Report: Latvian hockey player Pavlovs fails doping test - Mod warning post #14

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This is what happened in 1976:



http://internationalhockeylegends.blogspot.com/2010/12/frantisek-pospisil.html

Pospisil was a much more important player than Pavlovs (he was captain of the team and considered a star in Europe at the time). But based on precedent, it seems like the IOC could force Latvia to retroactively forfeit every game it played with Pavlovs in the lineup.

I hope it doesn't come to that. This feels like an honest mistake and it would be ludicrous to suggest that the Latvian team gained any real advantage. Let's hope common sense prevails.
 
Well, the bottom line is that this 'drug' is quite commonly used in food supplements and if you're one of those guys who work out in the gym 2 times a day, you've probably used it yourself.

Still, this is quite unprofessional on his part. Hopefully this won't end his career and he'll find a decent team in North America.

He's an NHL-tier 4th-liner, btw (in case some NHL scout is reading this). :naughty:
 
No, it doesn't.

well how many does it take? Or is it case by case?

You would have to imagine the Americans would be pretty outraged if news came out that Price was doping. It wouldn't really be fair to them as he played a pretty key role in Canada's win.

But it wouldn't really be fair to the rest of the team if 1 insignificant player doped and got all of them stripped of a medal if say a 4th liner who played 2 minutes and didn't do anything useful had doped.

So I imagine case by case would be the best option
 
Yup, now you guys have a legit excuse why you barely won against Latvia - a Latvian 3rd/4th liner used illegal substances. :)

What? Old news and frankly no ones gives a damn about that game. We're busy trying to win a gold medal here.
 
Why do supplements have such ridiculous names? "Hemo Rage Black"

Everybody knows that the best pre-work out supplements have names that just sound silly/awesome. The names of the ingredients should also have long names that doesn't really say anything, like Melthylhexaneamine. The more difficult an ingredient is to pronounce or spell, the more effective it is. That's just science.
 
not a performance enhancer maybe gave him a lil more energy but w/e no big deal to me it was the goalie who kept them in the game not one guy on ped's im still happy for them and how they played.
 
Yup, now you guys have a legit excuse why you barely won against Latvia - a Latvian 3rd/4th liner used illegal substances. :)

Hey it's no secret your goalie played the game of his life, the skaters were about as good as we expected...AHL level.
 
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Look, what I saying is, if Pavlovs was drooling after the raging high of methylhexaneamine before any of Latvia's hockey games, how can I trust that one of the biathletes wasn't tripping on Fluoxymesterone? Or worse, a Skeleton racer kissing the sky on Tetrahydrogestrinone?
 
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Sorry to hear this as Latvia was a true feel good story. But it doesn't sound like it really would give much of a boost and also as though it may have been a mistake.
 
Sorry to hear this as Latvia was a true feel good story. But it doesn't sound like it really would give much of a boost and also as though it may have been a mistake.
Latvia had only one NHL-player so their boost was probably smaller than everyone else in the top-8.
 
Very embarrassing for Latvia and sad to see that this will stain the accomplishment their hockey team managed in Sochi.
 
I didn't create this thread as an excuse for why Canada only beat Latvia by a goal.:laugh:

I really like the Latvian team, but came across this story and noticed there wasn't a thread on it yet. It's a shame because no matter how innocent Pavlovs may have been- at the end of the day it's a wart on the team.

A real Debbie Downer of a story.

Why do supplements have such ridiculous names? "Hemo Rage Black"

Probably Trademarks.

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Very embarrassing for Latvia and sad to see that this will stain the accomplishment of their hockey team in Sotchi.

Is it embarrassing also for Detroit Red Wings, New York Rangers, Toronto Maple Leafs, Ottawa Senators, Los Angeles Kings, Vancouver Canucks etc...

Or are you so unsuspecting to think that franchises who pay millions to their players wouldn't use stimulants and restorative-drugs to keep their "investments" ok?

Testing in the NHL is a joke and and I'd be ashamed as an NHL player if this one Latvian has to take a blame for everyone.
 
Is it embarrassing also for Detroit Red Wings, New York Rangers, Toronto Maple Leafs, Ottawa Senators, Los Angeles Kings, Vancouver Canucks etc...

Or are you so unsuspecting to think that franchises who pay millions to their players wouldn't use stimulants and restorative-drugs to keep their "investments" ok?

Testing in the NHL is a joke and and I'd be ashamed as an NHL player if this one Latvian has to take a blame for everyone.

You think he was the only player tested in Sochi? If it's not allowed in the olympics, I'm sure there's a reason. Whatever happends in the NHL and the status of their testing is a different discussion.
 
Is it embarrassing also for Detroit Red Wings, New York Rangers, Toronto Maple Leafs, Ottawa Senators, Los Angeles Kings, Vancouver Canucks etc...

Or are you so unsuspecting to think that franchises who pay millions to their players wouldn't use stimulants and restorative-drugs to keep their "investments" ok?

Testing in the NHL is a joke and and I'd be ashamed as an NHL player if this one Latvian has to take a blame for everyone.

What would be good is a system that could theoretically test all athletes for drugs, regardless of what nation they are from. I think the IOC's current policy of only testing Latvian hockey players for banned substances is ridiculous. If that were somehow changed, it could substantiate some people's repetitive allegations about banned substances being used by other Olympic hockey athletes. :sarcasm:
 
I've gotta be honest, this just soils the entire Olympics for me.

I'd go one step further and state that this pretty much puts a giant question mark on the validity of the entire tournament....and any medals won now have a gigantic * attached to them.:phew:
 
You think he was the only player tested in Sochi? If it's not allowed in the olympics, I'm sure there's a reason. Whatever happends in the NHL and the status of their testing is a different discussion.

No, he wasn't the only one tested.

NHLPA and NHL wouldn't have let their players to participate without the knowledge of what is being tested.

Don't you see what's the real reason for the owners and the NHL is not to send their players from the "NHL-bubble"? The doping-scandal and what that might do the the sport. And everyone knows that at least stimulants and restorative "every-day" drugs are used in the NHL/AHL (probably in the KHL as well).
 
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Why do supplements have such ridiculous names? "Hemo Rage Black"

Marketing. If energy drinks sold almost exclusively to students for studying can have ridiculous "extreme" sounding names, surely products intended for actual workouts can.

Also, I read that as "Homo Rage Black" a few times.
 

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