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If this team once again fails to proceed very far in the playoffs, what would you want them to do?

  • Do nothing, run it back

    Votes: 16 10.5%
  • Make changes to the offense, top 6 forward, better bottom six, but keep the core

    Votes: 10 6.5%
  • Make changes to the offense, including moving core players

    Votes: 57 37.3%
  • Make changes to the defense

    Votes: 10 6.5%
  • Do a retool, including moving core players

    Votes: 74 48.4%
  • Ban the guy who keeps making jinx prediction posts.

    Votes: 20 13.1%

  • Total voters
    153
What’s Jeanott and B. Tanev supposed to get? I definitely can see us being interested if they make it to ufa.
Jeannot: 1.4Mx2 - I'll bet every dollar I have that he gets more than this. His value has always been much higher around the league.

Tanev: 2.2Mx2

Link to all contract projection: AFP Contract Projections 2025-26
 
Robertson for Marchessault
Something for Kopitar

Marchessault hits, he shoots, he scores, Nashville might not be the right place for him, he's a Conn Smythe winner, he's a cup winner, and his contract fits perfectly for 2nd RW.

Kopitar is a cup winner and does everything you need as a top 6 center in the playoffs, and his contract expires 2026, so it gives you a shot to go McDavid hunting.

#1 and #2 targets this offseason. Do it yesterday.

Cowan Matthews Nylander
Knies Kopitar Marchessault
McMann Tavares Domi
Lorentz Laughton Jarnkrok
Holmberg

Reilly Carlo
McCabe Tanev
OEL Benoit
Myers

Stolarz
Woll
 
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If Islanders offered us Dobson+Horvat for Nylander would you take it?
Dobson, given age, position and size, is likely more valuable than Nylander in a trade. Dobson scored 70 points in his age 23/24 season. Nylander didn't accomplish that until he was 25.

Horvat for Nylander would probably be a fair 1 for 1.

Minor note on Horvat: he did win an OHL championship with Domi and Stolarz.
 
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Robertson for Marchessault
Something for Kopitar.

Marchessault hits, he shoots, he scores, Nashville might not be the right place for him, he's a Conn Smythe winner, he's a cup winner, and his contract fits perfectly for 2nd RW.

Kopitar cup winner and does everything you need as a top 6 center, and his contract expires and gives you a shot to go McDavid hunting.

#1 and #2 targets this offseason. Do it yesterday.

Cowan Matthews Nylander
Knies Kopitar Marchessault

If we can pull these off, that would be great. Even if we can get the rumoured Marner sign and trade done with Vegas and grab Karlsson as our defensive #2C to play with Willy, and drop Tavares to the 3rd line, we’d be in pretty good shape.

I’d like to avoid going big spending on future long term bloated contracts like the ones Bennett and Boeser are about to get.
 
Robertson for Marchessault
Something for Kopitar

Marchessault hits, he shoots, he scores, Nashville might not be the right place for him, he's a Conn Smythe winner, he's a cup winner, and his contract fits perfectly for 2nd RW.

Kopitar is a cup winner and does everything you need as a top 6 center in the playoffs, and his contract expires 2026, so it gives you a shot to go McDavid hunting.

#1 and #2 targets this offseason. Do it yesterday.

Cowan Matthews Nylander
Knies Kopitar Marchessault
McMann Tavares Domi
Lorentz Laughton Jarnkrok
Holmberg

Reilly Carlo
McCabe Tanev
OEL Benoit
Myers

Stolarz
Woll
Why would LAK ever move off Kopitar?

Why would NSH accept Robertson for Marchessault? Many teams beat that offer in a heartbeat. His value is probably a 2nd round pick, Robertson's is probably a 4th or 5th.
 
Why would LAK ever move off Kopitar?

Why would NSH accept Robertson for Marchessault? Many teams beat that offer in a heartbeat. His value is probably a 2nd round pick, Robertson's is probably a 4th or 5th.
I'd still make the trades like Robertson + 3rd.

And LA might not trade Kopitar or they might go in a younger direction after firing their GM. I'd be making calls and trade offers regardless.
 
Robertson for Marchessault
Something for Kopitar

Marchessault hits, he shoots, he scores, Nashville might not be the right place for him, he's a Conn Smythe winner, he's a cup winner, and his contract fits perfectly for 2nd RW.

Kopitar is a cup winner and does everything you need as a top 6 center in the playoffs, and his contract expires 2026, so it gives you a shot to go McDavid hunting.

#1 and #2 targets this offseason. Do it yesterday.

Cowan Matthews Nylander
Knies Kopitar Marchessault
McMann Tavares Domi
Lorentz Laughton Jarnkrok
Holmberg

Reilly Carlo
McCabe Tanev
OEL Benoit
Myers

Stolarz
Woll

Reilly needs to go
 
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And LA might not trade Kopitar or they might go in a younger direction after firing their GM. I'd be making calls and trade offers regardless.
It's safe to assume, given his current production relative contract, their lack of C depth (Byfield probably a winger), and his storied tenure with the organization, that he is not moving.

Danault on the other hand - he could probably be had for an overpay.
 
He doesn't have to go this offseason. He's still #2 in 5on5 scoring in the playoffs the past 5 years I think.

I'd give him another year. His cap hit won't mean much when the cap is at 113m

No, we need to move on.

The core itself needs to be broken up, at least 2 of the 5 need to be changed out for the change to feel meaningful.

Marner is walking and then you're choosing 1 more of Matthews, 88, JT or Rielly.

Matthews and 88 have been re-signed by Tree, recently too.

So JT that just scored 38 goals or Rielly? Rielly was mostly bad this year. Easy choice for me.
 
No, we need to move on.

The core itself needs to be broken up, at least 2 of the 5 need to be changed out for the change to feel meaningful.

Marner is walking and then you're choosing 1 more of Matthews, 88, JT or Rielly.

Matthews and 88 have been re-signed by Tree, recently too.

So JT that just scored 38 goals or Rielly? Rielly was mostly bad this year. Easy choice for me.

3 top 6 forward additions is enough for me.

Our problem is scoring 1 goal in game 7s, so thats my target. Adding more game breakers.
 
So it seems Tavares is back 100%. Couple of things now. Is he brought back to be the 2nd line C, or 2nd line LW or do we pick up one more center and Tavares is now the 3rd line center? Obviously all these questions will be answered once free agency begins and we see who we target or trade for
 
3 top 6 forward additions is enough for me.

Our problem is scoring 1 goal in game 7s, so thats my target. Adding more game breakers.

I think we need more legitimate offensive options.

Knies-Matthews-88
Marchment-Karlsson-Granlund
Domi-JT-Cowan
Laughton-Lizotte-Brown

Sign Granlund and Brown
McMann for Marchment? Dallas is going to be short on cap space but they save around 3M in this trade
Marner sign and trade + a pick (????) to Vegas for William Karlsson
Morgan Rielly to Pittsburgh for Lizotte


2 UFAs are easy
the DAL/TOR fit is easy to see

Dreger mentioned a sign/trade/8th year might be important to Marner and Vegas would need to lose salary, Marner alone for Karlsson feels like not enough so Toronto needs to add something?

Morgan Rielly is tough because if he digs in on the NMC, your only option is a buy out but maybe Dubas would be able to convince him to come, Pittsburgh's LD situation is bad.

I feel like that group is really capable of providing some goals, Laughton likely does better on wing offensively than centre and I love Brownie.
 
So it seems Tavares is back 100%. Couple of things now. Is he brought back to be the 2nd line C, or 2nd line LW or do we pick up one more center and Tavares is now the 3rd line center? Obviously all these questions will be answered once free agency begins and we see who we target or trade for

If he's still your 2nd line center, I think you're in a good spot. If you can elevate your team and he switches to LW, I think that's also fine but it won't be the penultimate move to make everything explode in unlocking the true potential of the team.
 
It's safe to assume, given his current production relative contract, their lack of C depth (Byfield probably a winger), and his storied tenure with the organization, that he is not moving.

Danault on the other hand - he could probably be had for an overpay.
I keep seeing Byfield come up in fantasy trades for Matthews as a 1C replacement, but, like you said, I've seen no evidence that he's going to be a long-term C!

I've been reading articles that LA may be interested in Marner. I wonder if a sign+trade could get us Danault from LA? They may need to get rid of his 5.5 cap hit to fit in Marner. Given that Danault is one of the most defensively elite 2C/3Cs in the league, I would figure we would have to add on to the sign+trade, but I'd do it in a heartbeat. Total shutdown beast.
 
I keep seeing Byfield come up in fantasy trades for Matthews as a 1C replacement, but, like you said, I've seen no evidence that he's going to be a long-term C!

I've been reading articles that LA may be interested in Marner. I wonder if a sign+trade could get us Danault from LA? They may need to get rid of his 5.5 cap hit to fit in Marner. Given that Danault is one of the most defensively elite 2C/3Cs in the league, I would figure we would have to add on to the sign+trade, but I'd do it in a heartbeat. Total shutdown beast.
I would think if they're bringing in Marner they'd be more likely to dump Moore.

I was the one who previously proposed acquiring Karlsson in a Marner deal but that's because VGK is so deep at C it would make sense for them. Given LAK's depth at C, and the all-in nature of a Marner move, I doubt they'd be willing to create a huge hole to bring in a win-now piece.
 
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My off season wishes:
Marner, Tavares, Lorentz leave via free agency
Kampf Jarnkrok Reilly Robertson are traded

Sign: P. Kane, Granlund, Marchand, Fabbro, Mangiapane, Mantha, Tanev and Jeannot

Knies Matthews Kane
Mantha Granlund Nylander
Marchand Laughton Mangiapane
Jeannot Quillan/Haymes Tanev
McMann, Holmberg

McCabe Tanev
OEL Carlo
Benoit Fabbro
Myers

Stolarz
Woll

I think that's a much better playoff team
 
trying to recoup something for Marner's rights or sign and trade, I'm thinking we look for a place he would sign that has a big ticket player they would like to move.

Kreider immediately comes to mind, and NYR is a hotbed that Marner may be willing to accept

I could see Vegas as interested, but, not sure who they would consider moving to fit him in. Karlsson perhaps, or even Pietro if they think his contract may be too long ...they are savage enough to dump him
 
If he's still your 2nd line center, I think you're in a good spot. If you can elevate your team and he switches to LW, I think that's also fine but it won't be the penultimate move to make everything explode in unlocking the true potential of the team.
You're in a way better spot if he's able to play 3C and can find someone for 2C. Adds a lot more depth to the 3rd line if you can play Tavares there.

Hard to fill the spot though with someone thats a 2nd line C.
 

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