Proposal: Ristolainen to Florida

[TheNumber4]

In the other Risto thread, posted this. It’s not an abnormal result this year.

Here's the game I watched. He was mediocre at best. These charts need Negative Offence based on wasted opportunities and not just QoT/QoC, I would have taken off points for the Grade A shooting opportunities the Flyers set up for him that he completely wasted.

 

[TheNumber4]

is he even good defensively? or offensively?

He's a black hole offensively.

 

[Sticksandsun]

I'm not trading Knight this year, this is his biggest audition this year to see if he's somewhat ready to play 40 or more games by start of 2025-26 season.

I'm fine with Zito trading a 2027(?) 1st + a prospect not named Samoskevich for a top 4 D but Knight looks to be rounding back into his previous potential before his leave into the PAP.

 

[TotalHomer]

I'm not trading Knight this year, this is his biggest audition this year to see if he's somewhat ready to play 40 or more games by start of 2025-26 season.

I'm fine with Zito trading a 2027(?) 1st + a prospect not named Samoskevich for a top 4 D but Knight looks to be rounding back into his previous potential before his leave into the PAP.

I don't want to trade him either but the fact is he won't play a game in the playoffs this year or next. That's 4.5 M in cap space parked on the bench for a team that should be all in every year and try to maximize their chance to win.

I like Connor Murphy better.

He seems pretty soft.

 

[Laus723]

I don't want to trade him either but the fact is he won't play a game in the playoffs this year or next. That's 4.5 M in cap space parked on the bench for a team that should be all in every year and try to maximize their chance to win.



He seems pretty soft.

We don't know that, and Zito could've moved him before this season and hang onto him. I don't see him moving Knight at all. Bob is late 30s and has a year remaining. Let them push each other. Sure af wouldn't be happy moving Knight for Risto.

 

[10YearsAfter]

I what world Ersson, Kosolov or Fedotov are starting caliber goaltenders

wait and watch

 

[TotalHomer]

We don't know that, and Zito could've moved him before this season and hang onto him. I don't see him moving Knight at all. Bob is late 30s and has a year remaining. Let them push each other. Sure af wouldn't be happy moving Knight for Risto.

Knight wasn't movable in the summer, at least not for any value.

I said it would take retained salary and a 1st to balance out the value, it's not Knight straight up. That 1st can be then used to add more pieces if necessary.

But looks like it's not a fit. I would definitely move Knight for a top4 D RD with term though.

 

[Laus723]

Knight wasn't movable in the summer, at least not for any value.

I said it would take retained salary and a 1st to balance out the value, it's not Knight straight up. That 1st can be then used to add more pieces if necessary.

But looks like it's not a fit. I would definitely move Knight for a top4 D RD with term though.

I'm not remotely interested with how he's been playing. We have Bob coming off soon with his 10 mil salary and Ek as well. Both have modified no move/trade clauses as well. Would rather keep both as well, but I'm not interested in having question marks in net.

 

[Fogelhund]

How does that compare to his teammates? This pic doesn't tell anything without context.

On Ice expected goals 43.2%, Off Ice expected goals 52.4%. On Ice actual goals 43.6%

 

[FlyguyOX]

Do you have to send Knight back? A 1st with 50% retention may be good.

 

[TotalHomer]

Do you have to send Knight back? A 1st with 50% retention may be good.

Pretty much. We have no fat on the roster outside of goaltending, sending anyone else back would just create another hole to fill. No cap space either.

 

[Petes2424]

He’s a player who has all the talent to re-ignite his career under the right situation. Even at 30.

Florida would be one of those teams. They could sell him on becoming their new Montour or OEL last year, and put him in those positions to succeed, while he ends up earning more responsibilities. Not unlike Montour and OEL did in FLA.

He’s the guy who’s gonna have to make that commitment though. If you can’t keep your compete level and attention to detail high, playing under JT, other teams aren’t gonna want to take a chance with him.

He hasn’t been over 30 points in 5-6 years. He does still have the ability to be a 40-50 point dman though. He can generate transition really well. We’ve seen it. That’s what’s frustrating about him. It doesn’t even have to be pure point production. He can open things up for forwards with how he can move the puck in transition. It’s his retrieval skills where you pull your hair out watching him.

If I’m a GM, I go back and watch him during the Flyers meaningful games last year. To be honest, I can’t remember if he stepped up or not. If he did, then other teams might look at him as someone they can tweak a little bit, and get a big reward. Even if it’s just moving the puck quickly and consistently.

The contract is an issue though. It’s gonna stop good teams from taking the chance on him. If they got a 2nd rounder, eating $1-1.5 million, they probably got a good deal.

If he doesn’t get that opportunity and take advantage of it somewhere, he’s gonna end up his entire career, being one of those dmen who plays a lot of minutes on really bad teams, because good teams won’t see him as a dman they’ll ever be able to trust playing important minutes.

Kind of what he’s been over his career.

Bottom line.. It would have to be the right situation, and I’m not sure many teams would even give a 3rd for him, with retention.