Roster Building/Team Building/Future Trade/Drafting thread.

[Menzinger]

Marchand is at that age where im pretty sure he wants to finish his career in Florida and in a warm climate. He asked to be traded to Florida for a reason.

He'd be nice in the top 6 though

I won't be surprised if that happens.

But also depends if they're willing to pay. I can easily see him wanting about 12 mil spread over 2 years of term. Will the Panthers have the space for a 6 mil aav?

I almost feel he'd be intrigued to sign here for the absurdity of it all given his personality

 

[Kiwi]

I won't be surprised if that happens.

But also depends if they're willing to pay. I can easily see him wanting about 12 mil spread over 2 years of term. Will the Panthers have the space for a 6 mil aav?

I almost feel he'd be intrigued to sign here for the absurdity of it all given his personality

To old and his career and points totals are starting to fall off

Dallas look like there going to be in tough cap wise, what about taking Marchment off there hands?

29, 4.5M cap hit, big bodied LW, probably get you 45-55 points, only a year or two left on his deal, 2nd or 3rd line

Might be a good buy low opportunity

 

[MarMarSab3]

To old and his career and points totals are starting to fall off

Dallas look like there going to be in tough cap wise, what about taking Marchment off there hands?

29, 4.5M cap hit, big bodied LW, probably get you 45-55 points, only a year or two left on his deal, 2nd or 3rd line

Might be a good buy low opportunity

Can we trade Reilly for him lol

 

[Menzinger]

To old and his career and points totals are starting to fall off

Dallas look like there going to be in tough cap wise, what about taking Marchment off there hands?

29, 4.5M cap hit, big bodied LW, probably get you 45-55 points, only a year or two left on his deal, 2nd or 3rd line

Might be a good buy low opportunity

Marchment strikes me as a guy Tre would have interest in. Has a bit more of a scoring touch than a guy like McMann too

 

[sxvnert]

Marchment strikes me as a guy Tre would have interest in. Has a bit more of a scoring touch than a guy like McMann too

Leafs have a slightly used Rielly if they're interested.

 

[ItsFineImFine]

I think they'd be better off trying to trade Matthews for a top pairing dman and re-signing Marner than keeping Matthews and letting Marner walk.

Matthews is not dangerous at all, Marner can at least make offensive plays.

 

[colchar]

1) Sign Knies to either $7.5M x 8 or $5M x 2. Assume it's the latter ($25M left)
2) RFAs: Re-sign Robertson to a $1.1M x 2, Holmberg to $1M x 1 ($22.9M left)
3) Own UFAs: Re-sign Lorentz to $1M ($21.8M left), and let Marner, Tavares, and Pacioretty hit the open market ($21.9M left)

Knies Matthews __________
McMann _______ Nylander
Jarnkrok Domi Robertson
Holmberg Laughton Lorentz
Extras: Kampf

McCabe Tanev
Rielly Carlo
Benoit/OEL/Myers

Woll
Stolarz

- Throw Quillan, Cowan into the mix as the 13th forward (or causes one of the above to sub out from the starting roster). But neither of whom would occupy a blank. Ideally it'd be Quillan unless Cowan cracks the Top 9.
- Evaluate Niemala or Kokkonen for depth as 6th defenceman

- Assume that a max of 2 out of 4 would make the roster, which gets you to 21 + 2 blanks.

4) UFA Signings
- Bring back Tavares on $5M x 3 or $8.5M x 1. I'd prefer the latter, but I assume he'll take the former. If Tavares signs elsewhere, I'd offer $4.0M x 3 or $6.0M X 1 to Matt Duchene.
- Sign Patrick Kane to $5M x 1
- Sign Vladislav Gavrikov to $6.5M X 6 ($2M left)

2025-2026 Lineup
Knies Matthews Kane
McMann Tavares/Duchene Nylander
Cowan Domi Robertson
Holmberg Laughton Jarnkrok

Extra: Kampf (rotated in, which works with $2M left in capspace)

McCabe Gavrikov
Rielly Carlo
OEL Tanev

Extras: Benoit, Myers

Stolarz
Woll

I think with the lineup, that's at minimum a wildcard or 3rd in division team next season. Competitive enough to do some damage next season with a bit of upside due to an improved defensive corps, growth from Knies, Cowan, and Woll. More importantly, it preserves cap space for next summer. Currently, there's $43M of 2026-2027 cap space. The above gets you to about $28M available to spend when someone like McDavid could somehow become available lol. If not McDavid, it's still a stronger UFA class to spend your money on if you do intend to stay competitive with Matthew and Nylander in their primes.

At least one or two of Panarin, Eichel, Kaprizov, Makar, Connor, and Kempe will likely hit UFA along with a number of secondary role players to round out the team.

Not sure about keeping Robertson. He is kind of a tweener on the Leafs so I think he'd be better off elsewhere and they can easily sign someone better to replace him.

 

[trellaine201]

Do any of our top 6 players NOT have NMC or NTC? Besides the obvious FA Marner.

 

[colchar]

I agree with everyone saying bring Patches back. As I've said in other threads here, he wasn't signed for Tuesday night games in Columbus in February, he was signed for the playoffs - and he has earned every cent of his salary.

 

[trellaine201]

Wow all the D is signed long term. Nobdoy is taking on those contracts. Gonna be tough years ahead. And the majority over 30 years old.

 

[weems]

Tavares has looked very ineffective for most of this series.

If he wants to sign some bargain contract with us sure but doubt that's going to happen and I'd just not resign him and move on.

 

[Apex Predator]

I think there’s a lot of mental demons affecting Matthew’s Marner Tavares nylander and Rielly. They have been here for all 10 years.

I think you consider Marner and Tavares walking and looking at moving the other 3. Trading the other 3 doesn’t mean rebuild but a whole retool. You still can get roster players that can play. Doesn’t mean trade them for picks and prospects.

 

[trellaine201]

yep they will end up shuffling the deck and see from there. Problem is NTC for most

 

[Tony Romo]

I need Morgan gone. I get he asks a NTC, but buddy like we just gotta keep asking him. This is ridiculous.

 

[sxvnert]

At least money hungry mitch wont be signing here no matter how much they pay him.

Last 20 minutes of the worst core in sports history. THANK GOD!

 

[MarMarSab3]

Marner walk
Tavares Walk
Reilly to Vancouver for Garland
Holmberg, Kampf, Jarnkrok anywhere for anything

 

[trellaine201]

I hear my local No Frills is looking for shelf stockers

 

[Tony Romo]

I’d keep domi. He’s stupid at times, but he cares.

 

[Americanadian]

I’d keep domi. He’s stupid at times, but he cares.

Likely impossible to dump him. He's probably here in September.

 

[NVious]

What I'd personally do:

Strip the C and force Matthews out, get what you can for him, we need players though, can be players and picks but we can't tank for the next 2 years so we need to at least be in the 6-10 range. I also don't want to see a loser like him break Sundin's goal record, so there's that too.

Go after Bennet, if he is not available, resign Tavares with the sole intent of moving him at the trade deadline, this may mean a 1 year deal we overpay for, but we need to get some sort of assets from him

Marner's gone

At the TDL, move one of Tanev/OEL and then move the other one next trade deadline to get what we can

I'd see what we can get for Nylander too, not necessarily trade him for sure, but if you feel you can get good value do it, he is as flawed as the rest of the core

Force Rielly out, enough is enough with him, if he refuses he can sit in the stands it's that simple (which is what I said should've been done with Tavares/Marner last year)

Oh and if somebody really wants Woll, he can be had too, personally I've seen enough from him. Bandaid and honestly Reimer 2.0, good game bad game yada yada yada. Not necessarily get rid of him for anything, but if somebody is horny and will offer you a decent player. I'm not a fan of him at all and he just gave up the 5th goal, truly pathetic.

The overall idea is to retool and build around Knies, I'd only stick Nylander/Matthews if the offers are sad like a first and a B prospect, but at the minimum Matthews gets stripped. It's time to totally restart Ovechkin always performed in the playoffs unlike Matthews, Yzerman only won because the team basically added Cale Makar (Lidstrom) and Matthw Tkachuk (Shanahan), this team is not doing that any time soon so try something completely different around Knies

 

[hullsy47]

Maybe Matthews would waive for LA?

Byfield and one of Kempe or Fiala? We can throw in Marner's rights?

They should ask anyone who has a NMC if theyd waive
This smells of a rebuild

 

[Tony Romo]

They should ask anyone who has a NMC if theyd waive
This smells of a rebuild

With what picks?

 

[BertCorbeau]

I’m happier with Matthews contract each day. He’s going to age like a banana.

Just blow it up.

 

[TMLAM34]

We can’t rebuild (we don’t have our 1st for the next couple years) and we definitely wouldn’t regardless.

Time to retool however…

 

[HomelessPepper]

Need to turn over at least half this roster...

Marner needs to go.
Tavares needs to go.

I'd entertain offers for Matthews, but deal would need to make sense.

I'd entertain offers for Woll, but deal would need to make sense.

Bye bye Domi, Holmberg, Jarnkrok, Robertson, Patches, and probably more I'm not even thinking of due to the disappointment.

Need to take a step back so that we can take a step forward.

f*** off shanabitch.