News Article: Rick Pracey Hired as Director of Amateur Scouting
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Compared to some teams the Oilers have a lot that gets out. I think that in a hockey nuts town like here with media out the wazoo less is better.
I’d rather not have Gregor scouting for the Oilers thank you very much lol.
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When the f*** did Coffey coach Johnson? Further to that was Coffey even employed by us at the time of the draft?
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I don’t know, just repeating what Stauffer said. Perhaps as a youth but I’m sure he kept his eyes on him. Coffey has been an informal consultant to Holland for years.
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Then Wright went full Wright with the Munzenberger pick after trading down. There's probably beer leaguers in Alberta with more puck skill than him.
A complete waste of a pick on another "safe" guy with a low ceiling.
Wrights tenure as an Oiler:
Broberg over Zegras
Bourgault over Johnston (could have landed Wallstedt?)
Tenure as a Wing:
Zadina over Q.Hughes, Boqvist, Bouchard, Dobson
(pretty much any of the incredibly highly touted defensemen in what was considered a defense-heavy draft class).
Rasmussen over several 20-30 goalscorers: Tippett, Vilardi, Necas and Suzuki
Svechnikov over Eriksson Ek (Boeser, Konecny, and Roslovic, were 3 of the next 5 picks)
Has yet to score a goal in the NCAA in 2 seasons.
Lets hope he can turn that ship around and score many at the NHL level.
Broberg over Zegras
Bourgault over Johnston (could have landed Wallstedt?)
Tenure as a Wing:
Zadina over Q.Hughes, Boqvist, Bouchard, Dobson
(pretty much any of the incredibly highly touted defensemen in what was considered a defense-heavy draft class).
Rasmussen over several 20-30 goalscorers: Tippett, Vilardi, Necas and Suzuki
Svechnikov over Eriksson Ek (Boeser, Konecny, and Roslovic, were 3 of the next 5 picks)
Has yet to score a goal in the NCAA in 2 seasons.
Lets hope he can turn that ship around and score many at the NHL level.
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Team should of probably took Zegras over Broberg. But we dont know if Wright liked Broberg better. GM often overrule scouts with higher picks. Holland really liked Broberg.
I dont mind the Borgault pick. But I think Wallstedt was the right choice for this team.
I would of preferred Reichel over Holloway at the time. And its trending better now as well. Tough injury for Holloway. He looked good draft +1 until injury. Still early obviously.
I'm not sure that trading down and picking Schaeffer was the right decision either. But the pick netted us Ekholm, so that worked out I guess. Too early.
Sometimes the decision comes down to what approach to scouting the director uses. If one candidate uses a process that involves close study, numerous measurements, etc vs one that is more informal and anecdotal in assessing draft choices, that could be the determinant.
I’m not saying this describes our situation, but that kind of difference would be a big factor.
I’m not saying this describes our situation, but that kind of difference would be a big factor.
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It's kind of funny to me that Bourgault is mentioned as the nail in the coffin for him.
If you ignore the trading down like a moron part, XB is probably my favourite 1st round choice Wright has made. He actually has legitimate skill and hockey sense. The other three picks that Wright has made all just scream "he's big and can skate". We're seeing both Holloway and Broberg struggle to get into the lineup because they can't do anything with the puck. I'm glad they moved Schaefer. That was another pick that basically went right down the toilet for the same reason.
If you ignore the trading down like a moron part, XB is probably my favourite 1st round choice Wright has made. He actually has legitimate skill and hockey sense. The other three picks that Wright has made all just scream "he's big and can skate". We're seeing both Holloway and Broberg struggle to get into the lineup because they can't do anything with the puck. I'm glad they moved Schaefer. That was another pick that basically went right down the toilet for the same reason.
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If you want the link to post as an actual Twitter/X post, just change the x.com to twitter.com in your post url. Seems to only be an issue on mobile posts, desktop posts are okay. I think HF needs to add X to their media sources for it to work for both, hopefully they can take care of that soon.
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Sometimes the decision also seems to come down to who the Oilers can most conveniently watch cause they just happen to be in Western Canada.
Not surprised they are only now considering expanding their reach to the OHL.
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FWIW, Coffey's son, Christian, is the same age as Johnston and it's no secret Coffey has been coaching his sons' teams.
I've also heard a rumour that Akey was the pick Staios and Coffey pushed for while Wright wanted some other player. Apparently they had some kind of disagreement.
I'm glad Coffey and Staios won. Akey will be a good player. Quote me on it in a few years
So Bourgault is magically a bust after a good rookie year in the AHL? Dude just stop
I love Bourgault but he was always going to be a complimentary guy. His meh production in the AHL speaks more to the lack of center depth the condors have.
Interesting to hear all about the Johnston love now and not back when he had 12 goals and 30 points before the draft.
Interesting to hear all about the Johnston love now and not back when he had 12 goals and 30 points before the draft.
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Yeah I remember reading some media outlet giving the stars a failing grade for reaching on Johnson lol
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Did the Oilers ever hire that scout they were rumoured to be looking for? If not, they might want to check out this thread
For those who look only stats I can see how they can be so fooled. Vermont is a low rate school for ability to attract players and have low low scoring from everyone. The talent is still there Love the Muzenberger pick. Wjc player...bug, mean, freight train.
Agree. After number 12, besides Johnson Borgault is the best player in the draft. Many teams missed out on Johnson because he never played that year.
We cant have zero offense players.
Tried that. Didn't work.
No more players with zero goals.
I’m just repeating what Stauffer said for the consumption of the forum. I’m neither here nor there on XB nor have I posted any personal opinion of him. Hope he pans out but Stauffer said Coffey wanted Wyatt Johnson and Wright went with XB after passing Wallsted. Call Stauffer and shit on him not me.
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