks?

No there one of the best goalscorers of his generation and one of the best playmaking wingers over the last decade

 

[LeafChief]

My current mock forward lineup is:

Knies-Matthews-P. Kane
Laughton-Bennett-Nylander
Pospisil-Tavares-Eberle
Haula-Sissons-T. Raddysh
Holmberg

Kane 2M base salary+2M performance bonus
Raddysh 2Mx4
Bennett 8.5Mx8

Jarnkrok+Robertson+something minor for Eberle - I can also see a mutual contract termination for Jarnkrok after his bonus is paid out. He will be owed league minimum after July 1 and could make more money if he goes to UFA and signs a 1Mx1 somewhere.

Domi+ for Sissons - maybe Nashville thinks he can fill their 2C hole and they take it 1-for-1

Kampf for Haula

McMann for D. Raddysh

Benoit for Pospisil

I like it.

I'd love to see Jeannot on that 4th line though.

Don't really care much for Sissons. I think it was you that mentioned that Raddysh had his best year with Toews.

I'd like to see what you listed here but swap out that 4th line with Jeannot - Toews - Raddysh.

I think Pospisil would look really good beside Tavares.

 

[aingefan]

If Robertson was a full time player, with just one more tool (Marchand gene), that would be a huge start.

I dunno, Ulf, he’s pretty greasy. Happy to take the body.
I’m torn abit because I always want draftees to flourish here, but he’s always the first lineup casualty.
If the Leafs had a RS defensively responsible centre, I’d staple Robertson to him.

 

[Torontonian]

Do you really think than 40 y/o perry, evander Kane should be better defensively than Domi. Drouin with mackinnon, etc... Why other superstars are able to do this but Matthews should be destroy if he have to do the same thing than the rest of superstars?

and Like dreakmur said as C you're more exposed in the defensive side than a winger...

Both Kane and Perry are better players then Domi.

 

[thusk]

Both Kane and Perry are better players then Domi.

Perry is nothing more than a 4th line 25-30 pts player. He's actually bring similar game than what pacioretty gave to leafs last season...come on

Just stop try to find excuse for Matthews, if he can elevate the game from the guy around him, he didn't deserve to be considerate like a superstars sorry...

Mcdavid/draisaitl did it
crosby did it
Ovechkin did it
patrick Kane did it
Eichel did it
mackinnon did it
Barkov/Tkachuk did it

When do we should stop finding excuse for Matthews? He should be the guy carrying his line, it should not be knies like last playoff or any random player who will play with them, it should be Matthews and nothing else.

 

[Torontonian]

Perry is nothing more than a 4th line 25-30 pts player. He's actually bring similar game than what pacioretty gave to leafs last season...come on

Just stop try to find excuse for Matthews, if he can elevate the game from the guy around him, he didn't deserve to be considerate like a superstars sorry...

Mcdavid/draisaitl did it
crosby did it
Ovechkin did it
patrick Kane did it
Eichel did it
mackinnon did it
Barkov/Tkachuk did it

When do we should stop finding excuse for Matthews? He should be the guy carrying his line, it should not be knies like last playoff or any random player who will play with them, it should be Matthews and nothing else.

Who made any excuses for Matthews? I stated Domi isn't good enough to play on a teams top line.. You're bringing up nonsense. You need better then Domi on your top line to win.. Domi on the 3rd line wing spot is how you have depth.

Also, Knies really didn't carry the top line, he had 7 points in 13 games, and 34 had 11 in 13.. but ok..
Last playoffs, Matthews also had more point then Knies.

 

[Dreakmur]

Both Kane and Perry are better players then Domi.

Evander Kane is definitely better than Max Domi…. And Corey Perry is definitely worse.

 

[Torontonian]

Evander Kane is definitely better than Max Domi…. And Corey Perry is definitely worse.

Corey Perry has hit a different level this playoffs. Little bit of a throwback from him

 

[Dreakmur]

Corey Perry has hit a different level this playoffs. Little bit of a throwback from him

That’s great, and he’s still not as good as Max Domi.

Perry is being elevated by his elite linemate, which is the crux of this discussion, right? If Auston Matthews elevates Domi, that’s an effective first line.

 

[Torontonian]

That’s great, and he’s still not as good as Max Domi.

Perry is being elevated by his elite linemate, which is the crux of this discussion, right? If Auston Matthews elevates Domi, that’s an effective first line.

The crux of the discussion is actually Domi not being good enough to play on your top line, It somehow was turned into "Matthews need to be better" completely not addressing the original post.

The point is depth wins you Stanley Cups, Domi being on our 3rd line at least provides you with better depth (as a winger as you have pointed out, even though I don't think he fits on the team, maybe that changes if he's on the wing). Toronto has to find a way to add better players in the top 6 to make that depth.

 

[Menzinger]

Domi can't be in the top six in the fall if they want to be a better team.

 

[Dreakmur]

The crux of the discussion is actually Domi not being good enough to play on your top line, It somehow was turned into "Matthews need to be better" completely not addressing the original post.

He is good enough, which he showed in the past. In a pretty decent sample size, Domi actually elevated Matthews more than Marner did.

The point is depth wins you Stanley Cups, Domi being on our 3rd line provides you with better depth. Toronto has to find a way to add better players in the top 6 to make that depth.

Domi would be great as the 3rd line winger… but that only works if we have someone better for the top line. We don’t have that, and we likely can’t get it without sacrificing depth.

Domi allows us to fill the top line with an adequate player while allowing cap space to add depth.

 

[jaric1862]

Wonder if we could circle back on Brayden Schenn

 

[Torontonian]

He is good enough, which he showed in the past. In a pretty decent sample size, Domi actually elevated Matthews more than Marner did.



Domi would be great as the 3rd line winger… but that only works if we have someone better for the top line. We don’t have that, and we likely can’t get it without sacrificing depth.

Domi allows us to fill the top line with an adequate player while allowing cap space to add depth.

I really don't think finding a player better then Domi is that hard. It might be hard via free agency, but Toronto in its 8 year run has never traded for a proper top 6 forward... There seems to always be a hole in the top 6 from allowing them to have enough depth.

Toronto's entire player personal decision has been putrid for the bottom 6, I don't recall the last time Toronto hit on a FA and they brought something more then they are worth..

Edmonton for example trades for Adam Henrique and resigns him for 3M for 2 years, (4g & 2a this playoffs) and Toronto is paying Kampf 2.4m to be a healthy scratch. The way Toronto has operated in FA and spent their money has been awful. Which Is why I don't really trust Treliving and the staff to spend money in FA trying to plug important holes.

They have so much deadcap space wasted in vanilla/useless players.