Roster Building/Team Building/Future Trade/Drafting thread.

[Kurtz]

I call it the "Tank for McDavid" special:

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Ive heard Marchand is looking for 8 x 3.

 

[Kurtz]

I'd be shocked if Tre didn't aggressively pursue it. Exactly what he wants in his depth players

Tre talked about guys being overwhelmed by the moment - Toews would be a good antidote for that.

 

[The Shadow]

I know we all have a dream that we will sign McDavid next summer

According to John Shannon who follows Edmonton he says the players are treated very well there and as soon as Draisaitl signed his extension it was basically a given that McDavid will follow.

I was feeling confident that somehow McDavid would want to help his childhood team finally win that cup

 

[rumman]

I know we all have a dream that we will sign McDavid next summer

According to John Shannon who follows Edmonton he says the players are treated very well there and as soon as Draisaitl signed his extension it was basically a given that McDavid will follow.

I was feeling confident that somehow McDavid would want to help his childhood team finally win that cup

It was always only a dream, I wonder if 34 watches ghe playoffs and see just how far he is from McJesus, probably not…….

 

[Americanadian]

If Bennett does walk to Toronto I am 100% convinced Florida grabs McBain to replace him and they just re-sign Marchand at like 3x6M. Either an offer sheet at 4.68M (2026 2nd) or they offer Samoskevich+.

 

[Pinkcat]

I know we all have a dream that we will sign McDavid next summer

According to John Shannon who follows Edmonton he says the players are treated very well there and as soon as Draisaitl signed his extension it was basically a given that McDavid will follow.

I was feeling confident that somehow McDavid would want to help his childhood team finally win that cup

Didn't Gretzky say he regretted not joining the Leafs when he was in his prime. I don't have the reference before you ask just something I remember reading.

 

[Fogelhund]

If Bennett does walk to Toronto I am 100% convinced Florida grabs McBain to replace him and they just re-sign Marchand at like 3x6M. Either an offer sheet at 4.68M (2026 2nd) or they offer Samoskevich+.

Who would you rather have?

Bennett @ $9 mil

Or

McBain @ $4 mil?

 

[Americanadian]

Who would you rather have?

Bennett @ $9 mil

Or

McBain @ $4 mil?

Depends which team. For Florida it’s probably a difference of McBain at 4.68M or Bennett at 7.5M and you trust that you can transpose your team culture on McBain. Florida would take McBain.

For Toronto it’s probably Bennett at 8.5M or McBain at 4.68M but you need Bennett to transpose Florida’s culture on Toronto’s locker room. Toronto would take Bennett.

I trust that Florida can turn McBain into a version of Bennett. I don’t trust that Toronto can do the same.

Further to this I think Florida has the wingers to insulate McBain, Toronto would stick him at 3C with no one.

 

[Ianturnedbull]

Tre talked about guys being overwhelmed by the moment - Toews would be a good antidote for that.

Pretty risky...

 

[Torontonian]

I know we all have a dream that we will sign McDavid next summer

According to John Shannon who follows Edmonton he says the players are treated very well there and as soon as Draisaitl signed his extension it was basically a given that McDavid will follow.

I was feeling confident that somehow McDavid would want to help his childhood team finally win that cup

I'm not a fan of punting this year due to being hopefully good players don't resign with their current team. If McDavid / Kaprizov are there next July 1st, you find a way to make the money work.

You could punt this year away... if McDavid doesn't sign on July 1st or in the summertime, he could always resign in February

 

[Punch Drunk Loov]

It's funny that we have a lot of cap for once. And we could still use help dumping more bad contracts: Jarnkrok, Kampf, Reaves

5.8M on not much of anything

 

[Gallagbi]

If the Knies numbers are accurate, either should be done yesterday. Unless they're trying to wiggle it down to 7m-7.5m for paying him all in bonuses.

What impact would a press conference have on an insider?

 

[SprDaVE]

It's funny that we have a lot of cap for once. And we could still use help dumping more bad contracts: Jarnkrok, Kampf, Reaves

5.8M on not much of anything

That cap space can evaporate pretty fast if Treliving uses free agency to fill up his roster. I really hope he doesn't do something dumb. He had some baaaad signings in Calgary.

Not sure I'd qualify Jarnkrok as a bad contract. I think most teams would take him on for 1 year. He had a rough season mostly injured but he did ok when he was back. I'd dump him just to be able to change the team in every way but I'm ok if he stays with all things considered.

 

[Americanadian]

That cap space can evaporate pretty fast if Treliving uses free agency to fill up his roster. I really hope he doesn't do something dumb. He had some baaaad signings in Calgary.

Not sure I'd qualify Jarnkrok as a bad contract. I think most teams would take him on for 1 year. He had a rough season mostly injured but he did ok when he was back. I'd dump him just to be able to change the team in every way but I'm ok if he stays with all things considered.

Outside of Huberdeau, which sounds like an ownership signing, his latest big UFA deals have aged fairly well. Markstrom was dealt for a 1st, Coleman could be traded at positive value right now, Kadri has positive value right now. Weegar is a great contract. Tanev was dealt at positive value. Obviously Brouwer and Neal are the big misses but he appears to have been better later on.

 

[SprDaVE]

Outside of Huberdeau, which sounds like an ownership signing, his latest big UFA deals have aged fairly well. Markstrom was dealt for a 1st, Coleman could be traded at positive value right now, Kadri has positive value right now. Weegar is a great contract. Tanev was dealt at positive value. Obviously Brouwer and Neal are the big misses but he appears to have been better later on.

You're forgetting players like Michael Stone, Hiller, Raymond and Engelland. Frolik was also a little rough with the 5 year deal at the time but he was a solid underrated 2-way player.

All it takes is one bad gamble and you're dead in the water with that player. This team needs to shift into a smarter way of targetting players and getting efficient value regardless.

 

[Americanadian]

You're forgetting players like Michael Stone, Hiller, Raymond and Engelland. Frolik was also a little rough with the 5 year deal at the time but he was a solid underrated 2-way player.

He’s clearly improved since then though which I mentioned. His last 5 years have more hits than misses.

 

[Americanadian]

All it takes is one bad gamble and you're dead in the water with that player. This team needs to shift into a smarter way of targetting players and getting efficient value regardless.

Every UFA signing is a gamble though. Look at Florida - they are still paying Keith Yandle this season.

 

[SprDaVE]

He’s clearly improved since then though which I mentioned. His last 5 years have more hits than misses.

He also hasn't found many great fits either. Throwing out 1 year deals isn't a bad thing at all, but Reaves, Klingberg and Hakanpaa were awful and only used up valuable cap for broken players and prevented other potential moves or callups. Let's not forget the terrible Kampf contract either.

There are always gambles out there and using free agency should not be the main tool this off-season is all I'm saying.

 

[Gallagbi]

I wonder if Nick Robertson gets you Kevin Hayes. Throw Domi on that wing and you have a pretty unique boom/bust 3rd line. They won't find their end, but they'll score some goals and throw the body a bit

It's far fetched, but I also wonder if there's a world where Mo for Erik Karlsson makes sense.

 

[sxvnert]

Bennett will only use the leafs to drive up his price to the Panthers. Hopefully Tre only offers him 8.5-9m max and moves on.

 

[Americanadian]

He also hasn't found many great fits either. Throwing out 1 year deals isn't a bad thing at all, but Reaves, Klingberg and Hakanpaa were awful and only used up valuable cap for terrible players and prevented other potential moves or callups. Let's not forget the terrible Kampf contract either.

Completely agree here although Hakanpaa and Klingberg on LTIR and Reaves costing the Leafs 200k against the cap are hardly an issue compared to the contracts across the league that actually handicap teams.

The Kampf contract is brutal but they can likely move off him this summer without attaching an asset.

Who have these players blocked from making the Leafs? Steeves got his chances, Robertson got his chances.

 

[Americanadian]

I wonder if Nick Robertson gets you Kevin Hayes. Throw Domi on that wing and you have a pretty unique boom/bust 3rd line. They won't find their end, but they'll score some goals and throw the body a bit

Considering Pittsburgh received an asset to take on his contract I would say you could get him for nothing. I'm not sure if the Leafs should be acquiring old, slow, unproductive players at this stage though.

 

[Americanadian]

There are always gambles out there and using free agency should not be the main tool this off-season is all I'm saying.

Couldn't agree more.

 

[Gallagbi]

Considering Pittsburgh received an asset to take on his contract I would say you could get him for nothing. I'm not sure if the Leafs should be acquiring old, slow, unproductive players at this stage though.

I wondered about a sweetener coming back, but didn't want to get greedy. I'm not sure there's a market for Robertson either, so my thought was more flyer for flyer and then ride out the final year of Hayes since he only has 1 year left.

Hayes is old and slow, but he's big and can handle heavy games, which is what Berube seems to want to play

 

[rumman]

Who would you rather have?

Bennett @ $9 mil

Or

McBain @ $4 mil?

Both……..