Report: Latvian hockey player Pavlovs fails doping test - Mod warning post #14

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Yup, now you guys have a legit excuse why you barely won against Latvia - a Latvian 3rd/4th liner used illegal substances. :)
 
Yup, now you guys have a legit excuse why you barely won against Latvia - a Latvian 3rd/4th liner used illegal substances. :)
If you watched the game you would know the score was a poor reflection of how close the game was. Just like the against the US, Canada dominated that entire game.
 
If you watched the game you would know the score was a poor reflection of how close the game was. Just like the against the US, Canada dominated that entire game.
Sorry, I have no idea what's your point.
 
Methylhexaneamine – What is it and what does it do?

Methylhexaneamine is a stimulant that has moved up the banned list in the WADA. It is used mainly as a Fat Metaboliser/ Fat Burner. It was first created to be used as a Nasal Decongestant, but its fat Burning potential was discovered and soon found its way into many brand name supplements.

Methylhexaneamine has many different variants; Methylhexaneamine; Methylhexanamine; DMAA (dimethylamylamine); Geranamine; Forthane; Forthan; Floradrene; 2-hexanamine, 4-methyl-; 2-hexanamine, 4-methyl- (9CI); 4-methyl-2-hexanamine; 1,3-dimethylamylamine; 4-Methylhexan-2-amine; 1,3-dimethylpentylamine; 2-amino-4-methylhexane; Pentylamine, 1, 3-dimethyl. These different names and variants must be looked for if you are at risk of being tested for your sport as they will all get you a ban. The frightening thing is, is that supplement companies don’t always name everything in the box. Sometimes they will name just what they need to name to sell the product. This is when they become dangerous. Stimulants can be added through cross-contamination in the manufacturing process. It may be added to the supplement for its affects, but deliberately left off of the ingredient list for a variety of different reasons.

Methylhexanamine is chemically related to amphetamines, however, the effects of it are only slightly higher than having a cup of coffee. It is not a strong, long lasting stimulant. It works with others to create a metabolic effect in the body. Its effects have also been questioned with a number of adverse events and at least 5 deaths associated with products containing Methylhexaneamine – there is no medical link between Methylhexaneamine and the deaths but it is believed that the fact that it was found in the blood stream of the people who died is “an important factorâ€.

Supplements containing Melthylhexaneamine include:

· Jack3d – USPLabs
· OxyELITE pro – USPLabs
· Hemo Rage Black Ultra Concentrate – Nutrex
· Rezolution – LG Science
 
Before start screaming steroids and such...

All four cases involve stimulants that can be found in food supplements. They are all classified as a "specified stimulant" on the World Anti-Doping Agency's prohibited list. Specified substances are considered more susceptible to inadvertent use and can carry reduced penalties.

He said he was instructed by a team doctor to take the food supplements.
 
Btw, WADA has no authority over North American hockey leagues, so technically it's not forbidden to use it in North America.

Pavlovs is also free to play in ECHL/AHL/NHL/etc.
 
This thread isn't for discussing Lance Armstrong, or Carl Lewis, or anyone from years past. It's about one Latvian player who, unfortunately, is reported to have tested positive for a banned substance. Discuss him and, if you wish, the wider implications of testing on Olympic players. However, that is not free reign to throw around potentially libelous statements about other players. If you cannot discuss the topic in a civil manner, you will be removed.
 
Btw, WADA has no authority over North American hockey leagues, so technically it's not forbidden to use it in North America.

Pavlovs is also free to play in ECHL/AHL/NHL/etc.

Does it hold any implications for his playing in the KHL?
 
Before start screaming steroids and such...



He said he was instructed by a team doctor to take the food supplements.

I believe he was specially trained to associate the sound of a goal horn with the food supplement, and can hardly be blamed for the whole situation.
 
Before start screaming steroids and such...



He said he was instructed by a team doctor to take the food supplements.

I wouldn't be surprised if he was telling the truth, there really isn't much reason to take anything bad.
I'd assume that he understands he'd be tested, and while athletes sometimes try to get by the system in this particular case I can't see why he would.
Its probably just an honest mistake, hopefully won't turn into anything serious.
 
Does it hold any implications for his playing in the KHL?
Yup, KHL and the European pro leagues are under the jurisdiction of IIHF. He's also banned from the national team, World Champs, etc.

Obviously, it is possible that his club team used a some sort of a supplement that contained the substance, but it wasn't done on purpose. But it's going to be really hard to prove it. :)

The frightening thing is, is that supplement companies don’t always name everything in the box. Sometimes they will name just what they need to name to sell the product. This is when they become dangerous. Stimulants can be added through cross-contamination in the manufacturing process.

He can be disqualified for up to 2 years (from IIHF competitions).
 
Does having 1 player that failed a test negate the results of the team?

Like obviously say in Cross Country is someone dopes and wins gold they have their medal stripped, what happens in a team event, can 1 4th liner doping automatically strip the team of its results?

If yes how is this fair to the Swiss? Not saying they'd beat Latvia if this 1 player on Latvia was clean, but if they did strip Latvia of their result, technically that means the Swiss didn't lose to them and thus deserve a QF match against Canada.
 
Does having 1 player that failed a test negate the results of the team?

Like obviously say in Cross Country is someone dopes and wins gold they have their medal stripped, what happens in a team event, can 1 4th liner doping automatically strip the team of its results?

If yes how is this fair to the Swiss? Not saying they'd beat Latvia if this 1 player on Latvia was clean, but if they did strip Latvia of their result, technically that means the Swiss didn't lose to them and thus deserve a QF match against Canada.

This is what happened in 1976:

Controversy swirled around Pospisil at the 1976 Olympics when drug testing found him guilty of using the banned substance codeine. Pospisil admitted he was taking codeine in order to fight off a flu that had spread through the Olympic village. As a result of the failed test, Czechoslovakia had to forfeit their game against Poland, rescinding the 7-1 victory they achieved earlier in the night. The forfeit cost the Czechoslovaks any hope of the gold medal. Pospisil was allowed to continue playing.

http://internationalhockeylegends.blogspot.com/2010/12/frantisek-pospisil.html

Pospisil was a much more important player than Pavlovs (he was captain of the team and considered a star in Europe at the time). But based on precedent, it seems like the IOC could force Latvia to retroactively forfeit every game it played with Pavlovs in the lineup.
 
Supplements containing Melthylhexaneamine include:

· Jack3d – USPLabs
· OxyELITE pro – USPLabs
· Hemo Rage Black Ultra Concentrate – Nutrex
· Rezolution – LG Science

Why do supplements have such ridiculous names? "Hemo Rage Black"
 
I believe he was specially trained to associate the sound of a goal horn with the food supplement, and can hardly be blamed for the whole situation.

Not many people will get this reference but I love it. +10 points to gryffindor.
 

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