Rumor: RHD Targets to play with Quinn Hughes?

[pitseleh]

The best case scenario at this stage seems to be someoke like Peeke to play with Hughes.

If they can pull something like that off, maybe mid-season they can trade Myers and bring in Bear and run more balanced pairings.

It’s weird to me that they haven’t tried Hughes with more partners in the preseason. Part of the benefit of having a big minute defender like Hughes is you can have a cheap scrub as one of your top 6 and shelter them by double shifting your #1 guy, but they are playing their scrub next to their #1 guy.

 

[krutovsdonut]

I doubt Petrovic would be the target but the basic idea of having a guy play 3rd pairing minutes next to Hughes is a solid plan until a more permanent solution can be found. Management probably hoped Juulsen would be able to handle that role but he's been pretty bad in training camp. That's why a lot of people on this board have been suggesting Andrew Peeke. Good stay-at-home defender that wouldn't actually be asked to do a lot other than defend the rush and get Hughes the puck.

I think another worry about grabbing a guy off waivers that may not be able to hack-it is that if they waive them again to send to Abbotsford, then that adds to the already crowded defence down there.

i was thinking big basically free veteran dman who can be waived if it does not work. peeke is fine in theory but won't be free and unless cbj actually wants beauvillier or garland it is a non-starter due to cap.

petrovic is probably not able to manage the nhl pace at all anymore but as i recall he was smart enough but too slow, so he's the kind of older fringe guy i'd evaluate carefully. my assumption is hughes can play a simple master-blaster system with the right slow but canny big veteran guy who knows his role. tougher ask for him to babysit a young guy like that.

i will say that if cbj picks up garland or hoglander, surely justin danforth comes back. 1 way million dollar deal.

 

[Chairman Maouth]

I figured this could use its own thread, considering how significant of a hole that this has turned out to be.

Quinn Hughes absolutely needs to find somebody to play with him on the right side, Mcward unfortunately is not ready quite yet.

I do believe they will shop that first round draft pick to fix the solution, I’m looking mostly at the Columbus blue jackets, especially if we could dump some cap in the process.

It’s not ideal, but just have a feeling.

What do you think they should do, who do you guys think they should target?

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Also to add, They are looking.

The issue I have with that is -- Dhaliwal is full of shit more often than he's not.

 

[krutovsdonut]

The issue I have with that is -- Dhaliwal is full of shit more often than he's not.

if you just put "an agent says" in front of all dhaliwal statements, and then ask yourself which agent says it and why it is in the interests of an agent to say that, it helps to sift the bullshit from the useful news.

i should add that i respect dhaliwal and the way he has carved out a niche without being a team lapdog, but just like everyone else he has to keep his sources happy.

 

[TruGr1t]

According to Seravalli, sounds like the Canucks are more looking for salary flexibility in a deal more than adding NHLers, so maybe not so likely anything major happens outside of ditching Garland or something.

"Trying to move a contract or two."

 

[Vector]

According to Seravalli, sounds like the Canucks are more looking for salary flexibility in a deal more than adding NHLers, so maybe not so likely anything major happens outside of ditching Garland or something.

"Trying to move a contract or two."

Where did he say this?

 

[TruGr1t]

Where did he say this?

 

[Vector]

I’ve got to remember to incorporate Seravalli on S&P in my recap.

Will be very interesting if they get anything done on the RD front and manage to get a little bit more flexibility. They can handle a cap-neutral trade and have some salary matching pieces as well.

 

[TruGr1t]

I’ve got to remember to incorporate Seravalli on S&P in my recap.

Will be very interesting if they get anything done on the RD front and manage to get a little bit more flexibility. They can handle a cap-neutral trade and have some salary matching pieces as well.

It's certainly basically fourth-party information there, but the way he made it sound they want flexibility, which likely means an improve cap situation and not a lot of salary coming back in any deal.

 

[Vector]

It's certainly basically fourth-party information there, but the way he made it sound they want flexibility, which likely means an improve cap situation and not a lot of salary coming back in any deal.

The thing with the Canucks cap situation is that a lot rests on Mikheyev. If he only needs a couple of games, is good to go, or LTIR they can dress a full roster. If he’s only on IR, then they can’t dress a full roster.

 

[Chairman Maouth]

if you just put "an agent says" in front of all dhaliwal statements, and then ask yourself which agent says it and why it is in the interests of an agent to say that, it helps to sift the bullshit from the useful news.

i should add that i respect dhaliwal and the way he has carved out a niche without being a team lapdog, but just like everyone else he has to keep his sources happy.

He voices his opinion as fact far too much for my liking. Sekeres does the same thing, but granted, Sekeres is worse.

 

[David71]

Pretty much the only way to make it work. I could actually see a rather big deal of Roslovic & Peeke for Beauvillier & Hoglander with some retention on Roslovic and a pick or prospect going from the Canucks. Roslovic is also a scratch, Canucks called about him last summer, and the Blue Jackets haven’t been happy with him.

ladies and gentleman we have a match. wouldnt be surprised if both parties are working on this deal and finding ways to make the salaries work. garland+hoglander for roslovic/peeke+something else.

 

[lawrence]

Has Chris tanev demanded a trade yet?

 

[oceanchild]

I feel like it’s possible the bruins have a tough year. They lost a ton of depth, I also feel like
Brandon Carlo would be a nice grab and a good
Partner for Hughes.

I’m also wondering with RHD costing a premium, if we might see a stop gap LHD and Soucey moved to the right side.

 

[VanJack]

Canucks Army pointing out that a hockey trade between the Canucks and the Blue Jackets makes too much sense, for there not to be discussions at the very least.

Jackets have four right-shot d-men on the roster, and can't protect or play all of them.. But after Laine and Johnny Hockey, their scoring depth falls off a cliff. The Canucks have an abundance of scoring wingers, albeit guys who are a little overpaid.

So something around either Garland or Beauvillier and a draft prick for one of the Jackets right-shot d-men might get it down.

 

[Vector]

Canucks Army pointing out that a hockey trade between the Canucks and the Blue Jackets makes too much sense, for there not to be discussions at the very least.

Jackets have four right-shot d-men on the roster, and can't protect or play all of them.. But after Laine and Johnny Hockey, their scoring depth falls off a cliff. The Canucks have an abundance of scoring wingers, albeit guys who are a little overpaid.

So something around either Garland or Beauvillier and a draft prick for one of the Jackets right-shot d-men might get it down.

Weird how no one has brought this up here and there’s no discussion…

Speaking of Peeke, here's the Blue Jackets final pre-season game roster.



No Peeke. No Boqvist. Blue Jackets are one of the few teams with actual cap space so they can afford to scratch both but do they really want to leave a combined 5.35m in the pressbox? They don't really have room for a Hoglander and Canucks couldn't fit in Peeke without moving out a higher-priced contract.

I'm almost expecting Peeke to be a Canuck this point. Question is how they'd make salaries work. You'd assume Beauvillier with retention?

Pretty much the only way to make it work. I could actually see a rather big deal of Roslovic & Peeke for Beauvillier & Hoglander with some retention on Roslovic and a pick or prospect going from the Canucks. Roslovic is also a scratch, Canucks called about him last summer, and the Blue Jackets haven’t been happy with him.

 

[andora]

Harsh

 

[oceanchild]

Just wanted to point out that Peeke was beaten out (why he is available) by Gunderbranson….

Not saying Columbus isn’t a good trading partner (especially if they take Garland)

 

[Vector]

Just wanted to point out that Peeke was beaten out (why he is available) by Gunderbranson….

Not saying Columbus isn’t a good trading partner (especially if they take Garland)

Money might have something to do with it.

 

[4th line culture]

Weird how no one has brought this up here and there’s no discussion…

Can all of @VanJack Posts be put in a thread so it can be read like the blog that it is?

 

[Peen]

Just wanted to point out that Peeke was beaten out (why he is available) by Gunderbranson….

Not saying Columbus isn’t a good trading partner (especially if they take Garland)

Gudbranson also played above guys like Stanton, Biega here undeservedly and contributed to the downfall of a guy like Hutton who should have developed into a solid #4…

because of his salary.

My guess with the whole Peeke thing would be Garland.

Him going to Pettersson’s line last game was interesting to me. At least instead of Beauvillier.

 

[Kryten]

Can all of @VanJack Posts be put in a thread so it can be read like the blog that it is?

Has anyone ever received a “like” from VJ or is the software unable to get passed that human function

 

[Vector]

Dorofeyev, Pachal, Amadio, and Cotter all played in the Golden Knights final exhibition game. Would be surprised if any of them are waived tomorrow.

 

[credulous]

i'm a longtime peeke hater. i think he gets so many minutes because columbus have zero alternatives. his competition has been marcus bjork, gudbranson, bean, boqvist and dean kukan. he wasn't even the first choice in that group most of the time. ethan bear would have played 30 minutes a night on those teams

roslovic i'm skeptical about too. he puts up okay points but he's played a ton of minutes with top players. his production is really bad from that lens and he's never been even half decent defensively

 

[biturbo19]

i'm a longtime peeke hater. i think he gets so many minutes because columbus have zero alternatives. his competition has been marcus bjork, gudbranson, bean, boqvist and dean kukan. he wasn't even the first choice in that group most of the time. ethan bear would have played 30 minutes a night on those teams

roslovic i'm skeptical about too. he puts up okay points but he's played a ton of minutes with top players. his production is really bad from that lens and he's never been even half decent defensively

I'm not exactly a huge fan of Peeke either, but he seems like a really strange player to be a "hater" of. Like he's just a pretty unremarkable defensive-oriented #4/5D. Occasionally some folks have maybe overhyped his "potential upside". But he seems generally pretty fine for what he is. Just...pressed into minutes he's not exactly cut out for without better support.

I don't think it's really any different from Ethan Bear. Similar criticism could be made of him. He's only ever played real minutes because he was in Edmonton whose blueline was in shambles, and then later with the Canucks who again...had him playing those minutes because like CBJ, they just did not have any better options.

So i'm not sure it's really fair to say Bear would've played 30 minutes a night on those CBJ teams. Especially not in the years where Peeke looked more promising when the Jackets actually had some more reasonable defensive depth.


I don't know that Peeke is the Silver Bullet some are making him out to be. But he's darn sure quite a bit better than McWard or Juulsen. I don't think that's even remotely debatable. Whether the price to acquire him makes sense...well...that depends on what the price is, and what kind of cap element is involved in making that work. But as a player, he'd be a clear and immediate upgrade. A significant one.