Robertson is not perfect and a smaller frame but he engages. I hope he sticks around.
If the Leafs can't get over the hump this year I imagine the GM will make changes to build the team more to his philosophy.
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If the Leafs can't get over the hump this year I imagine the GM will make changes to build the team more to his philosophy.
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If Marner walks, capspace in the summer of 2026 becomes the big priority. Spend the off-season seeing who you can coax into signing 1.year 'show me' deals like Tre did during his first off-season
Yep. I would throw money at Kane. See if he would do 1 year in the Marner spot.
If Vegas goes out they will want changes.
I could see them going after Marner generally as they always want the big fish.
Tax free market. I just don’t see how even they do it.
Even at a tax free 12
They would have to get rid of at least karlson and hague. Probably more.
Unless they tried to get rid of a Petro/stone
I could see them doing that too.
would Eichel and Marner fit together? 2 pass first players?
I could see them going after Marner generally as they always want the big fish.
Tax free market. I just don’t see how even they do it.
Even at a tax free 12
They would have to get rid of at least karlson and hague. Probably more.
Unless they tried to get rid of a Petro/stone
I could see them doing that too.
would Eichel and Marner fit together? 2 pass first players?
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Vegas is cutthroat and i like that, they are all business.
I cant help but wonder what would have happened if Colorado approached Toronto for Marner instead of Carolina... would Marner have agreed to go to Colorodo to play with McKinnon/Makar (and resign there) vs Carolina, which I dont blame him for not wanting to go. The team playstyle may fit, but, no pure 'sniper' to feed, and they may regress soon, as their D core is getting old.
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When you're already earning like 10-12M...is an extra 1-2M a year worth leaving behind both sets of grandparents and up rooting a baby before they're even 1 year old?
Granted, a lot of players *have* to do this because they gotta go where work takes them but Marner can kind of choose what he wants to do...
Two different coaches have come to the same conclusion that they don't trust Robertson game in game out. He's a pretty dumb player but yes he can absolutely score. There's no hiding him in a top 6 role though, the bad outweighs the good.
If Colorado weren't willing to pay Rantanen they definitely weren't going to pay Marner, is how I see it.
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Yeah they defended their decision at their end of season presser that they couldn't pay that much for a few players. Basically hinting at having a more balanced approach to their roster.
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You let Marner walk, sign JT fro less than the 7 Million reported or let him walk also. Sign Knies and hopefully bring in some pieces. Team isn't winning with this core anyway. We are doomed for the next few years in my opinion and wouldn't be surprised if we miss the playoffs sooner than later. All started when Dubas overpaid this soft bunch. The writing has been on the wall for years.
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Yeah I don't see the Leafs being vulnerable unless they were crazy enough to commit money to Marner and Tavares before signing Knies.
I still say we should heavily pursue Marchand this offseason. Would be a good add for a 2nd-3rd line winger
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I think this would be the last place he'd play.
Most likely destinations IMO, back to Boston, Pittsburgh or Colorado.
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I think he'd play here but it's unlikely.
Boston seems to have turned the page, he wanted term and was willing to go down in AAV but Boston wouldn't give him anything near what he wanted for $$ or term.
Colorado I could potentially see but I guess it depends on if Landeskog is back full time or if this was a last hurrah.
Pittsburgh....I see him being willing to play with Crosby but I also don't know if he'd go somewhere that isn't going to be able to offer a competitive situation.
What if Florida traded Luostarainen? He could stay there.
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I agree.
They are honest about their lack of loyalty and they don't expect any in return.
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I'd echo the sentiment that Colorado didn't trade away Rantanen just to spend even more money on a free agency winger like Marner.
The Pens will make an offer. I can see teams like the Sharks, Ducks, and Blue Jackets also offering cash to try and drag their teams out of the basement. Maybe Chicago but they'd be at risk of radically disrupting their internal cap structure with a high priced UFA.
True. But it's worth pointing out too, is the 5 year length also applies, meaning if a team goes beyond that the penalty start increases. A team would have to offer Knies 9.36x5 which walks him straight to ufa. It really takes the threat out of it imo
The Pens will make an offer. I can see teams like the Sharks, Ducks, and Blue Jackets also offering cash to try and drag their teams out of the basement. Maybe Chicago but they'd be at risk of radically disrupting their internal cap structure with a high priced UFA.
True. But it's worth pointing out too, is the 5 year length also applies, meaning if a team goes beyond that the penalty start increases. A team would have to offer Knies 9.36x5 which walks him straight to ufa. It really takes the threat out of it imo
If we have money we need a 3rd line center, you can build a functional bottom 6 with a good 2-way 3rd line center, rather than the misfit toys that currently have
If Marner decided to leave, resign Knies and JT then 3rd line center and a top 6LW would be my choice with Domi sliding up to Matthew's RW
If Marner decided to leave, resign Knies and JT then 3rd line center and a top 6LW would be my choice with Domi sliding up to Matthew's RW
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I think Chicago is giving Marner as much as he wants to move if he gets to there. They got a ton of money and a bunch of blue chip prospects, they will want to add a 2-way elite level player to go with them. They have a lot to do on defense but that's how you start.
I also think teams like Utah and Seattle will be desperate to get a top UFA player like that, but Marner moving to those cities seems unlikely.
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Patrick Kane 1 year 4 million , Anthony Mantha 1 year 3.5 , Brad Marchand 1 year 4 million, B.Tanev 2 year 2 million
Knies Matthews Kane
Marchand Tavares Nylander
Cowan Laughton Mantha
Lorentz Quillan Tanev
Marner, Kampf Jarnkrok gone and leaves a few million for parts
Sneaky signing would be Kuzmenko, He's way better than the year he just had
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Given that I haven't looked at their cap structure, so keep that in mind, Ottawa seems like they could be after Mitch. They need high end talent, and the narrative around stealing their greatest rivals star might be enticing to new ownership and management.
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In theory they probably could. But does Marner really wanna do that? I'd be shocked, especially for Ottawa as they aren't exactly the richest team even with the new owner.
I think Montreal might be more likely to spend top dollar to do that. Top end org with plenty to offer and an upcoming team locked up for awhile.
It really all depends what Marner will value in terms of contract, city and team. If it's all about the top dollar amount, it's going to be tough to compete.
