Value of: Roman Josi to Edmonton?

Porter Stoutheart

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I dont blame you for being high on him. I personally think he will be as good (better maybe) as prime ekholm but he is still a few years out before he really hits his stride. So for nashville, i see it as resetting the clock and for edmonton itd be fast forwarding it (hopefully not too far).
I suspect nothing will ultimately happen. Poile has no pressing need to trade Ekholm... if he can draw a truly attractive return like 1st+Broberg, he could do it, but he probably won't "settle" or make any significant concessions, so any buyer would have to really be ready to pay the full price. It's not like he'll panic and drop his price at the deadline like guys with impending UFAs might.
 
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ManofSteel55

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For some reason I thought had one more. I dont know who or why I thought that :laugh:
Some consider Pulujarvi, Yamamoto and Foegele to be bad contracts. Pulujarvi's is expiring, so that doesn't count to me. Yamamoto is on a down year, but I don't think 3M for a 20 goal scorer is bad. Foegele I wouldn't argue with. I don't agree with it, but due to consistency issues with him, I wouldn't argue if anyone called him a bad contract.
 

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Some consider Pulujarvi, Yamamoto and Foegele to be bad contracts. Pulujarvi's is expiring, so that doesn't count to me. Yamamoto is on a down year, but I don't think 3M for a 20 goal scorer is bad. Foegele I wouldn't argue with. I don't agree with it, but due to consistency issues with him, I wouldn't argue if anyone called him a bad contract.

I didnt think of those three I think. I guess I just assumed because its Holland (Im a wings fan) I just assumed the worst
 
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beowulf

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Ya no that won't happen. First I see Josi as a lifetime Pred though anything could happen. But there is no way such a large trade happens and the Oilers are giving up their future, potentially for a long time, for a slightly better chance at a cup this year or next.
 

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So...because a team isn't that great right now and may need a possible rebuild, they should agree to give their best players for crappy offers?

Not how that works.
I didn't say Nashville has to accept crappy offers lol

But saying the offers should start with Draisaitl? lol yeah So you guys wants Draisaitl and then some? lol

And if you're rebuilding, why would you want Draisaitl and not picks and prospects instead?
 
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Porter Stoutheart

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I didn't say Nashville has to accept crappy offers lol

But saying the offers should start with Draisaitl? lol yeah So you guys wants Draisaitl and then some? lol

And if you're rebuilding, why would you want Draisaitl and not picks and prospects instead?
Josi is an elite star in the league on the same level as Draisatl is. But Draisatl only has 2 years left on his contract before becoming a free agent. So as an asset, Josi is worth at least as much. Hence Draisatl was mentioned as the entry point if you wanted to talk about Josi. But in reality, Josi is the Preds' captain and franchise player, he has a NMC that he wouldn't waive to go to Edmonton, so even if you offered Draisatl, it wouldn't be doable from the Nashville perspective.

And the Preds aren't likely to rebuild, not by tanking entirely at any rate. Where does that come from? It's just a faulty assumption from the same original posting as the first horrific trade suggestion. Nobody here is truly asking for Draisatl, nobody wants to trade Josi, the Preds aren't going to be tanking. Draisatl is only mentioned to drive home the point that Josi has far greater value to the Predators than the original post suggests.
 
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North Cole

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Then don't even mention Josi. You don't get to have it both ways. Want a franchise player? Offer a franchise player.
OP's proposal is dumb as hell, but assuming we throw his whole rotten offer out and start with your counter, what's the add on NSH side?
 

AtlantaWhaler

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I didn't say Nashville has to accept crappy offers lol

But saying the offers should start with Draisaitl? lol yeah So you guys wants Draisaitl and then some? lol

And if you're rebuilding, why would you want Draisaitl and not picks and prospects instead?
Well, for starters, most rebuilds don't deplete the team of their franchise players. You build around them. This proposal asks for 2 of our 3 franchise players.

So, in the case of the OP's ask, a franchise player, a player to build around, would need to come the other way.
 
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Viqsi

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OP's proposal is dumb as hell, but assuming we throw his whole rotten offer out and start with your counter, what's the add on NSH side?
I frankly wouldn't bother. I don't think selling Josi or Saros makes any sense for the Preds at this juncture and I don't see how moving Draisaitl would reasonably help the Oilers.
 
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ManofSteel55

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Well, for starters, most rebuilds don't deplete the team of their franchise players. You build around them. This proposal asks for 2 of our 3 franchise players.

So, in the case of the OP's ask, a franchise player, a player to build around, would need to come the other way.
Yeah, this proposal isn't a traditional rebuild trade, its a Hindenberg-esque, scorched earth, throw the baby out with the bath water and start over from ground zero trade. Those don't happen. Nashville might be in need of a rebuild of sorts, but they still have enough key pieces that some minor changes could get them back to being a perennial playoff team. They aren't even that far out from being one right now. They are 7 points out, a run of wins by them and losses by Minnesota and Calgary could see them fighting for that 8 spot still. Unlikely, but possible. The proposal was built on the flawed thought that Nashville is worse than they actually are.
 

AvroArrow

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This is trash for Nashville, Campbell alone will cost 2 firsts to dump, a 1st to retain on Josi. Then you're dumping Barrie as well
 

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