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If this team once again fails to proceed very far in the playoffs, what would you want them to do?

  • Do nothing, run it back

    Votes: 1 4.0%
  • Make changes to the offense, top 6 forward, better bottom six, but keep the core

    Votes: 3 12.0%
  • Make changes to the offense, including moving core players

    Votes: 9 36.0%
  • Make changes to the defense

    Votes: 1 4.0%
  • Do a retool, including moving core players

    Votes: 13 52.0%
  • Ban the guy who keeps making jinx prediction posts.

    Votes: 4 16.0%

  • Total voters
    25
I’d be fine with 2.75 that’s almost the same we’re paying jarnkrok and Hes more built for playoff hoccey than jarnkrok and he’d definitely produce more here than there you see who he plays with ? Gallagher and Dvorak not cutting it

Outside of one year, his career year otherwise is 32 points. All while being terrible defensively.

The ghost of Anderson past is dead. He's not the guy who put up 27 goals, and 47 points one year.

You know who else did almost exactly that once... while playing "playoff" hockey. David Clarkson... 30 goal, 46 point peak. Never to be useful again...

This is like pining do obtain David Clarkson again.... it's just ungood.
 
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Outside of one year, his career year otherwise is 32 points. All while being terrible defensively.

The ghost of Anderson past is dead. He's not the guy who put up 27 goals, and 47 points one year.

You know who else did almost exactly that once... while playing "playoff" hockey. David Clarkson... 30 goal, 46 point peak. Never to be useful again...

This is like pining do obtain David Clarkson again.... it's just ungood.
Definitely don’t want to be anywhere near clarkson
 
Bennett would be a nice pickup, but I highly doubt he makes it to Free Agency. I'm also not sure Evander Kane is much of an answer for anything at this point... I guess we'll see what he's got if he comes back in the playoffs. Anderson retained, is still not worth it.
Would be damn fun lineup to watch for a year or two.

Of course none of it would happen just fun daydreaming.
 
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Clearing out Domi’s money and Kampf’s money would make for a pretty comfortable cap position. Even just Domi’s.

And if Mitch is unreasonable, I’m happy enough taking a crack at Brock Boeser and spreading the rest of the money around.

I suppose there’s always an option to trade Mitch to open up his options and get him an 8th year. You wouldn’t have to match the salary, but could land a decent piece.
 
Kampf is 99% gone. I'd be completely shocked if he stays around. Reaves is 100% gone to me as well. Domi I'd put at 50/50, but with his low/negative value and his role on the team I think I could see one more season to redeem himself. Jarnkrok is also 50/50 depending on a few things.

Dorwart is a center per the article, but who knows at the pro level where he falls.

Treliving has signed/drafted plenty of small players. Not sure there are any correlations that he only likes big players.

I'd agree with this is a strong finish to the season, and playoffs may be enough to keep Domi around.

Kampf hmwas given some of the lowest atoi of his career before the healthy scratch started, he's absolutely gone. Reaves will stay a paper scratch in the Marinara as a callup option if not moved.

Jarnkrok definitely the most up in the air when trying to get a read on him. Tre has an interesting history with him, having traded for him in Calgary. But if the team needs cap, SOME guys will need to go
 
I think how Knies gets could affect the offseason. The way he has played this year he could get more than 6 million a season. He’s a unique player and a player the leafs need to keep. I wonder what Knies is looking for. I feel if it was for anything under 6 at this point he would be signed.
 
I think how Knies gets could affect the offseason. The way he has played this year he could get more than 6 million a season. He’s a unique player and a player the leafs need to keep. I wonder what Knies is looking for. I feel if it was for anything under 6 at this point he would be signed.

I saw a report earlier in the year that both the player and organization are looking at a bridge contract. But I wouldn’t mind using Byfields deal as a template and signing him to that.
 
I saw a report earlier in the year that both the player and organization are looking at a bridge contract. But I wouldn’t mind using Byfields deal as a template and signing him to that.
3 year bridge makes a lot sense for both player and team

Team- keeps cap hit down for remainder of currently defined window, leaves him under team control to pursue based on state of team in three years, can either use a big piece to start a rebuild or re-sign for a retool/ continuation

Player- sets up for massive 3rd contract, doesn't tie him into a potential rebuild, one year to ufa and arb eligible gives him as much influence as he can hope for during RFA years
 
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Good call on Jeannot. Probably someone the Leafs would love to bring to replace Reaves' role.

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Tanner Jeannot
Cal Foote
2023 3rd round pick
2023 4th round pick
2023 5th round pick
2024 2nd round pick
2025 1st round pick

This still kills me……😂
 
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Kampf is 99% gone. I'd be completely shocked if he stays around. Reaves is 100% gone to me as well. Domi I'd put at 50/50, but with his low/negative value and his role on the team I think I could see one more season to redeem himself. Jarnkrok is also 50/50 depending on a few things.

Dorwart is a center per the article, but who knows at the pro level where he falls.

Treliving has signed/drafted plenty of small players. Not sure there are any correlations that he only likes big players.

I think they hold onto Domi. I think fans (not really you, as you've been pretty patient with him) are much more critical of him than management. He's had a bad year but the whole bottom 6 has been dismal. The only bottom 6 guy with more points than Domi is McMann with 31, and I'd argue he belongs on the second line. Domi is sitting at 28 and behind him is Laughton at 27 who has all of those points from Philly.

After that? Robertson at 19. The whole bottom 6 has been dreadful this year. If Domi ends the year strong he probably ends up with ~35 points. Personally I think good value on his contract is a 40 point player who slides up and down the lineup when needed.

Especially with a rising cap, 30-40 point players are going to get paid more and more. Obviously if they have to move him to fit some people in they will, but I don't think there's really any urgency.

I agree with you that one of Kampf and Jarnkrok will get moved. I'm not sure what their plan is with Robertson. I suppose his bad year is a good thing from a contract standpoint but it'll depend on how sour the relationship still is.
 
I think they hold onto Domi. I think fans (not really you, as you've been pretty patient with him) are much more critical of him than management. He's had a bad year but the whole bottom 6 has been dismal. The only bottom 6 guy with more points than Domi is McMann with 31, and I'd argue he belongs on the second line. Domi is sitting at 28 and behind him is Laughton at 27 who has all of those points from Philly.

After that? Robertson at 19. The whole bottom 6 has been dreadful this year. If Domi ends the year strong he probably ends up with ~35 points. Personally I think good value on his contract is a 40 point player who slides up and down the lineup when needed.

Especially with a rising cap, 30-40 point players are going to get paid more and more. Obviously if they have to move him to fit some people in they will, but I don't think there's really any urgency.

I agree with you that one of Kampf and Jarnkrok will get moved. I'm not sure what their plan is with Robertson. I suppose his bad year is a good thing from a contract standpoint but it'll depend on how sour the relationship still is.

I would agree with Domi and the depth scoring. Just look at Dewar who couldn't do anything with the Leafs, 1 goal in 50 or so games with the Leafs, and now already has 3 goals in 6 games with the Pens. A lot of that is luck.

I don't think they'll have much of a choice to move both Kampf and Jarnkrok. They've essentially been passed in the depth charts and while they aren't cap anchors, that's about 4.5M of money they will need for extensions and perhaps a player they'd prefer over both. You can probably put a near league minimum cap hit player in place of Kampf with little difference and Jarnkrok is just a very average hard working mid-line player.

As for Robertson, I think the relationship is in a weird spot. I think he'll get moved, but maybe a big post season and things change. Dallas is a team that will need cheap capable players and his brother being there might be very appealing for Dallas. I'm not sure for who or what, but that's my early prediction I see for Nick.
 
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Jeannot is a guy Treliving is going to be all over. He's your modern-day "Tough Guy" who can still play, be intimidating, and is only 27 yrs old. Practically, this is what Treliving wanted Reaves to be, but he was washed.

The kings love him though and probably need his toughness more than us. I can see them re-signing him

I'd love to dump Reaves and Kampf next year and bring in Jeannot for the bottom 6. That way we won't have to worry about the bottom 6 "toughness" every year
 
Every time with the media

No discounts here

No Leaf player has ever signed an offer sheet in the cap era.

Every time it happens the league reacts like it's a taboo and retaliation happens and no GM wants to pick a fight with the leagues wealthiest team.

Its absurd this kind of talk is treated even remotely serious by the media
 
No Leaf player has ever signed an offer sheet in the cap era.

Every time it happens the league reacts like it's a taboo and retaliation happens and no GM wants to pick a fight with the leagues wealthiest team.

Its absurd this kind of talk is treated even remotely serious by the media
The salary cap creates a very competitive landscape. Kinda like an arms race, GMs get more and more aggressive, hedging bets like the Kotchetkov contract, LTIRing until playoffs, Tampa trading a draft class for Jeannot.

I suspect it's only a matter of time until the offer sheet wars begin. It may have already started, things will only escalate.
 

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