Roster Building/Team Building/Future Trade/Drafting thread.

[arso40]

He scored 48 goals in the KHL, WHAT!?

There's no way this dude is worse then Holmberg

I always liked leivo big not afraid to mix it up and had a great shot

 

[1specter]

He scored 48 goals in the KHL, WHAT!?

There's no way this dude is worse then Holmberg

He's also the #1 scorer overall at 78 pts. Notable names he's outscoring in the top 10 include Gusev, Kravtsov (former Rags 1st rounder), and former Leaf Barabanov.

Always felt like Babs really did Leivo dirty. Still remember when he had a good game and scored a goal only to be scratched the following game. Babs was a douche.

 

[SprDaVE]

He's also the #1 scorer overall at 78 pts. Notable names he's outscoring in the top 10 include Gusev, Kravtsov (former Rags 1st rounder), and former Leaf Barabanov.

Always felt like Babs really did Leivo dirty. Still remember when he had a good game and scored a goal only to be scratched the following game. Babs was a douche.

I agree. It was weird. He was playing well and kept getting benched.

With that said, I don't think his future would have been much different because he was having the same issues on other teams. He was also injured a lot.

I don't think anyone would want to play in the KHL over the NHL but if he's making a lot, not sure why he'd risk that to be on a PTO/AHL.

 

[The Shadow]

Tre needs to keep in touch with Toews. There is more in the tank there. He’s only 36.

 

[LeafSteel]

I agree. It was weird. He was playing well and kept getting benched.

With that said, I don't think his future would have been much different because he was having the same issues on other teams. He was also injured a lot.

I don't think anyone would want to play in the KHL over the NHL but if he's making a lot, not sure why he'd risk that to be on a PTO/AHL.

Being from Inisfil, Ont, got to think being back home vs in Russia would have appeal, as well as another chance to play in the NHL.

Agreed on all accounts that Leivo’s treatment by Babcock was perplexing. The guy played physical and could score and worked hard but could never stick.

I think Leivo on the 4th line is a smart and good fit, to be honest.

Considering where we are with picks and prospects, this could be an outside the box low risk/decent reward move at a very redcap hit.
I would really like see it.

 

[LeafSteel]

Just curious…


Which Maple Leaf player with the last name McCabe do you prefer more?

Jake or Bryan ?

The Bryan of 20 years ago or the Jake of 20 years later ( so right now) ?

Interesting question.

Bryan McCabe with his faux hawk, his huge ass can opener, and spinnaroonie with Chara was definitely engaging.

Kaberle/Mccabe was far and away our best defensive pairing for a very long time, but McCabe/Tanev are not only easily our best defensive pairing, they are one of the top ones in the league.

Both are good but I would use them in very different situations, with McCabe/Tanev drawing the harder defensive assignments and to lock things down.

 

[WTFMAN99]

I'd look at bringing back Lorentz and Steeves. Laughton will likely be back as well. I also don't think Domi will be gone, but we'll see. I'd also expect Holmberg back, the coach likes him.

I would target Mason Appleton, Eric Robinson, Luke Kunin, Connor Brown (im biased), B. Tanev, Jeannot, Brazeau, Bjugstad and Dvorak. In our price range. Obviously cap prices will vary player to player but I think picking up a couple of these players would be solid work depending on the cap situation and other trades/moves. There are obviously always a few min league players that could work to fill depth, similar to the Lorentz pick up.

Could be KHL/Europe related. I'd take a shot at Shabanov. He's small but very skilled and and a great skater. He's apparently signing with an NHL team in the next few weeks. He plays on the same team as ex-Leafs prospect SDA.

From the NCAA, Karsen Dorwart is probably the top prize.

Free agents for NHL teams 2025: Top college, CHL and European players

Ranking this year's players to watch coming out of the CHL, NCAA and major European leagues.

www.nytimes.com

Lorentz would be nice...what's the value there? 2 years 1M per?

Mirtle said he thinks Kampf, Reaves and Domi are gone in one of his mail bags, it's his opinion.

I thought about Mason Appleton but away from Lowry, I do not like the player. I think we should add at least 2 guys with above average or great speed. I came up with...Duchene, Granlund, Dadonov, Roslovic, Robinson, Armia, Kiviranta & B.Tanev as possible targets.

I'm ignorant to the NCAA but what position is Karsen Dorwart? LW?

In terms of Shabanov...I feel like Tree 9/10 times does go for bigger players but sometimes surprises such as Dewar or Mangiapane (drafted) on his roster.

 

[SprDaVE]

Lorentz would be nice...what's the value there? 2 years 1M per?

Mirtle said he thinks Kampf, Reaves and Domi are gone in one of his mail bags, it's his opinion.

I thought about Mason Appleton but away from Lowry, I do not like the player. I think we should add at least 2 guys with above average or great speed. I came up with...Duchene, Granlund, Dadonov, Roslovic, Robinson, Armia, Kiviranta & B.Tanev as possible targets.

I'm ignorant to the NCAA but what position is Karsen Dorwart? LW?

In terms of Shabanov...I feel like Tree 9/10 times does go for bigger players but sometimes surprises such as Dewar or Mangiapane (drafted) on his roster.

Kampf is 99% gone. I'd be completely shocked if he stays around. Reaves is 100% gone to me as well. Domi I'd put at 50/50, but with his low/negative value and his role on the team I think I could see one more season to redeem himself. Jarnkrok is also 50/50 depending on a few things.

Dorwart is a center per the article, but who knows at the pro level where he falls.

Treliving has signed/drafted plenty of small players. Not sure there are any correlations that he only likes big players.

 

[WTFMAN99]

Kampf is 99% gone. I'd be completely shocked if he stays around. Reaves is 100% gone to me as well. Domi I'd put at 50/50, but with his low/negative value and his role on the team I think I could see one more season to redeem himself. Jarnkrok is also 50/50 depending on a few things.

Dorwart is a center per the article, but who knows at the pro level where he falls.

Treliving has signed/drafted plenty of small players. Not sure there are any correlations that he only likes big players.

With the recent string of scratches for Kampf...unless he's hurt, tells me Berube doesn't care for him which is I guess similar to where the problems were at the beginning of the year when he tried to have Holmberg replace Kampf.

Reaves is gone

Domi I think 50/50 like you said, I think if his playoffs aren't fantastic, he's gonna be a possible goner. I could see Chicago being a possibility, he didn't fit terribly there and doubt they're on his NTC.

Jarnkrok...I could see going, especially if there is a bad playoff showing like his past 3, I think he's got like 1 goal in his last 18 playoff games.

 

[Fogelhund]

Tre needs to keep in touch with Toews. There is more in the tank there. He’s only 36.

It all depends on whether he can contribute again. He could be a decent cost effective 3C, if he can find some form.

 

[Fogelhund]

With the recent string of scratches for Kampf...unless he's hurt, tells me Berube doesn't care for him which is I guess similar to where the problems were at the beginning of the year when he tried to have Holmberg replace Kampf.

Reaves is gone

Domi I think 50/50 like you said, I think if his playoffs aren't fantastic, he's gonna be a possible goner. I could see Chicago being a possibility, he didn't fit terribly there and doubt they're on his NTC.

Jarnkrok...I could see going, especially if there is a bad playoff showing like his past 3, I think he's got like 1 goal in his last 18 playoff games.

If we keep Tavares and Marner... there really isn't a lot of money left for the bottom six, even with the cap rising significantly. We'll have to shed salaries, that aren't providing excess play over their salaries. That would include Domi, Jarnkrok, Reaves and Kampf.

Knies and Tavares both at $5.5, and Marner at $13.5 with Domi, Jarnkrok, Reaves and Kampf gone, gives us around $9 mil left, with SEVEN forwards signed, SIX D, and TWO goalies.

 

[WTFMAN99]

If we keep Tavares and Marner... there really isn't a lot of money left for the bottom six, even with the cap rising significantly. We'll have to shed salaries, that aren't providing excess play over their salaries. That would include Domi, Jarnkrok, Reaves and Kampf.

Knies and Tavares both at $5.5, and Marner at $13.5 with Domi, Jarnkrok, Reaves and Kampf gone, gives us around $9 mil left, with SEVEN forwards signed, SIX D, and TWO goalies.

We're similar but different

Tuch comparable puts Knies around 5.45M x7 years but we never get a break so I figure 6x6 for Knies...

Marner I am between writing off entirely of I am at 12.5M x 8 years, after that (without deferrals) you gotta walk.

JT...need to see playoffs, if he flounders again, my interest is luke warmm.

Another option to move is Rielly as we've discussed on here.

 

[Folignos Helmet]

IF Marner leaves I think you could grab a winger on the cheap in a trade from a team looking to clear some cap, these types of trades seem to happen a lot in offseason but we are always too cash strapped to step in. Names like Kane from Edmonton, Marchment from Dallas, Anderson (retained) from Montreal, etc.

 

[Fogelhund]

We're similar but different

Tuch comparable puts Knies around 5.45M x7 years but we never get a break so I figure 6x6 for Knies...

Marner I am between writing off entirely of I am at 12.5M x 8 years, after that (without deferrals) you gotta walk.

JT...need to see playoffs, if he flounders again, my interest is luke warmm.

Another option to move is Rielly as we've discussed on here.

Even if we move on from JT, we aren't getting either of Granlund, Bennett for cheaper. Gourde could be cheaper, but also a significant downgrade as a 2C... I mean, he'd be an acceptable 3C.... So whether we pencil in JT staying or not, we still don't have a lot of money floating around.

Marner of course is the wild card. Moving Rielly is something I did in my mock, but I don't think it saves you much money either.

 

[WTFMAN99]

Even if we move on from JT, we aren't getting either of Granlund, Bennett for cheaper. Gourde could be cheaper, but also a significant downgrade as a 2C... I mean, he'd be an acceptable 3C.... So whether we pencil in JT staying or not, we still don't have a lot of money floating around.

Marner of course is the wild card. Moving Rielly is something I did in my mock, but I don't think it saves you much money either.

If Rielly would waive for Calgary and they'd be willing to deal with us, Blake Coleman or Yegor Sharangovich is probably the best outcome.

Granlund is 33 years old....could they do a 2-3 year deal around 5.5-6M? 8M, 5M, 4.5M = 5.83M

8M 1st year with 7.1M signing bonus, 900k salary is a decent chunk up front for Granlund?

Ehlers would be worthwhile around 7.5M

I have kinda given up on the idea of Bennett.

 

[Folignos Helmet]

Even if we move on from JT, we aren't getting either of Granlund, Bennett for cheaper. Gourde could be cheaper, but also a significant downgrade as a 2C... I mean, he'd be an acceptable 3C.... So whether we pencil in JT staying or not, we still don't have a lot of money floating around.

Marner of course is the wild card. Moving Rielly is something I did in my mock, but I don't think it saves you much money either.

If you keep the 2 goalies and 7 D we have, drop Domi, Jarnkrok and Kampf, sign Knies - say 5 million, Lorenz, Holmberg, and Robertson all re-up for 1 million, add Cowan making it on his rookie deal you would have about 27 million to spend on 3-4 forwards - you could plug Evander Kane (cap dump trade), Bennett, Frederic, Tavares and Anderson (retained) and still have money to burn
Knies - AM - Kane
McMann - Bennett - Willie
Tavares - Laughton - Robertson
Lorenz - Frederic - Anderson
Holmberg/Cowan

 

[Phion Keneuf]

Mangiapane could be a sneaky good pickup. Would not give him a raise on his current contract though.. maybe a short term prove it deal. Local guy who I think can rejuvenate his career here.

 

[Fogelhund]

If Rielly would waive for Calgary and they'd be willing to deal with us, Blake Coleman or Yegor Sharangovich is probably the best outcome.

Granlund is 33 years old....could they do a 2-3 year deal around 5.5-6M? 8M, 5M, 4.5M = 5.83M

8M 1st year with 7.1M signing bonus, 900k salary is a decent chunk up front for Granlund?

Ehlers would be worthwhile around 7.5M

I have kinda given up on the idea of Bennett.

As sad a statement as this is, Granlund could be the premier C on the market... well after Tavares anyway. I think he's going to get paid... and even if you assume the $5.83... that's more than I've assumed for Tavares.. so still not much money left.

 

[WTFMAN99]

As sad a statement as this is, Granlund could be the premier C on the market... well after Tavares anyway. I think he's going to get paid... and even if you assume the $5.83... that's more than I've assumed for Tavares.. so still not much money left.

They're talking about 6-7M on JT similar to Pavelski for a 2-3 year deal which I have zero interest in.

 

[Fogelhund]

If you keep the 2 goalies and 7 D we have, drop Domi, Jarnkrok and Kampf, sign Knies - say 5 million, Lorenz, Holmberg, and Robertson all re-up for 1 million, add Cowan making it on his rookie deal you would have about 27 million to spend on 3-4 forwards - you could plug Evander Kane (cap dump trade), Bennett, Frederic, Tavares and Anderson (retained) and still have money to burn
Knies - AM - Kane
McMann - Bennett - Willie
Tavares - Laughton - Robertson
Lorenz - Frederic - Anderson
Holmberg/Cowan

Bennett would be a nice pickup, but I highly doubt he makes it to Free Agency. I'm also not sure Evander Kane is much of an answer for anything at this point... I guess we'll see what he's got if he comes back in the playoffs. Anderson retained, is still not worth it.

 

[Fogelhund]

They're talking about 6-7M on JT similar to Pavelski for a 2-3 year deal which I have zero interest in.

I figure he'll get paid 6-7, with deferral bringing that cap hit down some.