Roster Building/Team Building/Future Trade/Drafting thread.

[Fogelhund]

I see it as a potential risk, but his physical play and speed complement the roster well enough to make it worth it in my mind if it comes with an asset that helps fill another hole.
I can see him fitting on AM’s line at times, complementing JT. And more importantly being built for the playoff style that the coach employs.

He put up 27 points this year, after 20 last year, and one point in the playoffs.... he's a fourth line player... not someone who you can put up with AM at times, or a compliment to JT.

Under no circumstances can you have a $5.25 mil cap hit guy, on your fourth line. It was bad enough with Kampf's cap hit this season, let along someone with double the cap hit. You must get value out of your players and their contracts.

The only way this makes any sense, is if he's bought out, and we can sign him for around $1.5 mil. A second round pick does nothing for us for years, so that's not filling another hole immediately.

 

[Americanadian]

If there’s legs to MTL considering an Anderson buyout, I’d look into taking on the full freight if a second was added.

Then I’d happily add a second to Marners rights to LV for Karlsson.

Both have two years of term and add speed, experience and help stretch the line up.

Knies Matthews
Karlsson Nylander
Tavares* Anderson (pretty predictable resign)
McMann Laughton

Domi can compliment the top or the third line. McMann can complement the secord or third.

This is predicated on rolling four lines, and JT resigning. I’m perfectly fine and confident that Laughton is a perfectly fine 3C, but love that C depth.

What’s the logical reason for MTL to buyout Anderson? With Price on LTIR they have over 16M in cap space.

 

[mydnyte]

Cap space most likely won't be an issue but I wonder about a Nylander for Byfield+Clarke deal. The team gets younger, much cheaper and the Leafs acquire a PP1 QB.

Byfield+Clarke+5M to spend in UFA for Nylander would be a good pivot for this team and they'd be selling on Nylander at his highest value.

Or a 3-way deal:

To TOR: Peterka, Byfield
To LAK: Nylander
To BUF: Clarke, Woll

i'd rather cut Buf out and keep Clarke and Byfield ...but, Nylander wouldnt be enough to get them both. ...doubt they would even move Byfield straight up for Nylander on potential vs salary

 

[Americanadian]

i'd rather cut Buf out and keep Clarke and Byfield ...but, Nylander wouldnt be enough to get them both. ...doubt they would even move Byfield straight up for Nylander on potential vs salary

I’ve shifted my focus to Nylander for McTavish

 

[namttebih]

I'll start by saying that I realize that it's probably (almost assuredly) not going to happen. But I'm bored and have been trying different ways of retooling. Nothing I do makes the team a contender for either next season or in the long term. I think that we're all in need of a little levity, so let's see your NHL 2025 ideas for an excellerated rebuild.

Matthews 50% retained
To Utah for
Cooley
Guenther
4OA

Nylander
Rielly
To Nashville for
5OA
23OA
26OA


Sign Marner 1 x $19
Promise to trade him to a contender at the TDL. Tell him that his legacy will be fixed. Basically the opposite of Sundin at the end of his career.
FOR
2 1STs

Jake McCabe
To Buf for
Byram

 

[SprDaVE]

I get that this is just for fun and a lot of uncertainty doesn't help but there's just no way Nylander or Matthews are traded, we know this right?

There's probably a better chance the Leafs re-sign Marner than trade any of those 2 players.

 

[aingefan]

He put up 27 points this year, after 20 last year, and one point in the playoffs.... he's a fourth line player... not someone who you can put up with AM at times, or a compliment to JT.

Under no circumstances can you have a $5.25 mil cap hit guy, on your fourth line. It was bad enough with Kampf's cap hit this season, let along someone with double the cap hit. You must get value out of your players and their contracts.

The only way this makes any sense, is if he's bought out, and we can sign him for around $1.5 mil. A second round pick does nothing for us for years, so that's not filling another hole immediately.

It’s more about his profile fitting with other players. I think he can hang with better talent and get back up to around .5ppg, which would be fine value.
Again, pending bringing a decent asset back that I’d use in trade to buy other distressed assets.

 

[aingefan]

What’s the logical reason for MTL to buyout Anderson? With Price on LTIR they have over 16M in cap space.

I’m referencing reports cited by @Fogelhund.

 

[mydnyte]

I’ve shifted my focus to Nylander for McTavish

Nylander is a great performer who doesnt ever succumb to pressure and is just in his peak, he's what we build around not trade for a shiny new toy.

 

[Americanadian]

I’m referencing reports cited by @Fogelhund.

@Fogelhund where is this reported?

 

[Americanadian]

Nylander is a great performer who doesnt ever succumb to pressure and is just in his peak, he's what we build around not trade for a shiny new toy.

Sarcasm?

 

[Fogelhund]

What’s the logical reason for MTL to buyout Anderson?

A desire to get better. Clearly be players in Free Agency.

Whether they do it, or not... who knows. Whether the rumour source is legitimate, or not, who knows.

I mean, either they are going to do it, or they aren't.... what we think about it doesn't matter too much. If they do, we should be interested at the right price. If they don't, enjoy the contract Montreal.

 

[mydnyte]

Sarcasm?

absolutely not. Nylander still has untapped potential.
he can go invisible from time to time, as every player does, but, he also has a knack for scoring big goals

 

[Fogelhund]

I get that this is just for fun and a lot of uncertainty doesn't help but there's just no way Nylander or Matthews are traded, we know this right?

There's probably a better chance the Leafs re-sign Marner than trade any of those 2 players.

It certainly doesn't seem likely to happen, and agree with you on all fronts. It's hard for NHL management to part with legitimate stars, even if you don't succeed in winning the cup.... it's a lot like investment fund managers and their desire to be closet indexers... as long as your close...

 

[Fogelhund]

@Fogelhund where is this reported?

I saw a reel on one of the social media platforms, where one of the talking heads mentioned it.

 

[namttebih]

100% That's why I started a different thread and didn't put it in this one. Just for fun. We all know that fun is not allowed in Leaf land.

 

[mydnyte]

@Fogelhund where is this reported?

Anderson's cap hit is 5.5 and has a best season in Montreal was 21 goals and 11 assists, 3 years ago.
he has less goals than Nick Robertson the last 2 seasons, and both had 15 last year, though Nicky played in far less games and lower in the lineup

why wouldnt they want to buy him out? trading him means adding an asset to unload him, and at 5.5 with 2 years left thats a 1st

 

[Americanadian]

absolutely not. Nylander still has untapped potential.
he can go invisible from time to time, as every player does, but, he also has a knack for scoring big goals

He’s a great player but to suggest he doesn’t EVER succumb to pressure is crazy. He was outscored 4-1 at 5v5 in the last 4 games of the Florida series. He was the 5th highest paid forward in the NHL this season and he was on the ice for 1 5v5 goal and had 0 points in the last 4 games of the season.

 

[Americanadian]

Anderson's cap hit is 5.5 and has a best season in Montreal was 21 goals and 11 assists, 3 years ago.
he has less goals than Nick Robertson the last 2 seasons, and both had 15 last year, though Nicky played in far less games and lower in the lineup

why wouldnt they want to buy him out? trading him means adding an asset to unload him, and at 5.5 with 2 years left thats a 1st

They don’t need to do anything with him. They can just hold onto him. They don’t need cap space. If they buy him out they’ll have money left over for 2 seasons after he’s gone when they’re paying big money to Demidov and Hutson. If they just don’t want him on the roster their best decision would be sending him to the AHL over spending an asset to dump him or buying him out and taking a cap penalty until 2029.

 

[rumman]

Anderson's full cap hit is $5.25 mil. We just can't afford that. Even at half that, it doesn't provide value.

send them Kampf in return, your shit for our shit...........

 

[rumman]

I’ve shifted my focus to Nylander for McTavish

problem is McTavish is always injured, guy's made of glass.............

 

[rumman]

I'll start by saying that I realize that it's probably (almost assuredly) not going to happen. But I'm bored and have been trying different ways of retooling. Nothing I do makes the team a contender for either next season or in the long term. I think that we're all in need of a little levity, so let's see your NHL 2025 ideas for an excellerated rebuild.

Matthews 50% retained
To Utah for
Cooley
Guenther
4OA

Nylander
Rielly
To Nashville for
5OA
23OA
26OA


Sign Marner 1 x $19
Promise to trade him to a contender at the TDL. Tell him that his legacy will be fixed. Basically the opposite of Sundin at the end of his career.
FOR
2 1STs

Jake McCabe
To Buf for
Byram

your building around the core player who's the biggest problem come playoff time, I don't see how that's a good idea..........

 

[rumman]

I get that this is just for fun and a lot of uncertainty doesn't help but there's just no way Nylander or Matthews are traded, we know this right?

There's probably a better chance the Leafs re-sign Marner than trade any of those 2 players.

never say never, but yeah sadly highly unlikely...........

 

[rumman]

Sarcasm?

there isn't a player in this core I'd build around, all talented quitters imho...........

 

[mydnyte]

He’s a great player but to suggest he doesn’t EVER succumb to pressure is crazy. He was outscored 4-1 at 5v5 in the last 4 games of the Florida series. He was the 5th highest paid forward in the NHL this season and he was on the ice for 1 5v5 goal and had 0 points in the last 4 games of the season.

...and his left winger was the worst player on the ice in every game except for 1 pass.
this happens to all players on occasion. Aho is a better defensive player than Nylander, and he's been on for quite a few goals against, and not producing much, and he's a #1C, not a #2RWer