Roster Building/Team Building/Future Trade/Drafting thread.

[Fogelhund]

Maybe in raw draft compensation he could fetch a 3rd? He did post 15 goals.

Maybe a 4th...or we could use our extra 5th with Robertson to get a better pick but since he's been scratched, I would say it's over.

My preference would be a player, who is younger than Robertson, but similar type upside... The team making the trade gets a more ready player... assuming they have a roster that could use Robertson, so they speed up their timeline. We get another shot with someone on a longer trajectory. Two players who could use a scenery change.

Sharks could use some scoring, being bottom in the league last year... and I could see the Leafs trying to collect all the London Knights and asking for Kasper Halttunen. I don't think he has the upside of Robertson in scoring, but he's got a big body, and time on his side. Sharks also have a lot of LD in their system, but not as many RD, so I could see them having interest in Niemela added to the deal.

 

[WTFMAN99]

My preference would be a player, who is younger than Robertson, but similar type upside... The team making the trade gets a more ready player... assuming they have a roster that could use Robertson, so they speed up their timeline. We get another shot with someone on a longer trajectory. Two players who could use a scenery change.

Sharks could use some scoring, being bottom in the league last year... and I could see the Leafs trying to collect all the London Knights and asking for Kasper Halttunen. I don't think he has the upside of Robertson in scoring, but he's got a big body, and time on his side. Sharks also have a lot of LD in their system, but not as many RD, so I could see them having interest in Niemela added to the deal.

Hmm

Korczak and Holtz for Hildeby and Robertson base? I wonder what else needs to be there.

 

[Legion34]

If Marner signed for 12ish, I wonder if we could get Knies 4x7 and Tavares 4x6. Keeps a bit of space for another top 9 upgrade. Knies stays rfa at end and can cash in big on an 8 year deal then with Tavares money freed.

Corranto just signed in a high tax Canadian market for 7 x 6.5 coming off a 24 g 47 pt season.

Knies would be above that. But not by a ton I wouldn’t think…… maybe 7.5 x 6?

 

[Legion34]

Maybe in raw draft compensation he could fetch a 3rd? He did post 15 goals.

Maybe a 4th...or we could use our extra 5th with Robertson to get a better pick but since he's been scratched, I would say it's over.

I am hoping for 3-5ths for Robbie, Jarnkrok, Kampf, holmberg, whomever we are getting rid of. Recoup draft capital for 2026. I love the Carlo deal. Laughton has been ok. But I don’t see why we got the draft guru just to trade a ton of picks

 

[Menzinger]

Nick Robertson will still be a RFA this offseason, but I doubt he's in the teams future plans. I do wonder if they will trade him for something, or just not extend an offer to him. From an asset management perspective, it would make sense to get something for him... anything really at this point. I also doubt Nick wants to come back at this point, so he'll welcome change.

There's no way he's going to sign after being scratched in the playoffs. It's better for both sides to just try and get a mid pick for him

 

[SprDaVE]

There's no way he's going to sign after being scratched in the playoffs. It's better for both sides to just try and get a mid pick for him

With a new head scout, there might be a player they can do a 1 for 1 swap for that they've liked, maybe from the Stars.

But yeah it's more likely he's given his shot somewhere else for a pick. I can even see him go unqualified, but that would be terrible asset management.

 

[sxvnert]

There's no way he's going to sign after being scratched in the playoffs. It's better for both sides to just try and get a mid pick for him

Surprised he wasn't trading to the Sharks for Luke Kunin instead of the 4th from the Blue Jackets. .

 

[horner]

Surprised he wasn't trading to the Sharks for Luke Kunin instead of the 4th from the Blue Jackets. .

A 2nd Rd pk + Robertson to move up in the NHL draft

 

[Rare Jewel]

A 2nd Rd pk + Robertson to move up in the NHL draft

Possibly, but I'm not sure that gets you out of the 2nd, and even if it did, who are you taking?

Interestingly, there's one guy who I think will drop in Carter Bear, who, if he gets past the 15th pick, I'd be trying to get up there.

 

[ashs]

Build around knies. Trade marner rielly and Matthews.

 

[SprDaVE]

Build around knies. Trade marner rielly and Matthews.

Jeez louise, it already started

 

[A1LeafNation]

I'm okay with everything but our 2nd line. We would free up like 25m to bring in closers.

Knies Matthews Nylander
______ ______ ______
Lorentz Laughton Domi
McMann Holmberg Jarnkrok

Rielly Carlo
McCabe Tanev
OEL Benoit

Stolarz
Woll

Berube

 

[4thline]

Jeez louise, it already started

Not buying into the doom and gloom, but barring a borderline Smythe worthy stretch from Marner I've gone from a hardline offer at Rantanen money to a hardline offer at Nylander money. If he won't take it by the draft we move on.

 

[WTFMAN99]

Not buying into the doom and gloom, but barring a borderline Smythe worthy stretch from Marner I've gone from a hardline offer at Rantanen money to a hardline offer at Nylander money. If he won't take it by the draft we move on.

Yeah, I said in the series thread that Matthews is good defensively but something is up there. He's still a pt/game but he seems committed to really helping the team defensively.

Knies and Marner absolutely must score goals.

If they don't get this series over the finish line, it makes me believe that you save your pennies and try to do 1 year deals with JT & 1-2 other guys (Kane) and hope you land McDavid the year following.

 

[The Shadow]

The sad thing about this series is they had a two goal lead in game 3 and Florida wasn’t playing their game. They let them back in it and here we are

 

[Skullz]

We desperately need more offensive talent from the backend, but not sure how that is an option. I still maintain that we should move off of Rielly if at all possible. He's scored some goals, but have not liked his game and he is not aging gracefully.

 

[Fogelhund]

Jeez louise, it already started

It's a bit soon to be jumping off bridges like this... but if we bomb out here, I'd be down with such moves. I'd prefer to wait until off season to really go into it though.

 

[TMLAM34]

It's a bit soon to be jumping off bridges like this... but if we bomb out here, I'd be down with such moves. I'd prefer to wait until off season to really go into it though.

100%, I think you need to explore EVERY option at that point.

The only untouchables for me would be Knies, Nylander and Stolarz.

Others I would want to keep would be Laughton, Tanev, McCabe and Carlo.

Rest of the team would have a for sale sign.

 

[Mitch nylander]

With a new head scout, there might be a player they can do a 1 for 1 swap for that they've liked, maybe from the Stars.

But yeah it's more likely he's given his shot somewhere else for a pick. I can even see him go unqualified, but that would be terrible asset management.

A couple 1 for 1s might make sense around the league.

• Anaheim has a log jam on defence, we do too, but it's not like Philippe Myers is that great. From Anaheim I could see Drew Helleson being available, given that Luneau can't get an opportunity & Ian Moore is pretty much ready. He's a big, competitive defensive RD, skates well for his size.
• Stars - Maybe Maverick Bourque. Both guys are 23, Bourque, hasn't cracked the Stars for the playoffs, provides a bit more defensive value than Robertson. Robertson gets to play with his brother. We'd likely need to add here, but could be wrong.
• Wild - The wild have no scoring in their bottom 6 and could desperately use a guy with a shot. Sure he's not consistent but worth a shot. Would likely need to be a prospect maybe Ryder Ritchie?
• Philadelphia - Again, while they have talent coming up, Robertson is the exact type of guy I see them chancing. Maybe Jacob Pelletier, who honestly hasn't been the greatest of fit there.

 

[Mitch nylander]

I'm okay with everything but our 2nd line. We would free up like 25m to bring in closers.

Knies Matthews Nylander
______ ______ ______
Lorentz Laughton Domi
McMann Holmberg Jarnkrok

Rielly Carlo
McCabe Tanev
OEL Benoit

Stolarz
Woll

Berube

I'd still bring back JT, but I'd find 2 guys for the price of Marner.

Perhaps Bennett + Boeser

 

[Stephen]

I'd still bring back JT, but I'd find 2 guys for the price of Marner.

Perhaps Bennett + Boeser

It’s a dilemma.

With Marner you get into the playoffs in comfort and then it dries out. Without Marner you have a harder time getting there but you don’t have that mental fragility at the top of the pecking order.

 

[WTFMAN99]

It’s a dilemma.

With Marner you get into the playoffs in comfort and then it dries out. Without Marner you have a harder time getting there but you don’t have that mental fragility at the top of the pecking order.

Tavares higher AAV for 1 year and Patrick Kane and something else?

Buy 1 year and hope McDavid is there, go for him.

 

[sxvnert]

It’s a dilemma.

With Marner you get into the playoffs in comfort and then it dries out. Without Marner you have a harder time getting there but you don’t have that mental fragility at the top of the pecking order.

Giving Marner a contract at any price is sending a message to the other players and fan base that playoff success doesn't mean a damn thing.
Letting him walk for free is the price leafs management pays for kicking the can down the road despite all the evidence to the contrary.

 

[mydnyte]

Maybe in raw draft compensation he could fetch a 3rd? He did post 15 goals.

Maybe a 4th...or we could use our extra 5th with Robertson to get a better pick but since he's been scratched, I would say it's over.

the irony is that 15 goals is what you would hope to get from a mid to late 1`st round pick.
severe underrating of Robertson's goal scoring ability, and he did it with limited time, no PP time on the 3rd line. give him a regular top 6 spot and he's an easy 20+ goal scorer

 

[WTFMAN99]

the irony is that 15 goals is what you would hope to get from a mid to late 1`st round pick.
severe underrating of Robertson's goal scoring ability, and he did it with limited time, no PP time on the 3rd line. give him a regular top 6 spot and he's an easy 20+ goal scorer

He did get PP2 time this year but not last year.