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If this team once again fails to proceed very far in the playoffs, what would you want them to do?

  • Do nothing, run it back

    Votes: 9 8.3%

  • Make changes to the offense, top 6 forward, better bottom six, but keep the core

    Votes: 9 8.3%

  • Make changes to the offense, including moving core players

    Votes: 42 38.9%

  • Make changes to the defense

    Votes: 5 4.6%

  • Do a retool, including moving core players

    Votes: 54 50.0%

  • Ban the guy who keeps making jinx prediction posts.

    Votes: 15 13.9%
  • Total voters
    108
Assuming the Leafs don't resign any of their unrestricted free agents this summer (see link below) they will have $30,398,000 to spend. Some of that money will go to RFAs like Knies and Hildeby, but they will still have a big chunk to spend on available UFAs.

So based on that, what do you think they need and who would you sign of the available free agents?

I don't think Woll is quite ready yet so I would like to see them sign a goalie, and obviously there are other holes to fill.


Leafs free agents:



Available Centers:



Available Left Wingers:



Available Right Wingers:



Available Defencemen:



Available Goalies:

 
SprDaVE said:
They'll target an upper level free agent in the likes of Ehlers, Granlund and Bennett, but yeah unlikely they go hard like that. It's going to take some creative bargaining not to kill the cap with term for average/meh players. Treliving has been good at it so far, but his Calgary days showed some bad times.

Leafs can get creative on the trade front. The one that can be solid is the Robertson trade. He has value. It's finding the right fit.
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Obviously so early, but the two paths forward I see look like stacking the top line (MK-AM-WN) or keeping AM and WN separated.
If separated, I’d look into Pius Suter to pair with Willy, but I think Nick Ehlers would make a good running mate.
If stacked, then a goal scorer like Boeser (buddy with AM) would be a smart second line add. Assuming JT comes back.
I think you make a good point about NickRob. Guy was close to .5ppg last year, and hasn’t really been deployed with talent to maximize his skills.
Heading into the off-season, Max *looks* like an important guy (1rw? 2LW?3c/lw) until other players are added. And there are reports the teams not too fussed.
Could go so many ways….hard to speculate….and hard to imagine sweeping forward changes given the teams actually made small incremental improvements this year (winning the division and first round).
 
As far as players likely to make the roster I'd re-sign Lorentz, possibly Pacioretty but he's looking pretty done so more like a PTO at camp.

Assuming the season is over tonight or Sunday, among UFA's I'd be skeptical of any desirable player that wants to sign here.

Otherwise, Granlund would be ideal to replace Tavares at 2C.
On Matthews' right side, there is slim pickings out there and will be even worse when some of those available now re-sign. May have to go the trade route.
The blueline, top 6 at least, is pretty set for another season at least.
 
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Americanadian said:
I can't shake the feeling of Marner ending up in Vegas and signing just above the Rantanen deal on a sign and trade. His agent will have Dreger tweeting that 12.5M in a no-tax state is the highest take home money in the league. Vegas can't help themselves anytime a star becomes available.

Marner signed to 12.5Mx8 to VGK for Karlsson makes sense. That's probably the best piece the Leafs could pull in a sign and trade for a UFA and Karlsson solves a short-term need for the Leafs. VGK would need to clear cap space which is why I think they'd move off Karlsson.
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This has been my thought for a year. I thought he would have went there for Theodore last draft. Pushing the rantanen thing out of ones head.

Vegas
Tony Romo said:
best case scenario is Marner decides to go to a cash strapped team like Vegas, were we actually have to do a S&T but I'll assume that won't happen.

Vegas is in desperate need of elite wingers, especially with Stone being injured. Something like Wild Bill + another piece could work.
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Yes they would need to get rid of about 9 million in salary to sign Hague and Marner.
I would have wanted Hague and Karlson but honestly the way Benoit is playing.

Barbarshev. Eichel. Marner
Dorofev. Hertl. Stone
Howden. Roy.

And filler.

We would end up with

Knies. Matthews. Domi
Tavares. Nylander.
Laughton. Karlson.
 
aingefan said:
Obviously so early, but the two paths forward I see look like stacking the top line (MK-AM-WN) or keeping AM and WN separated.
If separated, I’d look into Pius Suter to pair with Willy, but I think Nick Ehlers would make a good running mate.
If stacked, then a goal scorer like Boeser (buddy with AM) would be a smart second line add. Assuming JT comes back.
I think you make a good point about NickRob. Guy was close to .5ppg last year, and hasn’t really been deployed with talent to maximize his skills.
Heading into the off-season, Max *looks* like an important guy (1rw? 2LW?3c/lw) until other players are added. And there are reports the teams not too fussed.
Could go so many ways….hard to speculate….and hard to imagine sweeping forward changes given the teams actually made small incremental improvements this year (winning the division and first round).
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Knies-Matthews-Ehlers
Marchand-JT-88

Or go full Florida

Knies-Matthews-Ehlers
Marchand-Bennett-88

Personally, I found that JT-88 don't have natural chemistry, they're just good players that happen to play on the same line.
 
I'd bring back Lorentz. Obviously you do whatever you can to sign Knies. After that, I'd maybe wait it out to see who you can get on a 1 year deal, even if its a bit more than something with term. Thinking Granlund, Duchene, Kane.

Would love to get Fabbro too, Benoit had his moments this playoffs, but Fabbro allowed Werenski to shine this season, and grabbing him would allow OEL to move to his natural side.

I'm also against moving draft picks to facilitate moving cap out. I think it's almost always possible to move a guy like Kampf, Domi, Jarnkrok without attaching picks. These aren't big ticket guys, who can be serviceable in circumstances. Return may be a 7th, but to give up our highest picks to get rid of them makes zero sense with the prospect pool we currently have.
 
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WTFMAN99 said:
Knies-Matthews-Ehlers
Marchand-JT-88

Or go full Florida

Knies-Matthews-Ehlers
Marchand-Bennett-88

Personally, I found that JT-88 don't have natural chemistry, they're just good players that happen to play on the same line.
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I tend to agree.
In a way 88 reminds me of the Mats days where he never really had a running mate.
I can’t quite come around on Bennett.
If it happens….great, I guess, I’ll try to support it….but I’m not sure he leaves FLA anyway.
Marchand…..just can’t see it either for some reason.
 
Knies - Matthews - Domi
Ehlers - Granlund/Tavares/Bennett - Nylander
Marchand/McMann - Laughton - Cowan
Lorentz - IDK - Tanev?

Laughton takes PK1, your 4th line C takes PK2. Marchand/Knies the wingers on the PK.
 
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Coffee said:
Marner 21 minutes, Nylander Benched LOL
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Maybe not necessarily benched really. More like Marner was doing alot of PK and of course Nylander doesn't do alot of that. Even strength time on ice Marner had about 4 minutes more and some of that was at the end of the game trying to protect the lead.
 
colchar said:
Assuming the Leafs don't resign any of their unrestricted free agents this summer (see link below) they will have $30,398,000 to spend. Some of that money will go to RFAs like Knies and Hildeby, but they will still have a big chunk to spend on available UFAs.

So based on that, what do you think they need and who would you sign of the available free agents?

I don't think Woll is quite ready yet so I would like to see them sign a goalie, and obviously there are other holes to fill.


Leafs free agents:



Available Centers:



Available Left Wingers:



Available Right Wingers:



Available Defencemen:



Available Goalies:

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Stolarz is signed for next year.
 
Menzinger said:
If Marchand walks, Tre might as well offer him an aggressive offer on a 2-3 year deal.

Let's at least get some entertaining players if they're going to struggle
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Marchand is at that age where im pretty sure he wants to finish his career in Florida and in a warm climate. He asked to be traded to Florida for a reason.

He'd be nice in the top 6 though
 
Split Marner's money into Brock Boeser and Sam Bennett maybe?

Knies - Mathews - Boeser
Bennett - Tavares - Nylander
Mcmann - Domi - Cowan
Lorentz - Laughton - Jeannot
Holmberg
 
OVO16 said:
Split Marner's money into Brock Boeser and Sam Bennett maybe?

Knies - Mathews - Boeser
Bennett - Tavares - Nylander
Mcmann - Domi - Cowan
Lorentz - Laughton - Jeannot
Holmberg
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I think both those players combined will make more than Marner

I'd put Marner around 13M and I could see those other two getting 8M each

I wonder if Marner walks if you would be better off going Dvorak plus Ehlers, fill a top 6 hole and 3C in one go or Bennett plus Grandlund, Marchand plus Bennett

Something like that
 
Rare Jewel said:
That was supposed to be Laughton.

Suter is the guy I'd go for as FA, though.
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Well it isn’t Laughton. He can be an elite #4.

Suter isn’t what wins at playoff time and he isn’t what Bérubé would want.

If Tavares signs for 5, he’s an easy resign. After that, you probably have to get creative.

Perhaps a bridge solution like Pageau from NYI. He’s got just 1 year left, and is a 40 point guy who’s elite in a matchup shut down role.
 
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