Speculation: Report: Maple Leafs' Trade Offer For Flames' Goaltender Jacob Markstrom Was 'Comparable' to Deal Executed With Devils

[Leaf Fans]

The Brad Treliving 'almost' deals file is really getting to be a thick one.

Yup, there are a lot of rumours.

 

[Ford Prefect]

https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/toronto-maple-leafs/latest-news/report-maple-leafs-trade-offer-for-flames-goaltender-jacob-markstrom-was-comparable-to-deal-executed-with-devils

Thing is that comparable doesn't beat another deal. Comperable just means some like it more, others might like it less. And it's possible that Calgary liked it less. Hence the deal with NJ.

 

[Oddbob]

What young Leaf blueliner is in the Bahl category? Toronto doesn't have lot of good young defenders.

 

[Rowlet]

like I said that excuse doesn't fly because they are retaining for 2 years on Markstrom

Sure, but they were able to make a Zadorov trade without continuing to pay for him, which I'm sure the management wanted.

 

[Mosby]

Does Treliving not hire pro scouts? Why is he always so fixated on bringing in his former players? How about come up with a fresh idea for a change.

 

[Legion34]

Comparable to who?
Calgary could simply have preferred Bahl to whomever leafs were offering?

 

[DFF]

like I said that excuse doesn't fly because they are retaining for 2 years on Markstrom

You can only retain so many , I think 3 per year. He was saving them for bigger deals with Hanifin, Lindholm, Tanev and possibly Markstrom.

Anyway, Treliving was being cheap then complained about it. That’s how he operates.

 

[viper0220]

What young Leaf blueliner is in the Bahl category? Toronto doesn't have lot of good young defenders.

You can have Bahl.

 

[Oddbob]

You can have Bahl.

What do you mean I can have?

 

[viper0220]

What do you mean I can have?

If you want a D, you can have Bahl.

 

[Oddbob]

If you want a D, you can have Bahl.

Trade didn't involve a team I am a fan of, so the comment makes no sense.

 

[HarrySPlinkett]

https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/toronto-maple-leafs/latest-news/report-maple-leafs-trade-offer-for-flames-goaltender-jacob-markstrom-was-comparable-to-deal-executed-with-devils

I’m sure it was.

Also, GFY, Tre.

 

[CF84]

wonder how many of the Leaf posters would have changed there tune if they ended up with Markstrom.

Sure, not getting Markstrom is a "blessing in disguise."

That's just how people are.

Markstrom traded to the Leafs: "He's going to be an amazing asset for our organization and we will probably win the cup." "I'm so happy!!!!" "I can't wait until the season begins!"

Same person's opinion on Markstrom traded to any other team than the Leafs: He wouldn't make much of a difference to our team and he's old....pass, and I'm glad we didn't give up that return for trash." "Markstrom sucks! Glad it wasn't us."

Opinions aren't worth much until proven with history.

 

[Leaf Fans]

That's just how people are.

Markstrom traded to the Leafs: "He's going to be an amazing asset for our organization and we will probably win the cup." "I'm so happy!!!!" "I can't wait until the season begins!"

Same person's opinion on Markstrom traded to any other team than the Leafs: He wouldn't make much of a difference to our team and he's old....pass, and I'm glad we didn't give up that return for trash." "Markstrom sucks! Glad it wasn't us."

Opinions aren't worth much until proven with history.

Sure, if you are referring to the opinions of two different Leaf fans. You can easily change teams and show contrasts in the opinions of those fans too.

 

[unicornBLOOD]

There was a rumour out there that EDM offered more for Tanev at the deadline than DAL did, but CGY accepted less from DAL, rather than deal with EDM. If that's true, it's just bad business, CGY isn't in WIN NOW mode imo, they are going to try and rebuild and be ready for when their new building is ready in 3 or 4 years. You should be trying to maximize every deal, regardless of who the trade partner is. If they took less from NJ, just to avoid dealing with TOR, that would bad business as well. But, obviously these are all just speculation, no proof, so who really knows the truth? not me.

I do think Markstrom would of been a solid fit in TOR, and a good mentor for Woll. Oh well, that door is closed now.

 

[SensontheRush]

Technically everything is comparable

 

[TBF1972]

Toronto doesn't have their 2025 1st. So Calgary passed on their 2024 1st hoping NJ will finish notably worse than that?

or markstrom wasn't willing to waive for toronto

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

What young Leaf blueliner is in the Bahl category? Toronto doesn't have lot of good young defenders.

Timothy Liljegren

 

[Space umpire]

idk why Trevling is still wasting time calling Calgary. They aren't trading anyone to him. It's legit a waste of his time to be calling them. Calgary's owner legit prob is telling Conroy to lead him on for weeks and then reject his offers to f*** with him.

“Legit prob”

Both ends of the spectrum there.
Are you saying it’s true and you made it up?

 

[Space umpire]

wonder how many of the Leaf posters would have changed there tune if they ended up with Markstrom.

Sure, not getting Markstrom is a "blessing in disguise."

They prefer to claim an injury prone mid level guy who has played very few games putting up Campbell like numbers is their savior.

 

[FLAMESFAN]

wonder how many of the Leaf posters would have changed there tune if they ended up with Markstrom.

Sure, not getting Markstrom is a "blessing in disguise."

Judging by how quickly you changed your tune, I'd say quite a few.

 

[Paper]

I know my point is it makes no sense that they wouldn't retain on Zadorov who was up at seasons end.

But will retain on Markstrom who is up 2026 I believe

Rumour was the original NJ deal was squashed as a result of the Flames refusing to retain.

Trade grades: Analyzing Markstrom deal, Dubois stunner

With the Stanley Cup on another two-day hiatus, the NHL had itself a mini trade deadline on Wednesday when a pair of blockbuster trades set the hockey world ablaze out of nowhere.First, the New Jersey Devils and Calgary Flames finally agreed on a deal involving Jacob Markstrom. Then, the Los...

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The Flames and Devils negotiated a Markstrom deal at this year's deadline, but it reportedly fell apart over salary retention.

It appears there was a change in circumstances, which could be a combination of Markstrom wanting to get the f*** out after the gongshow and the actual trades that happened.

Zadorov was traded early. The Flames were still looking to trade at least Lindholm, Markstrom, Hanifin and Tanev. They would retain with Tanev and Hanifin. So if they did retain on Zadorov in November, you can see how it had the potential to f*** up the rest of the trades (let's say they were willing to make this trade at the deadline, they wouldn't have even been able to since Zadorov, Hanifin and Tanev were already retained).

Zadorov was the least value-wise, plus he wanted out, but retaining on him and potentially handcuffing them on the actual important trades would have been the biggest blunder the Flames made since their last biggest blunder which I assumed happened like a day earlier.

 

[HuGort]

https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/toronto-maple-leafs/latest-news/report-maple-leafs-trade-offer-for-flames-goaltender-jacob-markstrom-was-comparable-to-deal-executed-with-devils

Probably was but history with Calgary swayed them to Jersey

 

[zenator]

I'd rather have New Jersey's 1st round pick than Toronto's. Toronto has a much better chance of finishing higher in the standings. There is one caveat, New Jersey has a better chance of going to the Semi-finals in the playoffs, which would knock the pick down to 29-32, however, I don't think they have a great chance of advancing that far, maybe 1%, but Toronto is probably 0.001%.

Also, Calgary isn't going to help their ex-GM Treliving complete a trade, unless the offer is substantially higher.

 

[Gritty]

There was a rumour out there that EDM offered more for Tanev at the deadline than DAL did, but CGY accepted less from DAL, rather than deal with EDM. If that's true, it's just bad business, CGY isn't in WIN NOW mode imo, they are going to try and rebuild and be ready for when their new building is ready in 3 or 4 years. You should be trying to maximize every deal, regardless of who the trade partner is. If they took less from NJ, just to avoid dealing with TOR, that would bad business as well. But, obviously these are all just speculation, no proof, so who really knows the truth? not me.

I do think Markstrom would of been a solid fit in TOR, and a good mentor for Woll. Oh well, that door is closed now.

Conroy addressed this rumour in an interview the other day.

It sounded like there was a first on the table but the team kept saying “wait a week… wait another couple days… we need more time” and eventually went with the Dallas package. You can’t be left at the alter waiting on a team. Both Dallas and presumably Edmonton could have moved in different directions and you’re left with a lesser return (or nothing)