Proposal: ROR to WSH for 1st, 2nd, Eriks Mateiko

[Silky mitts]

He’s got term and Friedman indicated it needs to be a strong offer for them to bring it to ROR even though he doesn’t have a NTC. Brunette was a plodding goal scorer, Mateiko might appeal to him.

To WSH
Ryan O’Reilly

To NSH
2025 Washington 1st
2025 Boston 2nd
Eriks Mateiko
Ethan Bear

If Nashville wants a more NHL ready player
To WSH
Ryan O’Reilly

To NSH
Hendrix Lapierre
2025 Boston 2nd
2026 Washington 4th
Ethan Bear

Caps forwards could be
Ovy Strome McMichael
Protas PLD Wilson
Eller ROR Leonard
Duhaime Dowd Mangiapane

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[JoeSakic13]

Seems like an overpayment to grab a guy who’s signed @ 4.5 mill until 2027 when he’s 36.

This might be the asking price if there’s retention on salary by Nashville, but I don’t feel like Trotz would move ROR unless there was no retention. Mind you some of his decisions this season have shocked me…..

 

[trick9]

Pass.

Caps already got their 3C in Eller. While ROR would definitely be an upgrade there is absolutely no need to drastically overpay to acquire him. Eller is a center, not a winger.

Also even though it's a big overpayment, i'm not sure this deal makes sense for the Predators either. They are already loaded with picks and i'm sure if they were to trade ROR, they'd rather get young NHL-ready players.

 

[Coffee]

Deal

 

[olli]

Pass.

Caps already got their 3C in Eller. While ROR would definitely be an upgrade there is absolutely no need to drastically overpay to acquire him. Eller is a center, not a winger.

Also even though it's a big overpayment, i'm not sure this deal makes sense for the Predators either. They are already loaded with picks and i'm sure if they were to trade ROR, they'd rather get young NHL-ready players.

If the caps are serious about being contenders this year then Eller is not good enough as a 3C

 

[Roshi]

Id offer 1st+Lapierre from WSH.

Strome/Dubois/ROR/Dowd blocks the C spots for couple years atleast, so Lapierre is on the outs anyways if this goes down.

 

[kingsfan2012]

Byfield is available

 

[trick9]

If the caps are serious about being contenders this year then Eller is not good enough as a 3C

That's your opinion and it's fine.

For me it's enough. Lars Eller is already familiar with the team and they've already won the Cup with him as 3C. He's not as good as we then but then again his role is smaller now too. Caps 3C is actually their 4C since Dowd mostly faces tough competition. They've drafted so well recently so offering this haul for a marginal upgrade would be really dumb. They can improve the 3rd line by picking up another winger there for a smallish price (See: Duclair to TBL for a 3rd + random prospect).

I'm sure Preds can get their overpayment elsewhere, if they decide to move him. Team like Devils are desperate for a 3C.

 

[Roshi]

If the caps are serious about being contenders this year then Eller is not good enough as a 3C

Thats the only guy in Capitals history to score a stanley cup winning goal though, so....

 

[Porter Stoutheart]

I don’t think this would be even close to what Trotz would need for O’Reilly. The picks are way too low. His asking price would be so high that you might just as well consider ROR to be completely unavailable.

 

[Devilmademedoit]

He’s got term and Friedman indicated it needs to be a strong offer for them to bring it to ROR even though he doesn’t have a NTC. Brunette was a plodding goal scorer, Mateiko might appeal to him.

To WSH
Ryan O’Reilly

To NSH
2025 Washington 1st
2025 Boston 2nd
Eriks Mateiko
Ethan Bear

Caps forwards could be
Ovy Strome McMichael
Protas PLD Wilson
Eller ROR Leonard
Duhaime Dowd Mangiapane

Interesting trade. Cap want to get Ovie one more cup

 

[Devilmademedoit]

For those saying it is alot. It looks like a lot but once see the 1st will be around 25 to 30. Ethan Bear is a fringe player, Eriks Mateiko is unknown. So it is the picks that would be key.

The fact he signed for a few more season and still producing? I can see a few teams getting involved if the preds decide to move him

 

[Melkor]

There was a time back in the day when I was ready to part even with multiple 1sts for ROR. That time has passed a good while ago..

 

[Scoresberg]

A whole bunch of nothing for ROR? I’ll pass.

 

[WolfOfBroadStreet14]

Byfield is available

Would Byfield really be available? If so I think the Flyers would offer up pretty much anything other than Michkov.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Seems like an overpayment to grab a guy who’s signed @ 4.5 mill until 2027 when he’s 36.

This might be the asking price if there’s retention on salary by Nashville, but I don’t feel like Trotz would move ROR unless there was no retention. Mind you some of his decisions this season have shocked me…..

Factor in TDL and supply/demand. There are no such thing as "fair value" at TDL's. It's all about supply and demand.

Byfield is available

What are you looking for in return? Center, D or futures?

 

[Porter Stoutheart]

A whole bunch of nothing for ROR? I’ll pass.

It's funny, most of us Preds fans would be quite willing to trade ROR for futures, even while we KNOW that Trotz never would. But even for us fans, another late 1st round pick is really not at all appetizing. We have long come to the realization that those picks are almost worthless to our franchise.

The Latvian project sounds a little interesting, but honestly if you were going to try to catch Trotz's ear you would need that pick to be in the top-15 of the draft at least, and you'd need the prospect to be one of your absolute best ones, a real blue-chipper, not more of a project type. And then you'd still have to sit patiently while Trotz took that offer of a bluechip prospect + top-15 1st rounder to O'Reilly, discussed whether he wanted to join your team, probably with it being unlikely that he wants to leave Nashville, so even with that impossible offer on the table, it would still probably not go through. Which is why we've all come to accept in Nashville that O'Reilly is simply "not available".

 

[Misery74]

A whole bunch of nothing for ROR? I’ll pass.

Really? A first, a second? Did you watch Mateiko in the WJC?

Pass, fine. But those are good assets, period.

 

[DEANYOUNGBLOOD17]

He would not agree to go Washington as Washington does not have any easily accessible / comparable establishments to Tim Hortons open at 4 AM to ease his late night munchies when he’s on a bender.

He should be traded to A Canadian team where there is a Tim Hortons on every corner.

“You can’t shake a stick ( or drive a Green Pick up truck in a straight line) in Canada without running into a Tim Hortons!

 

[qc14]

A whole bunch of nothing for ROR? I’ll pass.

This is more than ROR brought back the first time he was dealt.

I wouldn't hate it, but I also think there are targets that make much more sense for the Caps

 

[Drake1588]

A late first rounder and a good prospect is a lot of value. I don't know. I think that's about as far as contenders will go. I think it's as far as the Caps will go this trade deadline.

The Caps seem to be in the market for a forward, in addition to promoting Laonard after the Frozen Four. I'm just not sure this is their guy. I think they really want Brock Nelson, whose pending UFA status fits better with what I think they want to do. I don't think they're looking to re-sign whoever they bring in. ROR's extra year may not be as attractive for them as it would be for other clubs.

Leonard, Hutson, and Cristall are probably off the market. Yet Mateiko shone at the WJCs for Latvia earlier this month, and Lapierre was the AHL Calder Cup MVP in June 2024, with two straight AHL championships. Those are good prospects. A 1st rounder and a B+ prospect isn't going to be easy to beat, if futures is the ask. If it's quality roster players, contenders rarely want to part with them at the deadline. (In the summer, sure.)

 

[Porter Stoutheart]

A late first rounder and a good prospect is a lot of value. I don't know. I think that's about as far as contenders will go. I think it's as far as the Caps will go this trade deadline.

The Caps seem to be in the market for a forward, in addition to promoting Laonard after the Frozen Four. I'm just not sure this is their guy. I think they really want Brock Nelson, whose pending UFA status fits better with what I think they want to do. I don't think they're looking to re-sign whoever they bring in. ROR's extra year may not be as attractive for them as it would be for other clubs.

Leonard, Hutson, and Cristall are probably off the market. Yet Mateiko shone at the WJCs for Latvia earlier this month, and Lapierre was the AHL Calder Cup MVP in June 2024, with two straight AHL championships. Those are good prospects. A 1st rounder and a B+ prospect isn't going to be easy to beat, if futures is the ask. If it's quality roster players, contenders rarely want to part with them at the deadline. (In the summer, sure.)

It's a valid argument... in a vacuum... but the typical "market value" really means nothing here. O'Reilly isn't available. So if you want to somehow shake the foundations of that reality, you would need to come up with a significantly better offer. You need to offer a high-1st rounder + A-prospect. If you can't (and nobody would ever argue that you should for this player), then you just need to accept the insanity that lurks in Barry Trotz's brain and move on to seeking a different player. It is what it is. Sorry.

 

[GRob83]

No thanks. It could be a huge mistake to disturb the chemistry of this team. Eller is only the 3rd line center on paper. He is playing 4 minutes a games less with Washington than he was with Pittsburgh. The Capitals have Strome, Dubois, Dowd and Eller as regular centers but also have McMichael and Protas as everyday wingers who have experience at Center. By seasons end they could realistically have any combination of Vrana, Miroschnichenko, Leonard, Milano and Lapierre as depth players going into the playoffs.

 

[Silky mitts]

Id offer 1st+Lapierre from WSH.

Strome/Dubois/ROR/Dowd blocks the C spots for couple years atleast, so Lapierre is on the outs anyways if this goes down.

I added a Lapierre, 2nd, 4th, and Bear offer, 1st and Lappy is pretty steep unless they've really soured on him

 

[Porter Stoutheart]

I added a Lapierre, 2nd, 4th, and Bear offer, 1st and Lappy is pretty steep unless they've really soured on him

The Preds would waive a player like Lapierre at the earliest opportunity once he's eligible to be waived, and I don't understand why anybody thinks Trotz wants to bolster Milwaukee so badly with Ethan Bear? There is nothing whatsoever in any of these offers that is going to catch Trotz's ear. You are going to have to step it up to your Leonard/Miroschnichenko/Cristall types of prospects, find a way to acquire a higher 1st rounder, and... STILL it might not be enough. And that should tell you all you need to know... that O'Reilly simply isn't available. Because that's a totally insane ask, and yet... it's what Trotz will want. Sad, for all of us on all sides. O'Reilly isn't available.