Prospect Info: Roman Kantserov 44th Overall

[bwana63]

Can’t wait to talk about him MAYBE coming stateside nine years from now.

as if the default wait time for Russian players is 9 flippin' years. who pissed in your Cheerios?

 

[WarriorofTime]

Can’t wait to talk about him MAYBE coming stateside nine years from now.

Thanks for your contribution to the thread…

 

[ColbyChaos]

Can’t wait to talk about him MAYBE coming stateside nine years from now.

Most Positive Poster

Based on interviews and the general situation in general can’t imagine any player wanting a player to stay in Russia and their inflation filled economy than pretty much anywhere else at this point

 

[TLEH]

 

[dj Mahoney]

United Nation's line KANTSEROV BEDARD REICHEL

 

[Muffinalt]

Safe to say our scouts in Russia have improved significantly.

Kantserov and Safonov both look very very promising.

 

[Kevin Musto]

Safe to say our scouts in Russia have improved significantly.

Kantserov and Safonov both look very very promising.

Nothing has changed in regard to scouting Russia, other than Andrei Nikolishin getting fired.

Nikolishin was there to draft Safonov, but not there to draft Kantserov.

I don't think any improvements have been made at all, other than overall scouting improvements (Kelley getting fired, Doneghey taking over), but nothing exclusive to Russia.

 

[Caser]

Nothing has changed in regard to scouting Russia, other than Andrei Nikolishin getting fired.

Nikolishin was there to draft Safonov, but not there to draft Kantserov.

I don't think any improvements have been made at all, other than overall scouting improvements (Kelley getting fired, Doneghey taking over), but nothing exclusive to Russia.

That's already a solid improvement.

 

[Kevin Musto]

That's already a solid improvement.

Okay but there's no tangible proof of improvement since he was fired.

If you're going to cite Safonov and Kantserov as successes, Nikolishin was involved with one of those picks so you can't have it both ways.

 

[Caser]

Okay but there's no tangible proof of improvement since he was fired.

If you're going to cite Safonov and Kantserov as successes, Nikolishin was involved with one of those picks so you can't have it both ways.

Pretty sure it was stated that Safonov was Semenov's guy, although I suspect that Nikolishin likely was involved too, still I think it is hard to find a less ethical and professional guy than him for that role, so it is an improvement in my eyes.

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

I think it's peculiar people want to argue with the Russian guy watching our Russian prospects about who's the better prospect.

 

[Caser]

I think it's peculiar people want to argue with the Russian guy watching our Russian prospects about who's the better prospect.

We aren't arguing about it in this thread though I think, more like about the impact of firing Nikolishin.

However if talking about Safonov vs. Kantserov, I also don't think that anyone is arguing about that, as at this point Safonov is notably better as a player yet Kantserov might have a higher upside, so he might be better in the future.

 

[WarriorofTime]

Between Safonov and Greene, I like the hawks potential third line center options going forward.

 

[ColbyChaos]

I think it's peculiar people want to argue with the Russian guy watching our Russian prospects about who's the better prospect.

Be honest no one is surprised it’s Musto lol.

Vlassic could become a Norris level defenseman and he would still say he’s trash while pumping up Ian Mitchell who is more likely to be working at the speedway on 183rd and Harlem than he is to become a top 4 D

 

[MicronMega]

Who cares who scouted him, all that matters is the kid has great upside and he is Blackhawks property for years to come. That is the nice luxury of having multiple second round picks

 

[Kevin Musto]

Who cares who scouted him, all that matters is the kid has great upside and he is Blackhawks property for years to come. That is the nice luxury of having multiple second round picks

Great upside is a stretch.

The path from undersized MHLer to NHL top 6 forward is slim.

You've got like Kucherov... that's kind of it.

And Kantserov is not a Kucherov level prospect.

 

[kmwtrucks]

he is not that undersized 5-9 176 is a pretty solid build. KD mentioned his build at the post draft.

 

[hawksfan50]

"Kantserov is not a Kucherov level prosoect"..WHAT?

Let me see ...Kucheriv drafted in 2nd roubd at #58...Kantersov drafted in 2nd roubdof his draft at #44...Logic dictates that Kanterov should be even higher regarded than Kurcherov was by the doubters especially since the 2023 draft was so deep and highly regarded as a special drFt..

Therefore do not make silly judgements yet...NOBODY KNOWS how things will turn out...Maybe Kantserov is capable of duplicating or exceeding what Kucherov has done...you just do not know..The drFtmaft is crapshoot ...but off the draft positions it looks like Kantserov was even higher regarded thN Kucherov was ..

 

[Kevin Musto]

"Kantserov is not a Kucherov level prosoect"..WHAT?

Let me see ...Kucheriv drafted in 2nd roubd at #58...Kantersov drafted in 2nd roubdof his draft at #44...Logic dictates that Kanterov should be even higher regarded than Kurcherov was by the doubters especially since the 2023 draft was so deep and highly regarded as a special drFt..

Therefore do not make silly judgements yet...NOBODY KNOWS how things will turn out...Maybe Kantserov is capable of duplicating or exceeding what Kucherov has done...you just do not know..The drFtmaft is crapshoot ...but off the draft positions it looks like Kantserov was even higher regarded thN Kucherov was ..

Fidster, using draft position as justification is silly.

Besides, it doesn't support your argument anyway. Kantserov was projected to be an early 3rd round pick. Whereas Kucherov was being eyed as a late 1st/early 2nd.

 

[TheFridge]

Great upside is a stretch.

The path from undersized MHLer to NHL top 6 forward is slim.

You've got like Kucherov... that's kind of it.

And Kantserov is not a Kucherov level prospect.

He's got all the attributes the team covets and wants to build around. I don't think anyone is expecting him to be Kurcherov. If he can be a middle-six guy, great. The biggest issue with Russians is getting them over here.

 

[Kevin Musto]

He's got all the attributes the team covets and wants to build around. I don't think anyone is expecting him to be Kurcherov. If he can be a middle-six guy, great. The biggest issue with Russians is getting them over here.

I'm not worried about that.

Seems like both parties want that to happen next year.

 

[clydesdale line]

Is he as talented as Michkov? f*** no (their numbers in the MHL are night and day) but he is a very talented young winger. And not fair to judge his projection in his draft year considering this draft is considered one of the deepest in years and he was still a 2nd round talent based off Hawks scouts and likely other team(s) too. I can see him having a Kerfoot like career. A solid playmaking middle 6 winger who can play up in the lineup.

 

[Kevin Musto]

I can see him having a Kerfoot like career

That's a reasonable take

 

[hawksfan50]

Sorry but you cannot call Kucherov being considered as a firstrounder at his draft if 57 teams passed on him before he was picked.. That is too far off any "consensus"" he was thought of as a 1st round material...Maybe early 2nd...where Hawks could have drafted him instead of who they took.

I recall th we shoukd have targeted Kucherov as our choice with the first pick we had in round 2 of that drFt..but alas .

ANYWAY no guarantee Kantserov will be as goid as Kucherov ..but one never knows ..it also us a matter of tge suppirt cast and the opportunity(eg. Does he play o PP1)..If these 2 elements not there then no way will Kantserov be close to the poi to producer Kucherov has been..but if they are present then you never know how good he might turn out.

P.S. ...as I recall I wanted Kucheovat #36 with our first pick of round 2...Starkey took AdamClendennibg instead= but.


I still wanted Kucherob at #43.. We too BrandonSadd i stead...decent ngl wi gwr...but no Kucherov.

In Stanley's defense,we had Kane as 1RW.. so Kucherov on our teamwork have had to play 2nd fiddle RW and not be onthe Pp1..

So there is that.

We simply do not know who will be Po1 in 2 or 3 years when Kantserov maybe gets his shot on the Haws.

 

[WarriorofTime]

Kucherov went 3 PPG at the Under-18s. It’s pretty ridiculous he went so late. Of course, that’s easy to say with complete hindsight.

Anyways, Kucherov has been a top 5 forward in the world for many years, so a standard of Kucherov or Bust for a mid-2nd round pick ridiculous… but it’s Musto we’re talking about here.