GDT: Rob Ray Sabres HOF Induction. Nashville Predators vs. Buffalo Sabres MSG, NHLN 7:00pm

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I wanted to circle back around to one of the quotes from Ray during the ceremony about Donald Audette. There was a game where Ray tangled with Domi a couple of nights after Domi had made the heavyweight belt gesture after winning a fight with Bob Probert and Ray won the fight, and Donald had his own tilt with somebody who was about 6 inches taller than he was. And he beat the shit out of Ulyanov, one of the defenseman from Winnipeg. His hand was like he was cranking a siren. But the point of impact was Ulanov’s face over and over and over again. He was super pointy just like how Danny would be in the 2000s, but he was capable of beating people up who took him to be just another small, skilled French Canadian...
Way, way, way back in the dark ages you described the event as something like Audette feeding him like he was some sort of punching automaton. Made me nostalgic.
 
I would so much rather they trade Private Pile.
Here's where I disagree, I don't think Byram can run his own pairing and do well but he is great with our best player..

I think Owen can hold down a second pairing on his own and do quite well once we get him a partner that isn't total dog shit.
 
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Here's where I disagree, I don't think Byram can run his own pairing and do well but he is great with our best player..

I think Owen can hold down a second pairing on his own and do quite well once we get him a partner that isn't total dog shit.

The kid can’t defend. That’s his first job. He’s f***ing terrible at it. I’m tired of waiting for him to arrive. There is no fight in that dog. None. And I don’t need him to be a hitter or a fighter. I just need him to show some basic core competencies about urgency getting to the net, tying his man up, denying peoples hands in around his goalie. He’s f***ing horrible at it. I’ve rarely seen a defenseman who’s so inept at the most basic parts of his game. It’s f***ing embarrassing. He should be ashamed.
 
The kid can’t defend. That’s his first job. He’s f***ing terrible at it. I’m tired of waiting for him to arrive. There is no fight in that dog. None. And I don’t need him to be a hitter or a fighter. I just need him to show some basic core competencies about urgency getting to the net, tying his man up, denying peoples hands in around his goalie. He’s f***ing horrible at it. I’ve rarely seen a defenseman who’s so inept at the most basic parts of his game. It’s f***ing embarrassing. He should be ashamed.
Yeah I'm waiting for his Hedman light bulb moment and he showed flashes earlier in the season but looks like it didn't come to fruition.

Hope we can get a coach who can truly unlock him.
 
Yeah I'm waiting for his Hedman light bulb moment and he showed flashes earlier in the season but looks like it didn't come to fruition.

Hope we can get a coach who can truly unlock him.

I don’t think prime Larry Robinson coaching him would unlock any defensive light in that guy. I’m so through with him. And it’s not even having a partner to groom him or cover for him. We saw what? twice? three times? tonight where he’s late getting to the front of the net despite the fact that his partner is already there and engaged leading directly to goals against. He lets people get out manned at the most important place on the ice. I have no idea what’s going on inside of his head other than Kumbaya. What he’s missing has to come from within. And I don’t think it ever will.
 
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Byram plays better than Power when he’s paired with Dahlin and Power gets Joker or Samuelsson?

I, for one, am shocked.

If there’s any chance of them moving Power they need to switch their roles immediately and see what happens to Byram.
 
Here's where I disagree, I don't think Byram can run his own pairing and do well but he is great with our best player..

I think Owen can hold down a second pairing on his own and do quite well once we get him a partner that isn't total dog shit.
Will be interesting to see if KA pivots to something like that next. Wonder how M.Pettersson (extended) and Power would pair up.
 
I don’t think prime Larry Robinson, coaching him would unlock any defensive light in that guy. I’m so through with him. And it’s not even having a partner to groom him or cover for him. We saw what twice tonight where he’s late getting to the front of the net despite the fact that his partner is already there and engaged. He lets people get out manned at the most important place on the ice. I have no idea what’s going on inside of his head other than Kumbaya. What he’s missing has to come from within. And I don’t think it ever will.
He may get it someday but sabres don't have time to wait for it, you can only hope you get something decent because some other team thinks they can fix him. The cap news should help with that, but Adams would have to pull the trigger and not sit on his hands.
 
Byram plays better than Power when he’s paired with Dahlin and Power gets Joker or Samuelsson?

I, for one, am shocked.

If there’s any chance of them moving Power they need to switch their roles immediately and see what happens to Byram.

We saw them apart when Rasmus was hurt. Pile was still the shittier of the two.
 
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Gotta give kuddos to Adams for drafting Kulich...Can't always be a hammer :laugh:

This guy is going to be a difference maker on the ice. You can see he is something special.

His shot is so awesome and his release is so good.
 
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Gotta give kuddos to Adams for drafting Kulich...Can't always be a hammer :laugh:

This guy is going to be a difference maker on the ice. You can see he is something special.

His shot is so awesome and his release is so good.
I would give most kudos to Forton, they were trying to move up to get him 6 times ? and ended up not having to and getting him @ 28. I think we forget sometimes that Ostlund was the higher pick.
 
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Gotta give kuddos to Adams for drafting Kulich...Can't always be a hammer
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This guy is going to be a difference maker on the ice. You can see he is something special.

His shot is so awesome and his release is so good.

 
Way, way, way back in the dark ages you described the event as something like Audette feeding him like he was some sort of punching automaton. Made me nostalgic.

Even funnier, I think those were the seats we got compensated for because of a Colorado game that was delayed due to a December snow storm. And I remember they barely showed up for the game against the Av’s. It being the days before the Internet, it’s still kind of funny that Ray knew about Toe making his belt gesture because it was on a bunch of the Canadian news channels.
 
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Woof.

He's a beloved broadcaster and community asset who has been with the organization for 30 years. He's 4th all-time in games played here with 889.

What an absolute dog of a take.
After taking in the ceremony in person, I need to reemphasize this from earlier. Holy hell.

Don't care what anyone says, Rob is a humble club legend and one of the best ambassadors in Sabres history. His speech was all class and funny as ever. It was a great reason to get the alumni back together and remind everyone that there's still pride in the crest.

I fear for what the drought-era, zoomlenial cake-eater alumni of the future will be like, but for one night it was cool to remember the good and wild old times.
 
Byram plays better than Power when he’s paired with Dahlin and Power gets Joker or Samuelsson?

I, for one, am shocked.

If there’s any chance of them moving Power they need to switch their roles immediately and see what happens to Byram.
Byram almost always plays better than Power simply because he puts in an effort to defend the front of the net. Every time we have a lead with Power on the ice he just lets people sit in front of the net with no contesting at all. Power is also 2 draft years behind him in development so its not surprising that he's just plain better than Power and that won't change unless Power man's up and starts being active in front of the net.
 
The kid can’t defend. That’s his first job. He’s f***ing terrible at it. I’m tired of waiting for him to arrive. There is no fight in that dog. None. And I don’t need him to be a hitter or a fighter. I just need him to show some basic core competencies about urgency getting to the net, tying his man up, denying peoples hands in around his goalie. He’s f***ing horrible at it. I’ve rarely seen a defenseman who’s so inept at the most basic parts of his game. It’s f***ing embarrassing. He should be ashamed.

I rely a lot on the nuanced analysis of individual players that you guys so often give to shape my opinion of how they are developing, given that you have such an in depth understanding of the game and all its intricacies.

It's of no help to me at all when you sit on the fence and don't commit one way or the other.. ;)
 
Byram almost always plays better than Power simply because he puts in an effort to defend the front of the net. Every time we have a lead with Power on the ice he just lets people sit in front of the net with no contesting at all. Power is also 2 draft years behind him in development so its not surprising that he's just plain better than Power and that won't change unless Power man's up and starts being active in front of the net.
Mabye put him in a package for EP and also get some RD back
But then its the GM who is even more inept at his job then Power is at defending.
 
The kid can’t defend. That’s his first job. He’s f***ing terrible at it. I’m tired of waiting for him to arrive. There is no fight in that dog. None. And I don’t need him to be a hitter or a fighter. I just need him to show some basic core competencies about urgency getting to the net, tying his man up, denying peoples hands in around his goalie. He’s f***ing horrible at it. I’ve rarely seen a defenseman who’s so inept at the most basic parts of his game. It’s f***ing embarrassing. He should be ashamed.

....move him to RW?
 

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