Value of: Rossi to Flyers

[Hockeyfan200]

To be clear, I'm offering this in the context of "Guerin might like this". I'm well aware that Minnesota fans don't always see eye to eye with what their GM wants to do.

Couturier + Foerster + pick
for
Rossi + Hartman


Minnesota gets bigger both short-term and long-term, but gives up the highest potential player and takes on a bit of a risky contract (Couturier 5 years). Everything I've read about Guerin as a GM suggests to me that he's the kind of GM that would want Couturier, even with the 5 year contract term.
Centers = Eriksson Ek + Couturier + Gaudreau

Philadelphia gets the highest potential young guy, brings in a tough veteran to offset the loss of Couturier, and walks away from Couturier's 5 year contract. They lose a bit of size and will now (or very soon) begin relying on Jett Luchanko to bring defensive responsibility and penalty killing to the center position. Hartman plays center sometimes, so they can rely on him until Luchanko is ready.
Centers = Rossi + Cates + ( Hartman / Luchanko )


Coming down the pipeline at the center position... In addition to Luchanko, the Flyers could be drafting a center at 6th overall. Likely Frondell, Desnoyers or maybe even O'Brien. Minnesota has, well, not too much coming at center as far as I know. Yurov is an impressive prospect, but it's unclear to me if he will be playing center in the NHL or winger. I'm assuming winger. Maybe they'll use 52nd overall to draft a center.

Minnesota isn't taking on that horrible contract of Sean C who was literally benched last year and is injury prone. Hartman also had an amazing playoffs.

Yurov also has a top 4 or top 6 Guaranteed C role already. It's been promised to him.

 

[lanceuppercut75]

As a flyers fan, I hate this.

Minnesota isn't taking on that horrible contract of Sean C who was literally benched last year and is injury prone. Hartman also had an amazing playoffs.

Yurov also has a top 4 or top 6 Guaranteed C role already. It's been promised to him.

Both fanbases think the trade is bad value for their respective sides. Cool. Draw up the paperwork I guess. We have a deal.

 

[Hockeyfan200]

Both fanbases think the trade is bad value for their respective sides. Cool. Draw up the paperwork I guess. We have a deal.

Um nope. No deal

 

[Kshahdoo]

Minnesota isn't taking on that horrible contract of Sean C who was literally benched last year and is injury prone. Hartman also had an amazing playoffs.

Yurov also has a top 4 or top 6 Guaranteed C role already. It's been promised to him.

Couturier after the break 20 points in 25 games, Rossi 13 points in 26 games... Couturier is way bigger and better defensively.

 

[AKL]

Couturier after the break 20 points in 25 games, Rossi 13 points in 26 games... Couturier is way bigger and better defensively.

Couturier before the break 25 points in 54 games, Rossi 47 points in 56 games

I can cherry pick stats too

 

[Kshahdoo]

Couturier before the break 25 points in 54 games, Rossi 47 points in 56 games

I can cherry pick stats too

Well, Couturier missed the whole 2022/23 season so of course it took him some time to get back to form. And playing with TK and MM helped too. He missed 12 games in the last 2 seasons, so is more or less healthy now. And it's Minnesota who needs to win now while Kaprizov is at his prime, Flyers is rebuilding so they need younger players.

I'd say Couturier + 1st for Rossi wouldn't actually be that bad. I think Sean is good for another 2-3 solid seasons, because the strongest part of his game is IQ not speed. Add to this his size, defensive expertise, and 56.1 FO%.

But if Minnesota doesn't like it, then no problems. Flyers' young kids need veteran players who will help them to get comfortable in the league.

 

[Esem]

Lets make it simple - Tippett (size) + 2nd for Marco Rossi.
Foerster is of the table

 

[AKL]

Well, Couturier missed the whole 2022/23 season so of course it took him some time to get back to form.

Oh okay then can we consider Rossi's injury in March as well when looking at your stats?

 

[Kshahdoo]

Oh okay then can we consider Rossi's injury in March as well when looking at your stats?

So you say Rossi is injury prone?

 

[MK9]

Lets make it simple - Tippett (size) + 2nd for Marco Rossi.
Foerster is of the table

Ok. The simple answer is, 'no.'.

 

[57special]

So you say Rossi is injury prone?

Well, he's missed one game in his past two seasons.

Couterier has been a really good two way player, but his body is breaking down, and he is way past his prime, while Rossi is just entering his.

BTW, PHI has a TON of draft picks coming in the next few years. Fans have to be hoping that Briere is up to the task.

 

[Kshahdoo]

Well, he's missed one game in his past two seasons.

Couterier has been a really good two way player, but his body is breaking down, and he is way past his prime, while Rossi is just entering his.

BTW, PHI has a TON of draft picks coming in the next few years. Fans have to be hoping that Briere is up to the task.

Yeah, tons of picks is great, but why wouldn't add an established NHL player to them?

Couturier missed 12 games in the last 2 seasons. If it's breaking down then what will you say about Kaprizov and EEk?

 

[PDX Flyer]

Minnesota isn't taking on that horrible contract of Sean C who was literally benched last year and is injury prone. Hartman also had an amazing playoffs.

Yurov also has a top 4 or top 6 Guaranteed C role already. It's been promised to him.

Saying he was benched certainly is a stretch to fill a narrative. Anyone with a couple brain cells knows that was Torts being a prick on a power trip. Not a coincidence that Coots played a lot better once Torts was fired.

 

[DigitalBoldy]

Well, he's missed one game in his past two seasons.

I don’t see a missed game. He left during the middle of a game sometime in or around March. Is that what you’re referring to?